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Violet is hard to get in a picture sun light and no flash helps with getting the colour close to real life. She is (or they not sure like you) young the bars are still right to the cere. So the feathers will darken (more like intensify) a bit with the adult plumage. Quickly putting up pictures of my flock gives the same sort of colour to the ones that violet bar Thistle (who is REALLY purple) I guess you have to ask yourself can you live with out them?

I would clean them as well but wouldn't paint. My hens while in the box will nibble and chew at the walls.

Hi LB :grbud: I'm glad you have found heaps that are helpful to you on here and felt the need to join up. Your latest one looks good, He (cere looks mostly pink to me) is a dominant pied. Names: Aussie Oscar Bennie :S I'm not that best at naming other peoples birds.

FGM - Reep is a baby of mine and she was a BIG surpirse in the nest since I didn't know the dad had the opaline gene. (and i breed him so i knew the parents) I got one like her again in the last breeding and a member here brought her.

Stunning. I agree with the DF dominant and the cinnamon. The colour she may be just a violet but I wonder if she is slate. http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/v_slate1.jpg They are a grayish blue colour.

Yes I was wondering about a dilute spangle myself but wanted to check first that the normal winged baby didn't have a clear tail which would mean a Melanistic Spangle (which is a new form of spangle starting to show up) the wings look normal but the tail is that of a spangle. If she is a dilute then she would have past this gene on to all her kids, they will not show as one but will carry the gene.

Oh now it all fits Sorry that I got confused there. They should give some interesting bubs. Normals and pieds and opaline nice.

The normal green is confusing me. A df spangle should give all spangle babies. He has a pied spot on his head which spangles also get. What does his (or her) tail look like? The first one looks a bit like my first (and only) spangle baby Connie which is owned by a friend. She is in the top name banner on the right. I wonder now if one of your 'green' parents is in fact a yellowface type 2. As they moult the yellow bleeds in to the body colour making it green. Some of them can look just like a normal green. Edit to add: Just found pictures again of your pair and neither show signs of being a yellowface. This means that you where lucky to find out they carry the blue gene

The spangle is only talking of the wing patterns. Spangle lessen the black on the wing to fine black lines. (almost looking reverse) When two spangle gene are given to an offspring it removes all markings from the body giving you a all yellow (green) or all white (blue) bird. The colour is another factor in the birds and is controls on another gene. Green is the dominant gene. A green bird can carry the blue gene and give that gene to it's young, when two blue genes are given you get a blue bird. The last one (yellow wings, blue body) sounds like a yellowface blue. This is a blue gene that doesn't remove ALL the yellow from the bird (only works part of the way) It is recessive to green so a green bird can carry it but it is dominant to the normal whiteface blue. I hope that helps a bit Getting into the yellowface gene can be confusing.

I think I might have this worked out I'm going to keep Thistle and Squeaker together. They are starting to bond out in the aviary which is good to see. (squeaker was flirting with his sister Reep for ages) I'm thinking Poka with Ringo - he flirts so well I think he could flirt over her bossiness Kree with Connie - The spangle sister of Ringo and Marine that my friend has. She said if I wanted to use her I could and see seems lonely. So I can try spangle to spangle That gives me three pairs to have breeding at the same time to swap for fosters and such. Anyone see something I missed?

Sorry to here that 2 got away. Put out flyer's and check pounds and vets near you in case someone turned them (or one) in. If your show bird had a ring on his foot that can be used to identify him.

He is nice I agree with Lovey (and my first guess) with Grey Opaline and I think Cinnamon as well, the darker second picture makes the wings look brown.

It is okay to take a hen to the vet while set up in the breeders cage. I panicked when I needed to take a laying hen to mine and asked here but all went smoothly and after the trip she settled easily back to her nest and successfully laid the next egg that afternoon. It is better to get her check now and fine out it is nothing rather than putting her through the added stress of laying and possibly raising a family while ill. If no eggs have appeared and the two have not bonded fully you can easily pull them out of the cage. Although I would leave them separate from the rest of the flock in case what she has is infectious.

Spangles are my fave Mutation

Hi and welcome There are other photo hosting sites around as well. A search on Google would give idea. But I know of Image shack and another called Village Photos Sebby sounds interesting and I hope you get the photo thing worked out soon. but to help for now I'm wondering about Lacewing.

Sorry about that Julie. Ino is the shortened from meaning both Lutino and Albino It is referring to the actually gene. You need a blue gene and the ino gene to get an albino. Look Here for more shortened Mutation terms

She would be getting some on her beak and tongue while she happily destroys it. If she is ripping it apart too fast you could try a calcium bell they seem to take longer to chew.

Hi Julie and welcome to the boards. It sounds like you have a nice collection of colours there. Have you signed on with a club to start showing budgies and this is your start? or are you just wanting a flock of colourful birds to enjoy? Do you know how old these eggs are and if she was sitting on them before? the move to the new location is most likely the reason why she isn't sitting on them now. Looking at your questions below it seems a bit early for you to be caring for eggs and babies just yet and would suggest removing eggs and box from site to give you time to learn more and set up your aviary (and breeding area) also it will give you time to know your new birds and if they are hiding any illness, which the stress of a new home can bring out. 1. Yes you can change partners for both males and females, give a 7-10 day period of breaking up a pair to adding a new partner. 2. Ino is a sex linked trait, which means males need to get two of the genes to show. Another ino cock or one that you know is slpit for ino (carrying it) will give you a mix of Ino males and female offspring. Keep in mind hen can not carry a sex linked trait. 3. From the information you have given us- No. But one of the males could be split for it. If you got the birds from the breeder s/he would have been able to tell you that. Cinnamon is another sex linked trait. 4. It is different for each hen. on average 5-6 per clutch. 5. it take on average 18 days for an egg to hatch, depending on how well the mother sat on them and other factors it can take a few days longer.

Hello John Interesting user name there, do you like spangles?? As to your question since no background of the birds are given there are many possible hidden genes that could appear but just using what we know you will get: sky blue normals cobalt normals

nice, the beard one made me giggle. as well as beards they love curly hair!

If these are the parents of Rocky then he can't be opaline. Hens can not carry the gene and for a male to show as opaline they need two of the gene. All the hens from that clutch would be opalines. Also Cobalt to skyblue has only one dark factor to gave to all the young and mauve needs two dark factors. So either you missed something on the parents or your wrong about this fellow. Can you tell me the colour of his tail? and any chance of getting a look at the parents? If he was in my aviary I would look at matching him to Berry (visual violet) or Reepicheep (yellowface 2 opaline) Actually since there is Opaline in his history i would go with Reepi to get more.

wow thanks for that daz

well that would make sense

Yes I remember the joys if digging through shavings trying to find a tiny ring

taming takes time and it sounds like your doing well. pushing on his belly to step up is the right thing to do. Use millet like sailor stated, most budgie will do almost anything for a bit of that.