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Pretty bird Javi.. I would have guessed golden faced or yellowface on it.. looks like some blue near the legs on my moniter.

Adorable.. Star is just so sweet looking.

Aww.. I think she's so cute. Good girl not to make any noise when she was smuggled out.

She's a cutie.. She'll look so great when her flights come back in.. its so annoying when pet shops clip them.

The picture that Una posted earlier is what a green spangle would look like. Your first link isn't a green spangle. You could get birds that look like the other 3.. but its hard to say exactly what the pieds would look like. They can have very different markings, from just a spot on the back of the head.. to completely yellow wings.. and anything in between. The pied spangles could look something like this.. but without the blueish shade on the belly. They would have green instead. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=8889 Also any of those examples could have cinnamon wing markings if they are females.

She could be, it's hard to say with the lighting.. how would you describe her green coloring - lighter/more faded than normal or brighter?

hint : look at the base color near the tail in the last picture.

I can imagine that PM.." Pssst Una.. here's what Mig is ____ Don't tell Lovey" (Laughing out loud) Lovey.. I think you were close with your original answer.. but it didn't account for the yellow..

How adorable.. he reminds me of Fourteen.. but his yellow is stronger.

If it's the male that's cinnamon - all the female babies would be cinnamon and the male babies would be split for cinnamon. If one of the parents is dominant pied and the other is not, then half could be dominant pied. 50% pied 50% not pied. Females could be 25% Cinnamon Dominant Pied Green 25% Cinnamon Dominant Pied Spangle Green 25% Cinnamon Spangle Green 25% Cinnamon normal Green Males could be 25% Dominant Pied Green 25% Dominant Pied Spangle Green 25% Spangle Green 25% normal Green All the males would be split for cinnamon. All of the babies, males and females, would be split for blue.

Sorry to get your hopes up Kirby.. I posted that picture to show that a budgie can be both spangle and dominant pied. You could get babies kind of like the one in the picture by breeding a green spangle with a pied bird but they would be green.. and they wouldn't be opaline either unless the parents (mainly father) was opaline or split for opaline. If one of the green spangles parents was blue.. then you would know for sure that it was split for blue. If one of the green spangles parents are split for blue - they could still pass the blue gene on to some of their babies.. but there would be no way of knowing which babies got it - even if you knew for sure that one of the green spangle's parents was split for blue. Basically, what I'm saying is that the baby green spangle is probably not split for blue.. so yes.. you would get greens if you evenutally bred it with a blue bird. However all of their hypothetical babies would be split for blue because on of the parents would have been blue.

Thats what I mean.. Assuming that Wylie is single factor - that means he has one yellowface gene coupled with a blue gene you could call them "YF2" and "b"(double factor would mean he has 2 yellowface genes, no blue genes). A double factor yellowface type one has a white face (don't ask why (Laughing out loud)..) so the new one would also be single factor - one yellowface gene and one blue gene you could call them "YF1" and "b". YF2 b (Wylie) and YF1 b (Star) could give you 25% YF2 b; 25% YF2 YF1 ; 25% YF1 b ;and 25% b b It's that b b combination that gives you the blue birds (with white faces)

Here's a good example.. you can see its both spangle and dominant pied (and opaline and yellowface). http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/Littl...es/IMG_1179.jpg Oh.. and I think that Bea's new one Ozzie is both pied and spangle too.

I think someone said that Yoki is a green clearwing and Paco is a grey spangle.. do you have a couple more pictures of them?

hen green spangle, and if i bred her to a yellow faced blue type II 50% spangle, 50% non-spangle.. if yellowface is single factor then 50% will be split for yellowface, and 50% will be split for blue. You could get yellowface or blue if the green spangle is split for either yellowface or blue. Let me try to see if this makes any sense. You could get 50% spangle, 50% non spangle... 50% pied, 50% non pied.. so.... each spangle has a 50% chance of being pied .... 25% spangle, 25% spangle pied and each non spangle has a 50% chance of being pied.... 25% pied, and 25% normal

They're both beautiful. How about Venus or Comet for the green one? Not necessarily. You could get 25% blues if Wylie is single factor yellowface. The rest should be yellowfaces. Only males will be split for opaline, unless Wylie is split for it himself - then you could get some. I think that the new girl may be a greywing.. If she is, if you paired her with a dilute, you'd probably get all greywings (but could get 50% greywings and 50% dilutes)

Very pretty bird - how about August for a name?

Here's my spangle Little.. he's skyblue, even though looks more cobalt in these. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/Dollyland/839b6547.jpg

I think I see some yellow on Squeakers wings. They're so adorable. None of these babies are going to be clearbody like Tootie are they, but the males will be split for it?

Loui is a beautiful bright shade of blue.. they're both very pretty.

Hi and Welcome. Loui and Lizzi are both very pretty. Stunning colors.

The new birds are so gorgeous.. I love how organized the cage setup looks.

Why do you you think you need to hand-rear a chick? I'm sure that if it parents take good care of it, it wouldn't be necessary. If you think that you need to handfeed a baby bird to tame it the way you'd like, I personally don't think that you would. I've never had (or wanted) a handfed bird (and I haven't even had the benefit of being able to interact with them when they are still in the nest. You would.) My birds are still tame. Someone on another bird said that its not the act of handfeeding them that makes them tame, but the interaction at a young age. From what I understand handfeeding, is something that only someone experienced in doing so should even attempt. There are many things that can go wrong -- and plenty of information to know -- not just about what you need and how to do it, but how to properly socialize chicks so that they won't have emotional issues when they grow up. However - A breeder does need to know how to handfeed a chick in case of something goes wrong and the parents aren't able to care for the babies. Do you have a breeder nearby that can demonstrate how to do it for you? It may not be enough to just read about how to handfeed without getting a real feel for what it would be like. Getting some "lessons" would probably be something you'd want to do before attempting to breed you birds.

She looks so cute in it.. too bad she wants no part of the thing...

Good job Tweety.. got to keep those feathers beautiful.