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probably normal yellowfaces and blues. Females would be opaline and males would be split for opaline.. all of the babies would be split for rec. pied. What do you mean "white pieds"? If you mean could you get ones that don't have yellowfaces, I'd say yes.. if you are wondering if Chico is split for greywing... maybe greywing. do yo have a picture of his mother? You couldn't get any greywings unless the female is or is split for greywing, clearwing or dilute.

Pretty Ozzie.. Pretty Blinkie.. so cute together.. I want 2 budgies.. no.. wait I have 4 *yikes*

They are all so so cute. I love Squeaker and Reep.. and Tootie of course.

Just a quick thought.. many (probably most) of the inos you'd find are going to be females. That's not to say that you'd never get your little boy, but since ino is a sex-linked trait females are more common.

Very pretty.. Lizzie looks quite a bit like Khepri.

They all look great. Nice to see Alfred again.

Aww.. they're cute for evil vicious budgies. I don't think that they respect you Bea.. the marks on your hand look alot like the back of my neck when Bunny's done with it.

Terri, I understand what you were proposing in your original post. There's nothing wrong with wanting an open communication between the breeder and the people who end up with their babies. I am very sorry about what you are going through with Pippin and I think that it is unfortunate that you can't let his breeder know what is happening. I'm sure that it would be difficult to impossible to get in touch with them through the store where bought him, but it may be worth inquiring (or at to let someone at the store know what's going on with him) Would his breeder want to stop his parents from breeding again if they knew what he was suffering at such a young age? I really don't know. It would be great it they would (or even knew who his parents were)

violet spangle x white recessive cinnamon violet hen 50% spangles, 50% normal all split for recessive pied males split for cinnamon. If they are both true violets -- color depends on how many dark factors and how many violet factors each parent has. For example: if they are both single factor violet cobalts, then you would get mauves, cobalts and skyblue -- and each of those could get 0,1, or 2 violet factors. a violet spangle x normal skyblue hen again 50% spangle, 50% normal. If the violet is a single factor violet cobalt, then you could get cobalts and sky blues --- and each of those babies could get 0 or 1 violet factors. If the violet is a double factor violet sky blue, then all babies would be sky blue with 1 violet factor. a yellow faced blue type II x green dilute spangle hen possible 50% spangles, 50% normals -- all babies split to dilute If the yellowface is single factor then you'd get greens :: half of them would be split to blue and half would be split to yellowface. If he's double factor yellowface then all the babies would be green split to yellowface. yellow faced blue type II opaline recessive pied x green dilute spangle hen 50% spangle, 50% non-spangle. Females would be opaline and males would be split to opaline. All babies would be split to dilute and recessive pied. All babies would be green split to yellowface or blue if no splits are present in the green dilute spangle. a yellow faced blue type II opaline recessive pied x white recessive cinnamon violet pied All babies would be recessive pied. Possible 50% yellowface and 50% blue (white face) if the yellowface is single factor.. all yellowfaces if yellowface is double factor. All females would be opaline and all males would be split for opaline and cinnamon. Whether or not you'd get any violets depends on how many dark factors on the male and how many dark and violet factors on the hen. yellow faced blye type II x normal skyblue hen All normals possible 50% yellowface and 50% normal blue (with white faces)

He's very pretty. Nice color. His spangle markings are so much thicker than my spangle's

Very cute.. I say girl too.. but maybe a bit older than the pet store told you.

I wouldn't see any reason why not.. I think it could happen if dad and mom were both recessive pieds and dad was split for ino. That's not the only way it would be possible either.

Awww.. I had a yellowface pied that looked alot like that one. I think that one's a male.. I'm not sure but I would have guessed that the creamino is a female. I love how dark the yellow is on (her?) Do you know if they're related?

He's very cute.. dilute yellowface is what I think as well. His beak looks a bit odd in the second picture.. is it just the picture though?

If he is yellow (like a lutino).. then you'd only get greens unless he was split for blue or yellowface but if he is white or yellowface (like a creamino) you could get blue or yellowface spangles.

He's so cute.. beautiful coloring.

The Lime and Greenie are the ones that have 5 babies now.. The babies they have pictured in the availability section do appear to be pieds.. and I guess that they would have to be recessive pieds since neither parent looks pied to me. Green recessive pieds are mostly yellow.. so that's not going to change. What those babies look like is pretty much how they will look when they get older. Their base color is green so there would be a bit of green near their legs and near their tail. Here's basically what a dark green recessive pied looks like. The markings and amount of green vary from bird to bird.. I think that the babies for sale will have less green on them. Light green and dark green refer to the shade of green.. light green is brighter. http://www.geocities.com/fondsmile/baby.html Snow and Violet. I think that Snow is the male in that pair and he appears to be an albino.. and if so any female babies will be albinos like he is. I'm not sure what the males will be since he is an albino and any other mutations he has are "masked". There would be no green babies from this pair.. maybe violets and maybe blues.

Not only would a double factor spangle produce any spangles.. he or she would produce all spangles if paired with any non-spangle (and some double factor spangles if paired with another spangle) I think that DF spangle males get a blue cere and dark eyed clear males ceres stay pink like recessive pieds.

They're all so cute and precious.. I don't think that baby 3 is a grey though.. maybe mauve?

http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/gen_dec.html I never really took the time to try to understand dark eyed clears before.. from the above link... It appears to me that Dark eyed clears is the term used to describe a bird that is clearflight and recessive pied simultaneously. The rules are still the same.. clearflight is dominant so only one parent needs to be clearflight. But since recessive pied is recessive, both parents need to pass on the recessive pied gene. That explains why the clearflight would need to be split for recessive pied. A dark eyed clear is a recessive pied.. and it is a clearflight.

http://www.budgerigars.co.uk/charts/decch.html Here's a dark eyed clear chart. It looks as though that you'd need to breed a clearflight split for recessive pied with a recessive pied, for dark eyed clears to be possible from such a pairing. However, even if your clearflight isn't split for recessive pied when you breed it with a recessive pied some of the babies could be clearflights split for recessive pieds. If you were "lucky" and your clearflight turned out to be split for recessive pied, here's what you could get by breeding her with a recessive pied male. 25% Recessive Pied 25% Normal/Recessive Pied 25% Clearflighted (sf)/Recessive Pied 25% Dark-eyed Clears So keep that in mind, and even if not this time you may be able to get that if you breed one of her babies with a recessive pied.

Interesting.. I think that one of the easiest would be a male creamino. If he is male, then you'd get ino females no matter who he was paired with -- lutino with a green bird and creamino or albino with a yellowface. If you bred him with a cinnamon female, you may be able to get lacewings from one of his sons in the future. They may be a good pair if you would like to try for dark eyed clears somewhere down the road .. or if the clearflight is split for recessive pied, DEC's would be possible. You could get dilutes from these 2.. they'd probably be green.. but maybe blue or yellowface if the green is split for blue or yellowface. The only way you'd get more recessive pieds is if one of your hens is split for recessive pied.. you wouldn't know for sure... so you could breed him with a blue hen with at least one dark factor like Female Cobalt Opaline to try for some more visual violets. Could be intresting.. probably no dilutes or opalines.. but you never know. I probably haven't accounted for everybody.. but there's a few thoughts.

Cute pictures.. She's really pretty, all of mine like their broccoli, but Bunny gets really excited about it. They like spinach quite a bit too.

They are all soooooooo cute. Berry has so many throat spots..

Quite a resemblance.. here's Bunny when he when I first brought him home.. and why he's now called Bunny.