RIPbudgies

The bird looks at this stage to be a Spangle Greywing Dark Green. So you need to look at one parent having Spangle at least.

I did not know that. What do the sellers call them? I don't know that I have ever seen them any particular name. Here is a list of other crosses to do with Galah, Corella etc. Galah x Short bill corella ( seen in the wild also) Galah x Long Billed Corella Short Billed Corella x Long Billed Corella Galah x Sulphur Crested Cockatoo Major Mitchell Cockatoo x Galah Major Mitchell Cockatoo x Short Billed Corella Short Billed Corella x Sulphur Crested Cockatoo Galah & Corella & MM Cockatoo sub species hybreds... also common Other birds.... King parrots x Red wing parrots Eastern Rosella x Red Rumped Parrot Superb Parrot x Red wing Parrot Eastern Rosella x Pale Headed rosella Princess x Red Rumped Lorrikeet Hybreds (Rainbow, red collar, scaley, musk) all freely interhybredise Webers lorrikeet x Rainbow lorrikeets Black Lori x Rainbow Lorikeets (pope's lori) ( can breed on) Red Lori x Rainbow Lorikeets (Bishops lori) ( also in lutino mutation) (can breed on ) Not all hybrids are sterile (common misconception).

It is not uncommon for that hybrid in the wild just rarely seen or noticed as a hybrid. They have been bred in captivity for quite some years now (I first noticed them some time in the 90's) and can be regularly purchased at the bigger bird outlets.

Well I am still in Perth. Seems some peeps didn't do their paperwork properly and after the visit from the heavies and weighing the truck and shifting the load it finally got approved to go. It wouldn't have been a problem if they hadn't off pulled some antiquated old single axle dolly out of the bowles of the company. So we waited all day for the permit to arrive which finally did at 3pm. Well too damn late then, can't make the designated outskirts of perth before curfew (4.30pm) so the other Pilot and myself called it a day. Now we leave in the morning 5.30am. No curfew on weekends. Now come on peoples have a go at this. Ol nubbs there has made the effort to plan it so please make the effort to have a go. If you don't get it right who cares really. The fun is in trying. Get your books out. Surf the web. Do the sums...crunch the numbers.

Most excellent ol' nubbly one. See you didn't need me to tell you the mistake. You figured it out. okay now I am really going. Cursor is heading towards start button; PRESS. Select Shut Down; PRESS Going.....................Going....................Gone.

I figured I would be banned from making early posts. I believe in people learning from figuring it out for themselves. I can point out an error if you wish me too but at this stage I will not. It can be a learning exercise also. I am away till Monday (escort job again....oh my that sounds suss don't it ). Gina I'll be in mobile range till I get to Wubin after that who knows. Cheers all and have fun.

Quick answer to your question is yes budgies can travel on planes with no ill effect at all. Now your problem is that can you take your budgie! Your personal info says your are in England. You will need to check with your local agricultural department or whoever administers the regulations with regards to exporting. Even if you can take your bird out of the country you may not be allowed to import into another. If you are simply going for a short time I would advise trying to find a friend or local breeder willing to look after your bird while your away.

Is this pairing and results actual or hypothetical?

So agree with Kaz and Nubbly here...the breeder is shonky! I she had pulled the birds from the nest at the time of leg ringing they would be around 7-12 days old depending on size of bird. Feather begin to show through around 10 day of age give or take. Now if she had pulled these birds at the time she states they couldn't of been plucked badly, yet your bird has been severly plucked which usually accours around the time the feathers have really started to emerge.... usually day 14 or so and often for a quite a few days. So things just don't add up. It is sometimes practiced by so called hand raisers they pull the bird from the nest in the last week in an effort to try and tame the bird for sale and convince the unsuspecting they have been hand reared from birth. I suggest that if your bird is so flightly re cameras and even your presence that the bird was not hand reared at all or just topped up for a fewd days prior to sale. As the other say....steer clear of this person.

My birds havent got cuttlefish and they havent got beaks down to their feet It is at times like these I wish I could just draw a quick piccy. I can't so image a row off budgies sitting on a perch comparing there beak length. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Seriously, as Kaz says they use the perches and branches. I also provide blocks which are quite hard. If you have access to old house bricks, preferably those from the turn of the century, chuck one of them in ya aviary. Grit will also provide a grinding substance as well as some mineral intake. I provide four types of grit for my birds all made into one mix.

Cuttle fish is has been used over the years as a source of calcium for cage birds. Today there are many other ways in which calcium can be supplied. Vitamin D3 is not a component of cuttlefish, it is manufactured by the bird with the sun being a catalyst to begin the process. If cuttlefish gets wet it usually will not pose any problem as it tends to dry out again fairly quickly with a bit of sun and wind around. In winter with constant wettness and higher humidity it can develop a covering of green algae. Getting wet constantly can leach any goodness out of the cuttlefish. I personally stopped using cuttlefish over twenty years ago. I use manufactured forms of calcium as they are provided in a ready to assimilate form. Vitamin D3 can now be purchased in liquid form. Also remember the soft foods we feed will also contain calcium and other minerals....so use the manufactured liquids only when required. If you can make sure you bird has access to direct sun for a few hours each day or for those who can't you need to supplement with lighting.

GB I'm with you. There are just a couple on inconsistences here. Feathers are composed of keratin and contain Melanin and in green series birds Pscittacine pigments. When a mutation ocours which affects melanin it is either a luecistic, albanistic or a dilution mutation. In budgies the undulated markings, spots and feet contain melanin. In all mutations to date any change in undulated feathers change also ocours in the spot feather i.e Spangle. Changes which are albanistic in nature have effects of varying degrees over the entire bird i.e. Ino, Fallow, Cinnamon. Luecistic changes are localised, switching production on or off i.e. Pieds. These birds are clearly showing albanistic traits yet don't have red eyes or pink feet. They show a changed melanin over all undulated feathers but it stops at the neck. Since the undulated feathers over the neck and head area are controlled by the same genes for the wings it cannot suddently change the melenin in one area without affecting the other. It must be remember that the pattern, placement, quatity of undulations is the end result of an evolutionary process over thousand of years. The 'violet' coloured birds also shows a high degree of 'orange' feather in patches over the body with the heaviest on the rump yet the tail is unaffected. Melanin resides in the body feathers but in much smaller quantites than that found in the undualtions, yet the intensity of the 'orange' is on a par with the back of the bird. There are chemicals widely used to die feather for the craft trade. Any "Acid Dye" with suffice. RIT is a very common cloth dye, I have used it myself for dyeing wool as well as any number of sources for natural dyes i.e. onion skins, mulberry leaves. You can even use "Koolaid" As for bleaches (chlororines) or hydrogen peroxide (H2O2)generally they tend to cause a faded effect rather than changing the colour. I did a test today to check out what a very powferful bleach would do and it destroyed the feather. No bird was harmed, it was an already shed scapular feather. So to finish I am quite convined it is a hoax.

Except that it was really RIP and Tony who did the hard grunt as I am absolutely useless when it comes to anything practical! You did your bit too Renee. Don't forget you gave that bottle of wine a nudge. The lunch Kaz put together was far more than I expected. Poor Ken was certainly feeling it by the end of the day though. It was a good day and a lot was achieved and it's good to get together with fellow fanciers for a fun day.

A bird cannot be split for Darkwing as this is a dominant gene. It is also only a modifier gene and in a bird with normal markings it will not be seen even though it is present. As for your question renee. A normal bird for instances can be split for every available variety currently known to man. Exception are the allelic series of varieties whereby it can only carry one allele. It also depends on the base bird i.e Normal Green, Normal Blue, Texas Clearbody or if the bird is a cock or hen.

GB gives good advice. I have helped a friend run a pet show many years ago. Livestock will if not moved on quickly drain your bank account faster than anything. It costs a lot of money to feed birds, dogs, cats etc. Seriously take you time looking into it. Check with your council on by-laws etc and as GB says you need to look at certain licensing information depending on what you want to sell. Good luck and good luck in what ever choice you make.

I am a fish and I live in one of the most unhospitable places on the planet and I am rarely seen. Many of my kind were to be found around the wreck of the Titanic.

I feel so sorry for the lady losing her best buddy like that.

Ring-tailed Lemur

Just cooking my dinner when I remembered what I was gonna to add to my post before and forget. If the cock is split for Cinnamon he will only produce a Cinnamon hen. The youngster in the photo looks like a cock bird. Also the bird would have had a plum in when born. Keep your eye out on the next round for any eye colour differences.

This is a Cinnamon Clearwing Light Green hen. Note the cheek patches are paler than for a Clearwing and a Cinnamon. There are also no cinnamon markings evident in this photo, although if you could look closer you would have found a slight brownish hue to the flights and tail feathers. Also this bird is in fully matured feather.

Renee I am fairly sure you Clearwings have come from the same source as mine. If my assumption is correct the chances of the Clearwings having Cinnamon in them would be almost nil. Changes of there being Dilute in the background, well there is always that chance. I always post this on this forum when there is a bird in nest feather but here I will post it again. A BUDGIE IN NEST FEATHER WILL NOT SHOW FULL COLOUR IN ANY FEATHER AS THE FEATHER IS NOT FULLY MATURED! From the photos provided the bird looks like a Clearwing Light Green. I would also say that if the markings are that pronounced as a baby they will be darker once it moults. Also forget the damn standard when trying to classify any bird. The standard is a guide produced with a set of parameters to aid in the classifcation of a bird in relation to showing. It can be used as a rough guide but that's all. As far as some varieties as concerned it causes more problems than it solves.

Maybe put the camera on auto to start with and go from there.

Chikky is racing on Saturday at Belmont, race 2. She is number 7 Canardly Miss. Her last run was a real dissapointment, last out of 14 runners. Even the trainer (Adam) was shocked. It was her first start back from a spell and over 1400m she pulled so much and just wouldn't settle that she ran out of puff about 200m from home. Adam said she has to learn to settle cause she mostly definately has the potential. Knucky is riding her on Saturday. He rode her in her first race and won, so maybe he is the jockey for her. Well see on Saturday. Disappointment for me is we finally get to a Saturday race day and I can't make it cause I will be in Albany driving a bus up and down Mt Clarence for the Mountain Bike Downhill Championships. I have put a reminder into me phone have made note of the racing radio frequency for Albany. Just just hope the bus has a radio and gets reception!

You have done a really great job on that.

Currently as my set up is small I put all used seed in a container and when full I winnow it. That winnowed seed is then used in a mix I make up for my Barbary Doves. In previous times when I had 400 plus budgies I fed seed in the flights in separte dishes so not waste and as they flew down to the dishes it would blow the husks off. When breeding all dishes were done daily and tipped into a container. At the end of the week it was winnowed and then remixed with other seeds for the pigeons and doves. some was thrown into the garden to provide seeding heads and picked at the sugar stage of growth and fed to the breeding birds and fledglings.