**KAZ** 0 Posted April 9, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Here are some very young baby chicks. I just want to do a series of photos showing that budgies can be easily sexed at a younger age in the nestbox. I am well able to identify the sex of a chick at 5 days of age now in most cases. But here to show you what to look for is some photos. See the largest chick in the nestbox and only just old enough to be getting its first pin feathers....its a HEN chick. The smaller chick at the front is a boy. I will look for more photos and add to this topic. :budgiedance: This chick is a female Chick in the middle of this huddle is a boy Female Edited April 9, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
bird_paradise 0 Posted April 9, 2009 Member ID: 4,298 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 95 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 804 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,615 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2010 Birthday: 09/11/1994 Share Posted April 9, 2009 cool! Thanks Kaz! Link to comment
renee 0 Posted April 9, 2009 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Excellent post Kaz! Please post more pics with reasons for the sexing in relation to the ceres. Am I correct in assuming that hens have more bulbous ceres? Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted April 9, 2009 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.74 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted April 9, 2009 the hens cere looks a bit paler in all those photo's is that how you can tell? Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted April 9, 2009 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Very interesting. Kaz give some reasons for the decisions please. I can't tell at such a young age. :budgiedance: I would agree that the one in the middle continues to develop and the cere stays like this, that it is a cock bird. But why do you think the others are hens? I find this fasinating... Link to comment
LeanneR 0 Posted April 9, 2009 Member ID: 4,950 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 72 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 480 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 9, 2012 Birthday: 04/04/1978 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Although I am a complete novice at this, I think I can see a pattern happening here. The chicks that Kaz is saying are hens have a cere that is whiteish looking and perhaps slightly more bulbish and the chicks that she is saying are cocks, have ceres that are quite pink. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment
Emma 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Member ID: 5,083 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 168 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2009 Birthday: 30/05/1979 Share Posted April 10, 2009 That was my guess too - but before I read any captions! What a champion! (or maybe just a fluke...) :budgiedance: Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I find it more accurate to tell the gender at this young age. I start to get confused as they get older. Link to comment
Pearce 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Member ID: 4,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,475 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,280 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7, 2011 Birthday: 21/04/1991 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I'm getting better at sexing at a young age. Heaps of practise. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 Although I am a complete novice at this, I think I can see a pattern happening here. The chicks that Kaz is saying are hens have a cere that is whiteish looking and perhaps slightly more bulbish and the chicks that she is saying are cocks, have ceres that are quite pink. Correct me if I'm wrong.Pretty much IT in a nutshell. Females even at five days show the whitish cere and males a very bright pink. I dont actually go off the shape at all.............I will do more photos later today.I find it more accurate to tell the gender at this young age. I start to get confused as they get older.I find, if you pick the sex between 5 and ten days and write it down, you are 99.9% spot on. Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted April 10, 2009 You've given me something to look for this season I love a challenge. Link to comment
Emma 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Member ID: 5,083 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 168 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2009 Birthday: 30/05/1979 Share Posted April 10, 2009 This is great information for me before I get started Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) Maybe because I work from home and have more easy access all hours of the day to the birds...it has made me notice the tiny things, and I find now...sexing a budgie baby at 5 days is more accurate than later....if I remember to write the sex down Edited April 10, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
LeanneR 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Member ID: 4,950 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 72 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 480 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 9, 2012 Birthday: 04/04/1978 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) This is great information for me before I get started Me too Emma. "Pretty much IT in a nutshell. Females even at five days show the whitish cere and males a very bright pink." :hooray: :bliss: :yes: Yay, go me!!! I can't believe I got something right...with budgies, I mean. Edited April 10, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
splat 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted April 10, 2009 That's COOL Kaz can see what you are talking about , so will take more notice this season and see how acute I am Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 11, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 More budgie baby sexing photos...........taken today. Unfortunately due to my ratio of hen chicks being hatched I only get one in ten being male. female female female female male female Link to comment
Jodie 0 Posted April 11, 2009 Member ID: 4,257 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 981 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,495 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 7, 2014 Birthday: 28/07/1993 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I can already see a difference in the cere color and the chicks are 1 day old, but I know they could change. But one's cere is the same color as it's skin and the other more white...I know I could still be wrong but I though I should mension it Link to comment
Cory 0 Posted April 11, 2009 Member ID: 5,098 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 293 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,030 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 16, 2011 Birthday: 23/04/1989 Share Posted April 11, 2009 wow thanks KAZ! this is very helpful Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 12, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 I can already see a difference in the cere color and the chicks are 1 day old, but I know they could change. But one's cere is the same color as it's skin and the other more white...I know I could still be wrong but I though I should mension it Very observant Jodie...you are already noticing the differences and seem to have worked it out :hb: Link to comment
krosp 0 Posted April 12, 2009 Member ID: 4,621 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 95 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 777 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,955 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 10, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I used to get my babies wrong a lot, because I would wait until I could see whether there was blue or not and I just tried to guess if the blue was close enough to the nostrils, and if there was a lot of blue on the cere I assumed it was a boy. When the penny finally dropped that baby boys are PINK and girls are white/blue then it became a lot more accurate. If I'm in doubt (with the varieties that are easy to sex that is), I assume it's a hen, because they can look quite blue at times, but boys' are usually quite obviously darker and fleshier coloured. I can see the differences in those young ones too. Wish I'd known this when I was actually breeding lol would've saved a lot of my budgies from being named for the wrong gender! Link to comment
macka 0 Posted April 12, 2009 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I will give you a 10/10 Kaz. Link to comment
SJW 0 Posted April 15, 2009 Member ID: 3,791 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 143 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 840 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 31/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 13, 2014 Birthday: 24/08/1976 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I will give you a 10/10 Kaz. :rofl: I'll go 11/10! Great post Kaz. :hi: I really can't wait for chicks now so that I can apply this! Link to comment
SJW 0 Posted April 16, 2009 Member ID: 3,791 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 143 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 840 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 31/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 13, 2014 Birthday: 24/08/1976 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Just had a further thought on this topic (sorry for double posting)...... Does this method work for the ino varieties in the nestbox? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) Just had a further thought on this topic (sorry for double posting)...... Does this method work for the ino varieties in the nestbox? Ino is sex linked so pretty easy to work out what sexes you will have, but in saying that the ino hens have white ceres too even at the younger age. The way to spot an ino in a nestbox is by the red eyes which you see from day one. Edited April 17, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 21, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 Three day old baby.................... note also it still has its egg tooth on top of its top beak Sex ? Hen. Can you see it ? Link to comment
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