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Congratulations Nerwen. It seems like Tootie is determined to beat the odds.

Basically.. yep. Do you have another cobalt spangle other than Blinkie?If you do, you may be able to get mauve spangles (&etc...) with Akala.

Alala & Bobbi - It's a bit overwhelming to put it all together. Opaline- Opaline cocks,Normal/split Opaline cocks,Opaline hens, Normal hens (Bobbi is split for opaline because his mother is opaline/Budgie may also be split for opaline.. I think that you've had a male opaline from him) Spangle - 50% Spangle, 50% Normal Dark Factors - 50% Cobalt, 50% Sky Blue Bobbi could be split for Cinnamon or Albino and that could show up in female chicks. Greywing - all chicks will be split for Greywing You could get normal cobalt, normal skyblue, opaline cobalt, opaline skyblue, cobalt spangles, sky blue spangles, cobalt opaline spangles, skyblue opaline spangles and (maybe add cinnamon to any of those combinations) (or albinos.. or lacewings) I don't think I even want to figure out the odds for each (if I could) Jasper & Lemon - Normal greens and green spangles - All babies will be split for blue. Males will be split for -ino and cinnamon. 50% of the babies will be split for recessive pied. Jasper is split for opaline. You can get opaline hens, normal hens, males split for opaline and normal males There's a 50/50 chance that Jasper is split for -ino, if he is you could get lutinos cocks, Normal/split lutino cocks, lutino hens, Normal hens There's a 50/50 chance that Jasper is split for cinnamon, if he is you could get cinnamon cocks, Normal/split cinnamon cocks, cinnamon hens, normal hens -- I suppose you could even get more lacewings. I hope that clears things up a bit. You have complicated budgies.

Plaid!

I thought Feather would make a good budgie name.. but that's probably just me. My names are a bit "different"

I'm very sorry to hear about what happened. Hopefully they will be able to find out what it was and treat their other birds if necessary.

Great article.. always good to have a reminder.

Maybe a greywing.. what color are the dark spots on her wings (in person)? Khepri has simular coloring.

Peregrine looks so cute in the first picture. Very adorable - both of them.

Very pretty.. yes, she's an opaline. What was yesterday's tragedy you're referring to?

It's not a bad plan Bea.. but I think that at this point Blinkie would be more reluctant to accept a friend than Apple was. When Munch was introduced Apple was still just a baby himself. Probably given time, Blink would warm up to the idea/new friend.. but he could also become very protective of his things/favorite person. I think you'd want a different cage if your plan was to have them both in one. Budgies aren't really as territorial some birds, but you never know.

One of my favorites.

Recessive pieds don't get an iris ring and adult males cere stay pink. Dominant pieds get an iris ring and the males get a bright blue cere. In most cases the markings are different. The recessives pieds have blue or green closer to their belly and legs the characterictic spots on their wings. With dominant pieds, you can get dom. pied babies if only one of the parents is dom. pied.

You're new answer isn't technically wrong Lovey.. because there is a 50, 50 chance that a baby will be male or female.. but I find it simpler to say that all females will be cinnamon and all males will be split for cinnamon, like in your first answer. But yeah.. a potential 50% visual cinnamons would be accurate, they'd just all be female. There's a 50% chance that they will be male - any male will be split for opaline. There's a 50% chance that they will be female and any females will be non-opaline. Dilute and Recessive pied are totally different mutations.. but they are both recessive mutations meaning that you need to get a gene from both parents for either one to show in the chicks.. Its not enough to get dilute from one parent and recessive pied from another. You'd need to get dilute from both or recessive pied from both for it to show. However since one parent is Dilute and one is Recessive pied, that means that all the babies will be split for dilute and recessive pied. You wouldn't know it by looking at them, but those traits would be carried in their genes and could "come out" in future generations. So mating two recessive birds means you will get normals. Will they most likely be normal green? No, they'll all be blue. You can't get green from 2 blue birds. Blue is also a recessive trait (like recessive pied or dilute). -Also yours' wouldn't all be normals because the females will be cinnamon. Normal refers to a green or blue budgie with the "standard" black wings. in order to get more dilutes I need to mate with another dilute unless the male is split for dilute? Yes - another dilute would give 100% dilute offspring, any male split for dilute would give a possible 50% visual dilutes And in order to get more pieds I need to mate with pieds unless the dilute it split for pied? This is so confusing. Yes.. it works the same as the dilutes. That's only true of recessive pieds though.. like Tazzy - dominant pieds are another story. But it is possible that your dilute is split for recessive pied (or vice versa) because there's no way of knowing what her parents, grandparents, etc looked like. You can't tell what a birds split for by looking at it , That would simplify things a lot.

Good Lovey.. and also all babies will be split for dilute unless Tazzy is split for it. If Tazzy is truely violet you may get some violets as well - how many would depend on whether he is single factor or double factor and if he has 1 dark factor (is cobalt).

Very determined and cute.

Both so pretty.. you'd end up with normal greens - unless the recessive pied is split for blue, or the blue is split for recessive pied. (And maybe a few surprises if they are split for other traits.)

Very pretty.. so cute together.

How adorable.. his head looks so huge.

They're both stunning. :budgiedance:

It's great to see Pixel looking so much better already.

Welcome :budgiedance:.. Bobby is a cutie..

I'm not great at this.. but I'll have a guess. 1. All females will be Lutino. Males will be normal green (split for blue and lutino) 2. All females will be Lutino. Males will be normal green and grey green (split for blue and lutino) 3. Normal greens and grey greens (males split for lutino)

You could try asking in the genetics section cheeky. The blue one is a male.. hard to say what the color is without a picture of the back of the wings.. maybe spangle.. or greywing. Yellow one looks like a yellowface type 2 recessive pied.. More pictures would help. Try to start a new topic in the Mutations/color varieties section. I'm not really sure on the gender from the picture. Maybe female (???)

http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....wtopic=5857&hl= Here's a picture of one of mine hanging upside down when she was little. Even Bunny hangs upside down sometimes playing with toys.