*Nerwen*

how old is this one that is seemingly not being feed? How long have they been out of the box? Have you a small cardboard box or something like it in the cage for the young ones to hide in if picked on. I think what you are saying as 'standing' is they are bullying the little ones, either away from the food or just for room.

Yes Nyos she is. Thank Terri I hadn't thought of the show type budies that are kept as pets, even knowing Julie and her two big boys (Laughing out loud).

I believe they can get the suffusion of colour like a DF spangle.

sorry lovely (Laughing out loud) The eyes look redish so there might be something of an ino even or maybe a rec. pied. okay just found this: so she isn't ino (Laughing out loud). I think she might be DEC.

it's hard to say with the flash washing out the colour alot. Might be a dilute

Mum and Dad. Mum is the show type Dad is the pet type. Some Babies: Pet type in front of a half and half budgie:

aww the poor man

Gee I blinked when I saw the spot They are looking super Karen.

Is that an offer is see Send him on down (Laughing out loud).

wow Gimpy has great colouring. He might even be a Rainbow. I'm glad you have him. They other look they have had bee caught being naughty (Laughing out loud).

Wow all these answes Lovely- glad you and Hailey enjoyed You and Kirby are right with the twin piccie. The spots are the best way but Squeaker does have a bigger head and his cere is still lighter than Marines at the moment. The pie- (Laughing out loud) the 'fruit salad' look is how I came to name Tootie ( Tootie-Fruity is her full name) Pixie- I can't believe this is the first time you have seen them grown up They are all big kids now.

most natives are safe for budges and gums are good. If your getting it from a park or anywhere in the wild give them a good clean and leave in the sun to dry before putting in the cage. If it's just fallen they are fine to use, you can tell if the branch has been on the ground for a while.

good points Bea I was just looking at the saze more than the cage layout (Laughing out loud).

She is a really cutie

very nice cage I'm not sure but I think another two could fit, only if they get some good out time.

thanks guyes Poka takes a stunning picture with his colours Berry in the head shot was trying to find a way to climb onto me :(Laughing out loud):

here Lovely : http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....95entry132595

Since Lovely asked and it's a special moment in time for her ( 6000 + posts) and the fact it's her daughters birthday as well!!! I gave in and took yet another million pictures of my birds for you all to 'aww' over Poka (for daz): Freckle: Ringo: Tootie: With Marine: and with daughter Reepi: Reepicheep: being a naughty girl!!: Squeaker: Jangles/Bangles: Berry: Echo: Thistle, Echo is behind and can you see the difference in colour!!: Pie (being a bad boy) : Twins??: Can you pick which one is Marine and which one is Squeaker? Group shots: The naughty 'Couples' !!!: Sweet Girls:

Yep the spot means he is a dominant pied not split for pied. There are some birds that can look totally normal as in no pied spots on the body and wings fully marked but have a head spot. Lovely Merlin is an example of one. It seems many Spangles get this pied gene as well so I'm starting to believe they are link or closly links on the dna strand.

:(Laughing out loud): For you and your 6000th post I'll see what I can do Lovey

Since both of them look to only a Single Factor Pied they both should have one pied gene and one normal gene. Some of the babies can get the normal gene from both parents.

I'm glad he is at last warming up to you

wow Nice to mee your Vern all your pets sound wonderful. Poor Little Gimpy I'm glad you have him. Since you have been a lurker I'm sure you know we all love photos here. Yes I know you promised some allready but a nudge doesn't get a stray (Laughing out loud). I hope to see more of you around now

:ausb: I've finished at last the sign for my avairy. I've very pleased with it, having tryed to mix in all my fave mutations/colours in bugies on one bird I thought I did well (Laughing out loud). Of cause I had to have a spangle :rip: And went for a YF1 rather than 2 to give a feel for a normal blue bird as well. No cheek patch to give a feel for Inos and the bars and cere match a grown up but the eye is a baby black one and/or recessive pied, DEC eyes. So what do you all think?

Once they babies have the fluff all over their body it's safe to handle them, this between one and two weeks. Keep the handling short when they are young. After two weeks is when I started handling them every day at least once for around 10 mins before returning them back to mum.