*Nerwen*

well the last picture of him on your hand looks normal, the others seem a bit 'lazy' the side he is leaning any sign of missing feathers? is the tail bent to one side?

She will not worry or stress over the loss of the eggs, she will continue to lay while the box is there. Just latly I had a single mother bird with fostered babies lay eggs again with no contact to a partner for two months.

:(Laughing out loud): Lovey I was please as punch to be corrected seems we all posted together in that moment but at least the point got across.

Yes shell your right, the dad will past the opaline gene to the girls and they will be opaline, while the males will carry the gene (split) just like they will carry the ino gene.

are these the bird your getting or simply close pictures of what you where told?

If they are hens, then there really isn't an issue they would either be coming out or in to breeding condition. But with males it can he hormone inbalance or worse - cancer! This is why I stated a vet trip might be a safe plan. If you got them from a pet store they normaly have a 'healthy' animal gap that mean you can recover money from health issues not caused by something you did ( ie broken wing from moving from box to cage) I feel bad bringing that up but some are able to return ill animals, but they are still so cute I would end up just caring for them I believe I've seen other birds with cere like this on this site, none of late so it does happen to others

all of my babies when learning to balance lean forwars almost and sometimes at the start on their chest. is he behaving normally otherwise? the same as the other chick? Balancing pictures:

The first is a dominant pied. The eye has a ring in it. As to the gender...well I'm not sure both seem to have a mix of both blue and brown. For the the blue looks too dark for it to match a hen out of condition and males shouldn't have any brown full stop. I would cosider getting them both seen by an avain vet.

yes they are still called throat spots :ausb: Spangles these days have a line just like the wings. When the Variety first showed up it was a clear circle (kinda like you drew on the picture.)

wow he does have a big head spot :ausb: He is a cutie. I remember one of the parents having a head spot in another thread Nyos. Does he have any other pied markings on the body or just the spot?

I could be wrong in my remembering here, but I don't think the plum colour has to show up while they are bubs. Stunning pictures yet again karen :budgiedance:

Some quick shots of Minka, Czar, Storm and Darelle and the others in the big cage Along with Ringo for a short while until she returns to Tweetaville. Cupid watching, Czar(boy), Storm (boy) and Darelle (girl) Czar's back, Minka (boy) and Tingle on the toy having a few words

I'm so gald you got to her in time She looks an angel.

:(Laughing out loud): well.... that picture and many others from that sight are very hard to tell. What lovely stated is right and normally the way to tell them. If I didn't know where this picture came from even I would be wondering wether fallow or ino. But for this comp all I really wanted was a red eyed bird.

Titan's sister ( does she have a name) looks to be opaline which can explain why he seems to have a lot of thriat spots. Great pictures Karen :hap: *stares at Zuess plotting ways to steal him* I knew I should have tried Lin's trick with the hair that day

OHH good luck Daz You don't have the move the stones and pebbles??

**copied from other thread** He is a yellow face type 2 for sure. it would help to get a picture of his back to tell more. At first glance I thought spangle then a possible dilute. But the throat spots look at full strengh which ( i think) would rule out that idea and the wing feathers just above the flight feathers don't look spangle. Any one else wondering about Texas Clearbody?

WOW I can see why you fell for the male okay I found your other post and adding relpy there.

I don't see any colouring on the wings or around the head. Spangle get what can look like the 'v' shape that opaline have becuase the markings of the wings are pale.

:(Laughing out loud): Well I'm glad the answers on the second page mean others can still try. Cindy answers are two post above :hap: Daz- and the issue with pictures on computers some see it differently, to me I see a deep brown.

cobalt spangle

Goldenface is dominate to YF. If he is only a single GF then you can get sone yf like her.

:(Laughing out loud): okay then, I was waiting to give others a guess. Answers: 1. fallow - this is a different gene to cinnamon although it gives brown markings. The red eyes is the key to telling it apart. 2. Grey-green Normal - the wings and tail are black 3. CINNAMON - (congratuations to all that picked this one) 4. Clearwing - the wings are a pale gray not brown 5. CINNAMON - This one was not as pale as the other and hard to spot so well done to all. She is also opaline which is where the body colour is the same one the wings.

All I can see at the moment is a blue spangle. Are there white feathers showing on the top of the head? (with no black)

You will only get greywings if Duke is carrying the gene ( it is recessive) He can only give a spangle gene so all the bubs will be single factor spangles.