*Nerwen*

Good work Juliet sound like they are going to be great family members, either with yourself or others. Don't worry about the blue in the green ones, they are most likely dark greens which show the blue more than a the light greens.

first two look female the third might be male and the last two are too young (or marked) to tell.

Macka I can show you close ups as well, this was giving the same distance (or close to) from each bird Daz- it was great to have some birds in the table show Third was fun, but I don't see it as something to boast about. Here are some close shots:

thanks Kaz, I was proud of how the last two posted behaved at the club meeting on Monday night for the table show, but it did help to see the difference between them and the other birds. But I'm happy and have plans for next year's breeding.

double factor yellowfaces get less green bleeding than a single factor which is why they look more mottled.

With some borrowed cages I thought i would snap off some shots of all of my young birds in the cages to help judge their sizes and such. First all show a couple of new ones: brother and sister, thanks again Daz Oldest of Kree (grey-green spangle) and Berry (normal Cobalt/violet) Santa (second of Kree and Berry Third oldest of Kree and Berry Youngest of Kree and Berry Only bub from round one of Kazza (M. Spangle) and Reepicheep (opaline yellowface)

does she have clipped wings? that might help with the taming of her at the moment. Millet is very helpful. then there is another type of handling/taming that isn't used much as there is a chance of over stressing the bird (which can be too much) but that is tunneling the bird in your hands on your chest, letting it climb up over and over again until they settle down, slightly shocking but many learn your not going to hurt them. (although your fingers can be hurt during the process)

waiting is the worse bit keep the fingers crossed and give them a few more days.

the heat from the days can cause her to spend a bit more time out of the box or it could even be with you wanting to check you have done so a bit more often than before.

Yes they do Sailorwolf and that might be an idea (will try and do on weekend when I have more time) Dingo- these birds are VERY young looks around 6 weeks from the way they perch and the bars on the head still strong. A YF at this age will be totally blue on the body. The blue you can see here is from the camera (remember all green birds still have blue in the feathers) You can see blue in this bub (left) however the father is a grey-green with a history of only greens.

Grey is good for size as is normal green. If you want some split birds in your flock (carrying gene for blue) then use the grey. There are no dumb questions here. The recessive gene can produce smaller birds. But a dominant/recessive paired to a recessive (or split recessive bird) can produce a Dark Eye Clear, this bird is totally Yellow (green based) or white (blue based) with black eyes not red like a Ino. Yes but keep track of the cinnamon to know which birds are split for it.

Agree Cinnamon spangle grey. Scalloped parrot was a common name for these birds when they first found/taken to England, becuase of the wing markings.

Looks good Juliet Oldest is a cobalt normal. Second pied cobalt, the last two should be green with the yellow in the wings. This means dad is carrying the blue gene.

Girl offsprings WILL be opalines (easy to sex there ) Grey and Grey-greens as others have said and a chance of blues or greys if Tweet Tweet is carrying the blue gene.

Sandy great looking birds I'm glad the beak turned out better than expected.

there does seems to be pied marks on the wings of the second baby. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=16325 This guide may help you with the resizing.

good luck. The male is a grey-green opaline so all girl babies will be opaline.

I would have said blue not grey myself from the pictures. What colour are the cheek patches of the yellowface spangle?

I'm sorry to hear about the last trip to the vet, was it an avian vet or just a normal one? The fact that she is still mindful of it after a month means it would be best for a profession to look at it. Are they tame? can you feel the leg for heat or swelling?

Thanks for that norm I was with the understanding that Clearflights didn't have to have a clear tail. It still doesn't mean this bird it's but it has a 'fault' if your following the standards.

Agree with Norm

:hap: lucky her. Norm your birds are looking great. I'm glad to hear your getting TCB offspring's for your breeding lines

He is an albino with the red eyes, and yes INO's have iris rings.

Pieds don't HAVE to have have clear tails it just depends on where the pied gene affect. Clear flight pieds the point is they appear as normal as possible besides the unmarked flight feathers. It is the M. Spangles that have to have a clear tail with normal wing markings (as a young one)

looking forward to that one Cage 1 has 3 chicks and Cage 2 has 2. Piccies to come later.