dragonwing 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Member ID: 4,466 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 325 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 26/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 23, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Hi All - I am trying to develop my skills at determining the sex of my babies. With my last "crew" of three - I was right with the 2 boys - their ceres are now blue - but the new owner of the third baby says she thinks it is a boy and I think it is a girl. I should mention that I am using their behaviour and personality since hatching as the main factor - as I am still not very good at determining sex from the cere. Here are two pictures of the third baby, which is now 4 1/2 months old - what are your thoughts? Also, I have a new clutch of five and have (I think) a pretty good idea of the sex of three, but am unsure of the other two. Would you mind giving me your opinion on all five? I am also following the tip of taking pictures of the babies and making note of my guess, based on the cere, and checking the pictures again once the sex is positively determined, to help develop my skills - thanks for that great tip! Baby 1 - I think it's a girl (the babies are about 3 - 4 weeks old) Baby 2 - Boy? Baby 3 - Boy? Baby 4 - This one has me stumped! Baby 5 - Another difficult one! Thanks!! :fear Link to comment
Jodie 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Member ID: 4,257 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 981 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,495 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 7, 2014 Birthday: 28/07/1993 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I'm new to sexing babies so don't go by my answers I'm not sure about the first budgie But your others are Boy Girl Boy Girl Boy ........ I think??? Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Hi All - I am trying to develop my skills at determining the sex of my babies. With my last "crew" of three - I was right with the 2 boys - their ceres are now blue - but the new owner of the third baby says she thinks it is a boy and I think it is a girl. I should mention that I am using their behaviour and personality since hatching as the main factor - as I am still not very good at determining sex from the cere. Here are two pictures of the third baby, which is now 4 1/2 months old - what are your thoughts? Looks Female to me ??? Also, I have a new clutch of five and have (I think) a pretty good idea of the sex of three, but am unsure of the other two. Would you mind giving me your opinion on all five? I am also following the tip of taking pictures of the babies and making note of my guess, based on the cere, and checking the pictures again once the sex is positively determined, to help develop my skills - thanks for that great tip! Baby 1 - I think it's a girl (the babies are about 3 - 4 weeks old) Looks Boy To Me Baby 2 - Boy? Looks Girl Baby 3 - Boy? boy Baby 4 - This one has me stumped! girl Baby 5 - Another difficult one! girl Thanks!! :fear I am more likely wrong Link to comment
splat 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted October 27, 2008 (edited) I'm going along with neat, it's hard to tell from photo's, in my own nest I can tell straight away Edited October 27, 2008 by splat Link to comment
Neville 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Member ID: 4,610 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 714 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,640 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2015 Birthday: 09/12/1940 Share Posted October 27, 2008 (edited) The 4 1/2 months old one looks female but it is hard to tell from the photo whether the cere is brown or pink. If it is pink then it will be male, it is a recessive pied and males of this mutation have pink ceres Baby 1 is male. It is also a recessive pied so it's cere will stay pink all it's life Baby 2 is a female sky blue normal Baby 3 is male dark green normal Baby 4 is a female sky blue opaline Baby 5 is a female green opaline Opaline is a sex-linked gene so: Unless the mother has an opaline wing pattern like the last 2 chicks then any babies she has with this wing pattern will be female Edited October 27, 2008 by Neville Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.74 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Don't forget to let us know how we go when they are mature PLEASE!! I think the first one is a hen. the other babies. I can't tell. I'll go with neville he's never wrong Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The 4 1/2 months old one looks female but it is hard to tell from the photo whether the cere is brown or pink. If it is pink then it will be male, it is a recessive pied and males of this mutation have pink ceres Baby 1 is male. It is also a recessive pied so it's cere will stay pink all it's life Baby 2 is a female sky blue normal Baby 3 is male dark green normal Baby 4 is a female sky blue opaline Baby 5 is a female green opaline Opaline is a sex-linked gene so: Unless the mother has an opaline wing pattern like the last 2 chicks then any babies she has with this wing pattern will be female I totally agree with Neville. Link to comment
dragonwing 0 Posted October 27, 2008 Member ID: 4,466 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 325 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 26/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thanks for the help (as always!) I really appreciate it I will update everyone once my little darlings have matured. Link to comment
dragonwing 0 Posted October 16, 2009 Member ID: 4,466 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 325 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 26/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 Don't forget to let us know how we go when they are mature PLEASE!! :thumbs_up: I think the first one is a hen. the other babies. I can't tell. I'll go with neville he's never wrong :reading:Hi everyone - Here is an update on the babies (Sorry it took sooooo long!)The older chick is a femaleBaby #1 is a maleBaby #3 is a maleBaby #4 is a femaleBaby #5 is a femaleBaby #2 Neville thought was a female - I have not seen the bird since it left for it's new home but here is the only picture I have of it, and it seems to look like a male - I hesitate to question Neville as he seems to ALWAYS be right, so please let me know if I am imagining things. Here is the picture.Great job everyone - I can always rely on you! Link to comment
Dean_NZ 0 Posted October 16, 2009 Member ID: 4,879 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 974 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,370 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Gendering from pictures at a young age is not 100%. It is much easier to do in real life with the bird in front of you. Even with high definition photos, I have taken two photos of the same chick where the cere looked white in one picture and pink in the next. One would guess female for the first and male for the second photo of the same chick when i know it to be a male in real life. Link to comment
HeatherLo 0 Posted December 5, 2009 Member ID: 4,768 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 12 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 26/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Don't forget to let us know how we go when they are mature PLEASE!! I think the first one is a hen. the other babies. I can't tell. I'll go with neville he's never wrong Hi everyone - Here is an update on the babies (Sorry it took sooooo long!)The older chick is a femaleBaby #1 is a maleBaby #3 is a maleBaby #4 is a femaleBaby #5 is a femaleBaby #2 Neville thought was a female - I have not seen the bird since it left for it's new home but here is the only picture I have of it, and it seems to look like a male - I hesitate to question Neville as he seems to ALWAYS be right, so please let me know if I am imagining things. Here is the picture.Great job everyone - I can always rely on you! First hand Photos to Update, Bird in Question: by Heather Below is a current picture of `Dragonwing's baby #2'. Willow (a.ka. Baby #2, second clutch), is now a 1yr. old budgie. This bird now belongs to a friend of mine, but was originally bred by Dragonwing. As Dragonwing stated it has been living under the pretense of being 'female' . I guess I was blind . I was surprised when I saw the disciussion and immediately asked my friend for pictures. However, Boy or not my friend is very happy with the adoption of Willow Baby #2 and Spring (100% female) Baby #5 :question: Willow, Kind of looking male. What do you think everyone? ">"> ......For general interest I have added my friends picture of Willow`s clutch mate. Spring (Dragonwings Baby #5, also listed in the above discussion). "> Heather Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted December 5, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Willow is definietly male!!! Link to comment
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