I just got this new 07 hen...just wondering on her mutation, it's not grey green right??

She has cinnamon wings also!!!

Also should I pair her with a cobalt cock when the time comes...or any other suggestions!!!

 

 

 

Edited April 3, 201014 yr by KAZ

Cinnamon grey green normal

Yep, definately cinnamon grey green sorry!

Grey Green Cinnamon

What was it you saw in this hen that might have made you think it was a vioet green ?

LOL.... I'm confused on what a voilet green looks like, I saw a picture when I googled it and it looked similar....must be wrong picture on the site I saw, thats why I questioned it!!!

Didn't know there was a voilet green mutation........Anyone got a link to what one looks like???

Don't get confused by the use of the name violet green in reality people use this term to describe a dark green that genetically carries a violet factor. Hope that helps Clearwing

this is not so clear wing i must disagree

you can breed a green bird with violet factor showing which darkens the green

yes its used mainly as you say but a violet green is a colour not to be confussed with a violet breed green bird

 

which is as you said just a turm to state its carrying a violet genetic possably

but a single factor violet green is as a single factor skyblue

its got a defenent violet shine on it

 

i have pics of two i have but i cant seem to get my stupid photo bucket to work

but i did post them once before in a thread not to long ago around december in a thread where a young chick was under debate on colour

ill try to find them for you the pics

 

  clearwing said:

Don't get confused by the use of the name violet green in reality people use this term to describe a dark green that genetically carries a violet factor. Hope that helps Clearwing

  GenericBlue said:

this is not so clear wing i must disagree

you can breed a green bird with violet factor showing which darkens the green

yes its used mainly as you say but a violet green is a colour not to be confussed with a violet breed green bird

 

which is as you said just a turm to state its carrying a violet genetic possably

but a single factor violet green is as a single factor skyblue

its got a defenent violet shine on it

 

i have pics of two i have but i cant seem to get my stupid photo bucket to work

but i did post them once before in a thread not to long ago around december in a thread where a young chick was under debate on colour

ill try to find them for you the pics

 

GB, I understand what your saying, but my understanding is there are only three officially recognized greens ie. Light green, dark green and olive. cheers Clearwing

Edited April 4, 201014 yr by KAZ

The violet gene in the green works the same as it does in blue - its a colour additive. Recognising it in the green series birds is much harder and requires a trained eye or knowledge. For example I have a light green single factor violet cock, except often in violet light greens the violet factor comes across like a dark factor and the bird looks like a dark green. The only noticeable difference is a slightly violet hue and the fact that the tail is turquoise - not navy. (Sky blues and light greens have a turquoise colour to the main two tail quills, cobalts and dark greens have solid navy blue and i might be wrong but if memory serves, mauves and olives have dark navy or black tails).

 

I havent bred a violet dark green so i couldnt guess at how the appearance is altered with a dark gene + a violet gene, but I imagine it is simply a much darker dark green and is best noticed when such a bird is standing next to a normal dark green.

thank you for explaining what i was trying to say i have a lot of trouble expressing myslf

dark green bird with violet looks to be very murky mouldy looking green

 

as you said a light green violet looks or apears dark green bird such to speak

 

 

clearwing yes in the show systim their not reconized but that does not excluded them

and their a very handy bird to have violet light greens especially in breeding violets

 

 

you yeald more visualviolets than you would from a normal skyviolet to cobalt pairing

 

  Dean_NZ said:

The violet gene in the green works the same as it does in blue - its a colour additive. Recognising it in the green series birds is much harder and requires a trained eye or knowledge. For example I have a light green single factor violet cock, except often in violet light greens the violet factor comes across like a dark factor and the bird looks like a dark green. The only noticeable difference is a slightly violet hue and the fact that the tail is turquoise - not navy. (Sky blues and light greens have a turquoise colour to the main two tail quills, cobalts and dark greens have solid navy blue and i might be wrong but if memory serves, mauves and olives have dark navy or black tails).

 

I havent bred a violet dark green so i couldnt guess at how the appearance is altered with a dark gene + a violet gene, but I imagine it is simply a much darker dark green and is best noticed when such a bird is standing next to a normal dark green.

A green bird carrying violet would also have a violet coloured cheek patch compared with the bird pictured which has a steely blue/grey cheek patch indicating that the bird is a grey green. Nice hen! A good pickup there!

I think I have my budgie genetics mixed up here, because Marigold has violet cheek patches and so does one chick. The other green chick has blue patches that I compared it to. Could Marigold be split to violet and Skye split to mauve?Also, I noticed a green chick has an all green tail with no blue ?

Edited April 4, 201014 yr by Ratzy

  Ratzy said:

I think I have my budgie genetics mixed up here, because Marigold has violet cheek patches and so does one chick. The other green chick has blue patches that I compared it to. Could Marigold be split to violet and Skye split to mauve?Also, I noticed a green chick has an all green tail with no blue ?

 

Violet cheek patches do not mean a violet bird. Violet cannot be present in split form as it is a partial dominance gene (meaning the double factor form shows/expresses more than a single factor). You cannot be split to dark factors either (eg sky blue, cobalt or mauve) birds simply ARE a certain colour. Grey greens and greys can be very very difficult to determine the dark factor and it takes a trained eye. Even violet greys and violet grey greens can be hard to pick out.

 

The green chick with a 'green' tail is likely a light green with a TEAL or TURQUOISE tail.

Thanks. How did I get a mauve chick? The chick's tail 'looked' green. I'll check as soon as I get home.