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Yahoo answers I was driven mad by that place with the stupid answers given by so called 'experts' clearly things havn't changed Question: Do chickens breast feed their young?

Ino, DF spangle and DEC can mask other genes

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Well is you separated the blues (by dark factor) why not the greens?? stating green, dark green and olive as the dark factor will affect either line

if he was a sky blue (no dark factors) you would ONLY get sky blue chicks - when matched to skyblue hen If he was cobalt (one dark factor) you could get both sky and cobalt chicks - when matched to a sky blue hen if he was mauve (two dark factors) you would ONLY get cobalt chicks - when matched to a sky blue hen too check you could next breed him to a mauve as the above would be reverse: skyblue - only cobalt chicks cobalt - both cobalt and mauves chicks mauve - only mauve chicks

the dad could be cobalt or skyblue as that can give sky blue and or sky chicks depending if the dark factor gene is past on

Yeah i was wondering TCB too wing shot really is needed here to be sure

agree apart from the violet factor - i can't see any signs for in that shot

light green? I would think dark green

greygreen. would need a better shot of the wings to be sure. the look of the flights it could be a cinnamon (which could explain the lightness of the feathers) but the thoat spots look black not brown

voted no, if it will help at all who knows. what a stupid idea. edit- seems the result is very clearly NO

when trying to work out a genetics of a bird a picture of them helps a lot more than a possble looking birds from a website. an Olive bird would have bright yellow markings. as Spangles and Clearwings are mixed up often check them out as a possible match as Dean sugested. can you get a picture of the bird at all?

i don't see signs of cinny or grey either

This bird wouldn't be a YF at all, they patch of green on the belly proves that, as this bird is young (bars to the cere) that patch would be blue on YF at that age. The yellow bleed always starts after the first moult (6 months or so)

But Liv Chrissy is useing the type 2 yellowface gene which doesn't give DF YF appearing as white facesa

50% chance. and Yellowface is a dominant gene and so can not be carried in a bird

he looks cinny to me too, also wondering if the green baby at the back is a cinnamon as well bot greywing

adree with all that DF dom pied matches for the chick and as Neville pointed out it will be male as all hens from this pairing will be INO (and these hens could be dom pied as well just having the gene masked by the INO gene)

You only have to worry about pairing a yf to a normal blue if you are working with the yellowface type 1 gene. to get the max chance of chicks with the yellowface gene you can pair two together if using the yellowface type2 gene. As Neville states that is a 75% with yellow faces (of cuase in clutches it can vary this is a % of and average)

Louie looks great and he is a green recessived pied not yf

i agree snowy's cere looks too tan and flakey to me in the pictures to be male which would be bright pick and smooth

piccies would help there GB Spangles when first breed had a lot of pieds used into the mix and so that is why they appear with the spot of their head.

your hens are blue birds and will not give any green as blue is the recessive gene. green can't be carried (split)

right so he is a goldenface..... i think i was mixing the pairs up last time. the chick would have to appear blue (when born) to be from this pair (the mauve and goldenface) so that rules them out as the parents, even if with the greywing you would think a parent showing it would have more of a chance of having it appear in the nest than from a pair with unknown history to both be split.