**Liv**

YES,,,thats why I called her a sky violet hahaha - so you did hahaha Their babies are going to be very lovely :hap:

OOO... OOOO... OOOO... I know!!!! They will be Sky Blue and/or violet cinnamons hehehhe - your hen looks like she is carrying violet :hap:

i love that video of Henny Penny :hap: You go girl - work up a good apatite so you can eat EVEN MORE of that great food your mum gives you Oh and Barney says Henny Penny looks GREAT working out!!! hahah he started cherping like crazy at the sound of your birds hahahahaha

Thanks Neat and JimmyBanks - I am hoping that he will be healthy too - or at most not infectious

:(Laughing out loud): hahaha okay on a serious note... I have checked him over physically. He is flighty but i noticed that he makes a low pitched squeak when stressed. I have heard other birds making that sound before too. like when a wing clipped bird plops to the ground and the wind gets knocked out of them for a moment. So i dont know if its anything, but it is worth mentioning just in case. His weight is good. He is not skinny, but he could do with a touch more weight. He was in a big flight with lots of other birds before so that could explain his leanness. His stains... And the same picture again, but in full resolution Here It is stained feathers. There is no mucas or moisture there. I looked under the feathers on his head and have found a LOT of small pin feathers comeing though just above his cere. You can not see them unless you run his feathers the wrong way. Bad moult perhaps? I am holding off on worming him until i know it is not going to make him sick.

They look like green dominant pieds, and normal greens to me

The are lovely. It is so great to finally meet them love the captions too

His eyes are clear and bright. His vent is clean (even under the stress of a new home) His droppings are the normal black with white dot His breathing is visably normal - his tale is still when breathing and there is no noise etc No sneezing He is active and flighty He is eating lots His weight is normal (visably) I will get him out soon and check him physically before I have my shower. Don't need to be sorry, its a great question Thanks Norm. It is easy to freakout about infectious illness when young kids can be exposed I am a little calmer this morning, but am still treating him carefully. I am REALLY hoping it's from somthing minor. Chlamydia .... I don't want to have to explain that to my hubby :

I REALLLLLLY hope its from simple allergies - that would be a fantastic outcome

***Breathe in ---- Breathe out ----- Breathe in ---- Breathe out**** Better... The thought of bringing illness to my flock horrifies me and to know that something could also infect my children reduces me to a quivering wreck :fear . - only because my family and my birds are my life . Isn't a carrier someone who is basically immune to the desease but continues to spread it around to others. That just means HE is not sick, but can still make everyone else sick??? okay i need more deep breaths again

:fear okay, I am scared. I have Scooter in with Latte and Cookie and Barney - I cleaned his cage and have put Lady in Scooters old cage. EEEKK I hope she is going to be okay and not catch anything too What about my kids etc...??? okay....... I need to breathe, and await your response Kaz, as i am starting to freak out!!!

He is in the "What are these marks" thread. I think he is sick

Those in show breeding circles treat these symptoms with doxycycline...only available from a bird vet. Make sure your quarantine area is minimum 5 metres from all other birds. I have them well away from my flock - but oh i am getting scared - I am reading that it is transmittable to humans. it can be active in poop for 3 months, it can be carried in feather dust etc etc etc ARRRR!!!! what a nightmare!!!!

Thats not good :hap: I have him and Lady in the same cage too (because they were living together anyway) Scooter is still in the other quarantine cage, but is due to come out on Saturday. I might take him out now and pop him in with the others as he is fine, and let Lady have scooters cage. I have had a close look at him. he is not sneezing or showing signs of fresh discharge (other than the old looking stain) His breathing is normal and i have read he will need antibiotics to treat it.

This is my new male that i purchased yesterday. He is in quarintine, but i just wanted to check what the dark marks are above his cere. I am hoping they are just from a fight or moulting.... Thanks Liv haha helps if i add the picture hahaha

Thats a very bad case of splayed legs Looks like he really loves his birds. I am pleased he didn't get fired

I also got a violet cinnamon opaline male The lace wings and fallows were gone and the place was a complete disaster zone with sick and dying birds, dead birds, dirty water and no seed. I left with an aching heart, lots of tears and no birds - so i didn't get your fallow information, sorry . I wouldn't even buy a PINK budgie from that dirty discusting cruel place!!!!!! :hap:

Three out of the five have light markings and they will show up stronger with the moult....just like their mother.....she was sold to me as an albino and her markings came in after her first moult. Oh that is exciting!! I love the lacewing markings - They are so delicate and lovely. I look forward to lots of post first moult pics then too

Perhaps you could bolt wood to the topside of the rods for the birds to sit on?????

They are really lovely The babies markings are lighter than I expected, are they double factor, or does that not exist in the lacewing type???

Thanks Sunnie. It would be great if you could PM me the details when you get them Here is some new pictures of Lady - she is in a far better mood today The dried blood is from when she broke a blood feather yesterday she is fine now though :hap:

you must be

Your hen is too young. I would hand raise both babies, especially as you say you are experienced in rasing baby birds, and recommend you remove the two nest boxes. A hen that breeds under 12 months of age is only a baby herself and dosen't know what she is doing, (like a 9 year old girl) not to mention the health risks to heself and the chicks. When the hen is old enough, she should breed much better

I have finished with colony breeding and i have decided to reduce the amout of breeding the birds do as i am not actively selling my birds. It won't take long for my aviary to over crowd if i'm not careful. I will put some more perches in my aviary soon so i can fit more birds. What do breeders normally do with their 'culled' birds? I am only going to use cabnents now, and BG and his new Lady (i think that can be her name, Lady :hap: ) will be the first ones in I am very excited about them and i never even thought about DF Spangles or even YF DF Spangles

If you are going to take her out of the cage - pop her in a shoe sized box with lots of holes in it. If you let her fly around your house she will just get very stressed and hurt herself by crashing into the ceiling and windows etc. I clean my quarintine cages with pure white vinigar and then hose them down outside, but thats just me