Elly

I am going to add to the FAQ if you don't mind Kaz. Hugs on the hen

your right SW I didn't mean it as actual theory but quote unquote theory , but that is good information.

Gorgeous birds and Elly is tell you to enter one of those pictures (I like the 2nd head shot) into the Budgie of the Month Contest .

this is so terrible but the small effort of everyone people will forage ahead and make it....God Bless.

Welcome and glad to have you here

The article is Baby Budgerigars Milestones by Betty Rhea, first published in 2004 and republished in February 2009 Aviary Chatter magazine. After listing the milestones from Day 1 -35, the author writes: "During the first days after hatching the newborns are nestled all the time. The mother completely covers them. As consecutive chicks hatch they huddle close together with the youngest at the bottom. They rest their necks on each other and stay in this huddle even when the mother leaves the nest. The reason for this is their intense need for body contact – staying in this huddle provides this contact, maximises warmth and happens to be a very good resting position. That for the first week of its life a newly hatched chick is entirely dependant on its mother and siblings for body heat. It is only when it reaches a week old that it becomes 'warm blooded' and from then on maintains its body heat for itself by oxidizing its food." I think this statement is being misunderstood because they are born warm blooded but it isn't until a week old that they can maintain their own body heat. She does have warm blooded in quotes like and she never said the chick was hatched cold blooded. I read this statement else where too in the articles.

doing a google you can find nothing definete about anything most of everything seems to be a "theory" Example: Now saying that birds didn't come from dinosaurs http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf093/sf093b08.htm Now here is an article saying yes http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/avians.html then there are even more articles http://www.dino-web.com/birds.html I did not find any articles that support that baby birds are cold blooded when they hatch though to support the original topic of this thread. I did find information that they are endothermic http://www.cincinnatizoo.org/pdfs/Classifi...ensions_1-3.pdf which means they are warm-blooded when they are hatched. Renee, if you can post the article that Betty wrote up for Rares magazine that would be wonderful, I did a google search for her name and the magazine and it only brought me back to this post .

What is this budgie saying or thinking? You VOTE and decide!! (sidenote, there were some members that put in more then 1 idea because there is a max of 20 choices I made sure everyone got in their first idea and then added the reminder ) Please no comments just voting!! If you have questions feel free to PM me.

Thank you for the update . As for your aviary question, you may want to post that as a separate post in the aviary section .

I agree on male too, Pretty's cere would deepen like that too at times.

Very cute , another suggestion if you can is put the food containers higher that keeps them from getting soiled and budgies feel safer eating up higher but there are times they forage on the bottom.

They are gorgeous, is it okay that they breed so soon after arriving or can that cause too much stress?

excellent :doh:

good to hear keep us updated

An all pellet diet is not recommended, I know here in the U.S. they want to see the birds on pellets and you will find that many members on here would never give their bird a pellet at all it is a very debatable subject. In our food and nutrition section in the FAQ, http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/faqs/i...=show&cat=5 you will find different articles. I believe that variety is best and pellets are okay and so is seed but best is a diet that consistent of a lot of variety of vegatable and fruits not just one thing is good a variety is best :doh:. If he ate the pellets that readily that means that I bet you can get him to eat a healthy diet of veggies and fruits also. You can put seed and the pellets together and see if he eats both . When feeding pellets I would stay away from anything that is colored and only use natural pellets with no color additives. Do becareful when you are doing a diet change it can throw them into a molt too and he probably will be going into his first molt soon anyways.

those are wonderful photos, the last one you should enter for Budgie of the Month

keep us updated

I mentioned it Kaz...raises hand LOL ...I do think a picture would be wonderful though and we would love to see your birds.

Huge hugs, this is so devestating....

Liv, I don't have experience in what type of hen you should pair him with but I agree is a beauty and I look forward to seeing your decision and the journal.

no they can't breed

Yes, I suggest these things. 1. Call an avian vet and get your bird seen 2. Separate them, so the sick one is away from the healthy one they will probably call to each other 3. Keep the sick on in a room that you can warm up to at least 75F or keep the cage covered and warmed We are not avian vet or professionials so calling a vet today ASAP is best.

Through selective breeding.

confused looks totally grey too me is it mauve then? It is the lighting of the photographic.