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I was going to say spangle, but It is also clearwing or greywing. I have a normal spangle, and he looks different to this. I thik of spangle as reversing the pattern on wings ( eg. black with white ring ----> white with black ring) By adding in greywing/clearwing, this gives you a white with a grey coloured feather. If it was cinnamon for example, it would be white with cinnamon fringe.

Looking very nice! The cock is a clearbody by the way, and an okay one. $40 for a Show bird! That is very expensive. The hen is gorgeous

I can't see a picture?

Carrots are good. Giving your birds things with high protein, like eggs (whole and crushed) along with silver beet, beetroot, strawberries just to name a few. The chick will be fine as long as mama is on it, just make sure the cage has no drafts.

Remember DF spangles can hide any other mutation including cinnamon But if the YF Blue cock bird (father of DF Spangle) is split for it, wouldn't him and his previous partner would have produced some cinnamon chicks? Would I be able to tell if he is split cinnamon by putting him to a split fallow hen?Just looking now, is it possible the cock is a visual cinnamon?

I considered plum also, and then I am just like O.O cinnamon or pied, I don't know parents (if it is the spangle and norm) lineage, so they may be split?

So if my YF Sky Blue Opaline Spangle Cock is split cinnamon, with a 25% chance, after numerous clucthes, it should have come out? I bred them quite alot, would have at least got 20 chicks from them. Mostly DF Spangles, Some Opaline Blues Maybe some opaline violet/blues....

What I don't understand is, there were only two pairs breeding. The first pair was the parents of the DF Spangle, and the other pair was the DF Spangle and Spangle Grey. I know the spangles grey's parents were a spangle blue and a normal grey hen. There was also a single hen in there, an opaline grey hen. But here parents were a normal blue hen and a grey-wing grey cock. The DF Spangles parents were: YF Blue Opaline Spangle- Father: YF Blue Opaline Spangle (His father was a YF Blue Spangle, mother unknown) Mother: Opaline Violet Spangle ( Mother was a violet spangle, father unkown) Does that make sense? Could the cinnamon come through still?

Eggs = 1

Pictures Depending how this chick turns out, I may let them have another round. Bubba: (eyes are normal right?) http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...le/DSCF9233.jpg Mumma: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...le/DSCF9234.jpg Dadda: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...le/DSCF9239.jpg http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...le/DSCF9241.jpg

Hi all I recently put my boxes in for my 3 pairs and a spare male pet-type aviary. Two hens haven't bred before (black rings) and the other pair hatched 11 chicks out last time. They raised 7, the others fostered. My pairs are: Grey Spangle X Yellow Face DF Spangle cock. (the ones that had 11 chicks) I am confused how it occured, but 4 of the chicks were cinnamon spangles. I know the cocks parentage and their is no cinnamon, so I don't know how it occured??? Violet Cock /Fallow X Cin. Blue Rec. Pied Hen ( I am expecting violet/blue pied's and cinnamon chicks?) Blue Opaline Hen /Fallow X YF Blue Spangle Opaline. (YF Blue Opaline Spangles? The cock is father to the DF Spangle above, with a different hen.) I put the nest's in on the weekend. So far, the rec. pied hen has been nesting, and the grey spangle isn't far behind. Some pictures: (sorry for bad quality, I am shaky coz I have been sick) (He didn't want a picture He preffered flirting )

Budgies look like they love it

Wow! It looks fantastic. So much space, I am sure you must love it! Any pictures of your breeding set up? I am curious how it is set up.

I agree That last chick looks like a handful! ....have you been slipping them steriods? haha joking.

I found that my tiels didn't like it, and they were much more distracted by it then by being outside. Great to see jubejube liked it!

The first link that rachelm posted was very good, I learnt from that and I am only 13 Easy peasy. As mentioned already, better pictures would be helpful

Hmm Interesting. Thanks Kaz . I have been looking for a table for them couldn't find them, so I just assumed they would be ino. So because the dad is a YF Grey Opaline Spangle, I have a chance of getting YF Grey's as well?

First Chick arrived She ended up having 7 eggs in nest,1 fertile. I removed all her clear's and all clears of another pair , and the other pair have 3 fertile eggs, so I moved them into her nest (so she was sitting on 4 fertile eggs) and I let the albino pair go for another round. The other pair the 3 fertile eggs were taken from was an albino hen to yf grey split albino cock. The chick has black eyes, so I assuming that it is the grey-green and spangles chick.

Are you going to be showing for the Nest feather show between NEBS and BSSA? They should be a good age if they hatch out

Gorgeous chicks! <3

Hi! Here is a suggestion: Try putting on the floor of his cage, and playing around with it in your hands when he is in there. Ignore him, and just focus on bell. If you use your peripheral vision to look at him, just to sneak a peek. When he is looking at your hands, drop the bell and don't look at him at all, and leave the room.

Mind reading doesnt work here.......you cannot decide what others will say. Most times I say what gender I think, people disagree Could you get a picture of the budgies wings please? I can't see much of budgie, but I would say clearwing or greywing, yf blue.

I would say female, other people will say male though.

Are you putting any birds in the inter club nest feather show between BSSA and NEBS? Gorgeous birds! All going well I will! I am putting some good quality pairs down the weekend so hopefully there maybe something suitable to show in a couple of months. I am still ringing birds from my second round that started out in March. 63 chicks in the first that survived and 90 as of today in the second. Funny some of these chicks will be almost be year old the minute they are born. Cheers Patrick Do you ring with open bands as well? I have a clearbody pair down, first egg today! If it hatches, it will be nearly perfect age for the show. What other varities do you breed?

okay Kaz, so what do you (and anyone else reading this) belive about what a black beak indicates? Do you favour the birds when culling, or compare them etc?