*Nerwen*

Whitewing is a term also used for a blue clearwing. Spangles and clearwings look very similar to an untrained eye. I see 4 spangles (two yellowfaces one green a a blue) and two normals. Clearwings are part of the dilute gene family and their flight feathers have no markings on them (if a very good clearwing) or they are a pale grey. These birds have a black fine line.

Show breeder ALWAYS pick the pair they want to match up to get the best chicks (they hope) so there is no reason you can't pick the future happy couple. If you don't feel like doing that then you can let them all get together (as long as quantine is over) to match up as they want. Budgies don't mate for life and it takes 10 or more days for the bond to be forgotten and a new one started when paired up (if bonded with another before hand)

if it is over a year than I would say male.

:hap: I did say CAN not WILL. So you paid more for the grey I like. Does that mean I have good taste?

She may continue laying eggs. If she is that old and has a tumor I wouldn't risk putting her through the stress of raising a family. She will not miss the eggs and laying a few more will not be as stressful as hungry mouths to feed.

Rob I thought the bird might be known to be split lacwing but that is cinamon and ino, they are two different genes that work together. If the hen was just an ino then wouldn't the males be ino and the hens lacwings. This is why I listed them separately. If I'm wrong then sorry for the confusion.

It easier for the little bubs just learning their feet to have a flat bottom, but the normal wire cage I have used has a grate on the bottom and there was no issues with it. Of cause I could have just been lucky.

that will give plenty of room to fly around in. try and get some branches going from the front to back it help them to fly rather than walking along the branch. Getting a spray bottle is a good way to bath them, the spray isn't too hard then. Or a hose works as well if soft and turned to the spray. Some like a bath other enjoy a shower more it's different for each bird.

Grey Green Opaline split to Lacewing cock Cinnamon Grey Normal hen Green Normals/blue/cinnamon/opaline/ ino cocks Cinnamon green normals/ blue/opaline/ino cocks Grey-green normals/blue/cinnamon/opaline/ino cocks Grey-Cinnamon green normals/ blue/opaline/ino cocks Opaline Green/blue hens Opaline cinnamon Greens/blue hens Opaline Grey-Green/blue hens Opaline cinnamon Grey-Greens/blue hens Lutino hens/blue (would have opaline gene but not showing) Lacewing yellow/blue hens (would have opaline gene but not showing) I think that is all

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Sounds like you caught her at the end of her high fertile cycle. Make sure she has plenty of calcium and protein for when the babies arrive. And I would suggest at stopping her after these ones have grown up.

Also match a flecked bird to a clear cap and you can get babies with out the fleck.

Love the first one the grey male (about the middle) and the dominant pied

I was thinking the same :budgiedance:

they looks great hommer I want to steal your greygreen there.

Sorry twaddle for getting a bit indepth but talks can sometimes do that Yes Lovey may I see it backwards but I would want to use a letter for what is normal then add the recessive afterwards. See I still want to think of it as (will use N for normal since i don't know the letter used in mammals) NN for a normal animals Nc for one know to carry the albino gene and cc for an albino. Maybe it should be NNcc ?

well... I would disagree to that, Yellowfaces are part of the blue family, the yellowface and blue are multiple alleles for the same locus. Saying yellowface blue is almost a mute point. The yellowface term is not used to describe greens.

okay reading this again, I'm wondering if they are Opalines, sometimes the flecking on them is very thick. The pictures would help and it would be good to see some of your birds.

I agree with Shawna too.

http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=4266 I think those are the links you are thinking of.

your welcome

well I wouldn't say no to having him in my aviary!

and the plum of the eyes would be from the recessive pied gene. I also forgot about the cere differance in my last post. DE have th pink cere while DF spangles have blue. (males only) A green bird (DEC or Df spangle) will be all yellow with the black eyes.

I would say she is a doll. and a perfect name.

she looks great, now where are the others