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Karen very good. This is something that all breeders should know how to do. It comes in handy when the need to medicate or feed your sick bird. It is always best to have a vet show you how to do it first. A few things not said in that video. 1. Make sure that you finger or thumb is not on the plunger at any time except when you are ready to administer the formula. 2. Make sure that the crop needle goes into the crop and not the wind pipe. There is little or no effort needed when the needle goes down. If you feel a restriction, remove the needle and reposition it. 3. Make sure the crop needle is in the crop by 90% before administering the formula. .....and do it slowly. There is no need to hurry. The bird is in little or no discomfort if done right.

Thats great information Throwback. One interesting point. Vitamin C is one of only a few vitamins that Budgies don't need. Though I do feed mine on Oranges and they love it.

I have some PVC Saddles for Electrical Conduit screwed to the wall. The branches slide in and out. No problems.

Sorry to hear the bad news Mark.. Our thoughts are with you.

Very Good Kaz.

Budgerigars like nothing better than to get into the leaves. No only does it give them something to do, it's good for them. There are many Vitamins, Minerals and trace elements that are found in Gum Leaves, Bark and and Branches. Any variety is good but be sure to wash it to get rid of any Wild bird droppings and inscets that will infest your Aviaries.

Dark Eye Clears are from the mating of Continental Clear Flights to Recessive Pieds. The Dark Eye Clear carries one dominant gene and two Recessive genes. Expectation Table Clearflighted (sf) × Recessive Pied 50% Clearflighted/Recessive Pied 50% Normal/Recessive Pied Clearflighted (sf)/Recessive Pied × Recessive Pied 25% Recessive Pied 25% Normal/Recessive Pied 25% Clearflighted (sf)/Recessive Pied 25% Dark-eyed Clears Clearflighted(df) × Recessive pied 100% Clearflighted (sf)/Recessive Pied Dark-eyed Clear × Recessive Pied 50% Dark-eyed Clear 50% Recessive Pied Dark-eyed Clear (sf) × Dark-eyed Clear (sf) 50% Dark-eyed Clear (sf) 25% Recessive Pied 25% Dark-eyed Clear (df) Dark-eyed Clear (sf) × Clearflighted (df) 50% Dark-eyed Clear (sf) 50% Dark-eyed Clear (df) Dark-eyed Clear (sf) × dec (df)/Recessive Pied 25% Dark-eyed Clear (sf) 25% Dark-eyed Clear (df) 25% Clearflighted (sf)/Recessive Pied 25% Clearflighted (df)/Recessive Pied Dark-eyed Clear (sf) × Clearflighted (df)/Recessive Pied 12.5% Dark-eyed Clear (df) 25% Dark-eyed Clear (sf) 12.5% Recessive Pied 12.5% Clearflighted (df)/Recessive Pied 25% Clearflighted (sf)/Recessive Pied 12.5% Normal/Recessive Pied So as you can see it's not easy to breed DECs. Black Eye Self is a recessive variety.

Moderator’s Message to user Any time you decide to take birds that are mistreated you must make sure that you are prepared yourself to help. It's a bad feeling seeing birds mistreated and you want to help but think about your abilities first. Neat I am sure you will do well. Any time you receive birds in this condition think Worms Cocidiosis Megbacteria (AGY) Malnutrition.

I've just come across this post.. There has in the past been bad decission regarding the breeding of some varieties. In England, there is no Clearwings. What the english term a clear wing is more like a grey wing. This is because they have changed the Standard to suit the bird they were breeding. We have just about lost the Australian Banded Dominant Pied as it is a difficult bird to breed and there has not been enough support for it in the past. The Black Eyed Self is quickly replacing the Dark Eyed Clear. I am starting to breed the Dark Eyed Clear in hope to keep this variety going. It is a shame to see some of the beautiful varieties being lost due to others being more popular.

Neat your a saint :hap: The chicks sound younger than the breeder has said. If you keep the Parents together in the breeding cage with the chicks and start crop feeding the chicks could get strong enough to demand food from the Parents. It is common to put an old cock in the nursery to help younger chicks get a start. Budgerigars have a tendency to help each other. I have seen older chicks feed younger chicks. All the best.

It looks like white french as Norm said. Jap is darker and panicum is a more reder/orangy colour.

Thanks Norm and Ravengypsy I have Pm'd you with my thoughts. It is good people having a go. I'll post the answers at the end of easter. :hap:

Very Good Liv... i have PM'd you the results.

Not Bad either Libby. I have PM'd you with your results.

Well you got the first one wrong... You are far from being an Idiot. i'll pm you with how you went.

Test Your Knowledge of Genetics 1) Can a recessive pied be bred from a pair of dominant pieds? 2) Can a dominant pied be bred from a pair of recessive pieds? 3) There are no known dominant varieties with red eyes. Is this statement true or false? 4) Is it possible for a bird to be visually carrying the color gray, violet, dark factor, sex-linked, dominant and recessive traits all at the same time? 5) The yellow face on a yellow face blue is considered to be a dominant trait. What is the white face on a green considered to be? A. also a dominant trait B. does not exist C. a recessive trait D. a sex-linked trait 6) Name four varieties for each of the following. Dominant Recessive Sex-linked 7) What are the only ways to breed a sex-linked cock? Mark all that apply. A. hen has to be normal, cock has to be normal B. hen has to be normal, cock has to be split C. hen has to be normal, cock had to be sex-linked D. hen has to be split, cock has to be normal E. hen has to be split, cock has to be split F. hen has to be split, cock has to be sex-linked G. hen has to be sex-linked, cock has to be normal H. hen has to be sex-linked, cock has to be split I. hen has to be sex-linked, cock has to be sex-linked 8) When a bird is said to be masking something, what does that mean? Also, give an example. A. split for another color or variety B. preventing the true visual color or variety to be seen C. dominant for large spots on a deep mask 9) What dominant varieties change appearance when they have two genes for the trait? 10) What does it mean when a bird is said to be split? A. two colors present as in a pied B. not visible on the bird but carrying one gene for another color or variety C. two colors/varieties present, dividing the bird down the middle; halfsider

High Level of protein is required to grow new feathers.

Green is the only colour that grey will mix with. So Ikon is right.

1999 had a purple ring so that could be right.

Way to go Kaz.. Looks like we are slipping into the dry season again. We should be getting 140mm this month but have only had 10mm ..

....as related to a show bird. Pet birds are in between.

BEC / DEC are from pair recessive Pieds to Contenential Clear Flights. DEC is a from of Double Factor Recessive Pied. What are They? Dark-Eyed Clears, from their name, are budgerigars of clear yellow or white, free from any markings and colour pigmentation. This purity of colour covers the entire body and wings. They resemble the Lutinos and Albinos except in the eye. They share a common ground with Recessive Pieds, insofar as they have the solid black eye without the white iris ring; hence at times they are referred to as a "Black-Eyed Clears". Like the Lutino and Albino the DEC can mask any colour. For instance, a Yellow DEC could be in fact, an Olive Green DEC or a Light Green DEC. The shade of yellow in this case will be deeper and richer in the Olive than in that of the Light Green. Genetics It took a while to understand the gene that controlled their production and by the fifties they were popular, as were the Continental Clearflights. It was found that when pairing a Clearflight with a Recessive Pied, half of the young would be Clearflights and the other half Normals, with all the young split for Recessive Pied. It was also found that by mating a Clearflight split for Recessive Pied back to a Recessive Pied, a certain percentage of the young will be DEC. These Clears are not really Pieds in appearance but are the Recessive Pied form of the Continental Clearflight, or more concisely "Clearflighted Recessive Pied". It took me a while to understand their genetical breeding behaviour as written material on them was rather scarce. Those DEC's are in fact, birds that carry in their genetical make-up, one dominant gene (gene for Clearflight) and two recessive genes (genes for the Recessive Pied). Depending on which partner they are paired with, one type of gene will predominate and various varieties will be produced. For example, if a DEC is paired to a Recessive Pied, then the recessive genes will act and the pairing will be as pairing two birds of recessive genes or two Recessive Pieds together. This type of pairing will produce DEC's and Recessive Pieds of equal numbers, theoretically. The confusion arises when pairing a DEC with a normal (non-pied or split for Recessive Pied); we then produce the Clearflights. In this pairing we will not produce DEC's even though we started with one. In fact, the pairing will produce Clearflights and normals all split for Recessive Pied. What happens in this type of pairing is that the dominant Clearflight gene will act and the pairing is just like a Dominant Pied to a normal. Because the DEC had two recessive genes in hidden form, then these genes will continue to be present in the progeny in a hidden form as well, hence all the progeny will be split for Recessive Pied. Yet, when pairing a DEC with a Clearflight split Recessive Pied, the dominant gene on both sides will act and the pairing is similar to Dominant Pied × Dominant Pied. This pairing will produce DEC, Clearflight and normal; both of the latter being split for Recessive Pied because of the recessive genes of the DEC, and because of the presence of the recessive gene on both sides, Recessive Pieds will appear as well. It is interesting to see how the dominant and recessive genes of the DEC act depending on the partner. Because of the presence of a dominant gene in the DEC make-up, this gene can be present in a single or double dosage, visually both alike. The Pied genes act by eliminating the pigment melanin from the Pied patches. It seems that neither the recessive nor the dominant Pied genes can on their own, eliminate all the pigment, but two recessive and one dominant are sufficient to give complete elimination. by Ghalib Al-Nasser

G'Day Una hope you and the birds survived the wet season.. Good to have you back. :budgiedance:

Wild Budgies are light green with yellow and black wing markings. Eyes black with a white iris ring. The lengths is approx 4 1/2 inches from crown to tip of tail. weight is approx 20 to 25 grams. Compare that to a top show bird that is 10 1/2 inches from crown to tip of tail and weighs in from 80 to 100 grams and you can see the difference.

96%.... But i've taken it before.