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Yes thats about what the vet said. He suggested to lean them down for breeding and build them up for show. His expression was breed them lean mean and ***** and show them when they are contented.

No I have weight my big Birds. ie Ash, Cinnamon and Bluey. I would be interested in what Ash weighs. It was agreed last night at the meeting that a bird weighing 60 - 80grams would not have a chance at winning in a show. It would be too skinny. Hath what do your top birds weigh in at?

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Pixie Did the vet say what casper's weight was? You may fine you have a very fit (not fat) budgie?

A New development has been going on with this disease. New Name Aviarian Gastric Yeast Avian Gastric Yeast (megabacteriosis) Avian gastric yeast (AGY) or Megabacteria as they were once named are an unclassified fungal microorganism ranging from 1.5-3.0?m in width to 20-50?m in length (Figure 2). They are a yeast, but the term megabacteria is well established in common use. AGY are associated with weight-loss in budgerigars and to a lesser extent lovebirds, but have also been found in many other psittacine and passerine birds including ostriches. The organism inhabits the lumen of the mucosal glands of the proventriculus and can be seen in faeces and or crop washes. Most commonly the disease is a dysbacteriosis rather than an inflammation of the proventriculus. Presumably the clinical signs are related to impaired gastric secretion and dysfunction. The infection is present in wild birds. Clinical signs of infection include regurgitation, vomiting, yellow pasty droppings, melaena, dehydration and severe weight loss. At necropsy the lesions include yellow-white thickening of the proventricular mucosa caused by dysplastic plaques (Figure 3). Sometimes acute ulceration of the proventricular-ventricular junction results in haematemesis and in severe case full thickness ulceration results in haemorrhage and localised peritonitis. The organism cannot be cultured and a diagnosis depends upon examining wet-preparations or Gram-stained smears of faeces or crop washes. Histopathology of the proventricular-ventricular junction is also useful. AGY infection is difficult to treat because amphotericin B given orally (100mg/kg by gavage BID 10 days) has proven to be the only effective treatment. However, there is some evidence of resistance to this treatment but this may reflect the severity of disease in individual birds rather than drug failure. The cheaper, oral preparations of this agent (Fungilin, MegabacS ) are become increasingly difficult to source. The IV formulations (administered orally) are very expensive on a flock basis. Itraconazole, fluconazole and ketaconazole are being evaluated as alternatives to amphotericin B. Link to the information by DR SHANE RAIDAL

graemesmith what a great Set up. I am now envious. Note: Topic Moved to correct location

I have just joined a Budgergar Club here in Brisbane last night. At the meeting we had a guest Vetinarian Spreaker. He was very Good. He spoke about the diets, and common deseases that the budgerigars get. One think I was interested in was his comment on the size of Budgies. An average weight Pet bird is roughly 55 gms. A wild Budgie in top condition is about 35gms. A show Budgie is about 85 to 110 gms. He did say that he had a Show Budgie that was presented to him for a check up at 185gms.... That is 5 1/4 wild budgies stuffed in to one body.... So how heavy is your budgie? George is 55gms. Greeny is 40gms. Chirpy is 35gms. Tiny is 42gms.

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Mix just enough to make it crumbly. I mix it with the vegies. Some like it some don't....picky birds

I am at the moment guessing both males. Chirpy is now inside with George and Angle and is so tame. He will jump straight onto your fingure. My son has had him in his room all day. I caught Bluey and Spangle chassing Tiny this afternoon and decised that it was time he came out. He fledge over a week ago and I've been watching him with his eating ability. Both Chirpy and Tiny are on daily weighing.

Ah now I am starting to get it. Thank Nerwen They are beauties Lady. Is that a clearwing or Spangle in the photos?

Whats the next ones Nerwen, so I can have a try.

As Bea and Nerwen put it. When did they lay their first Clutch? Has the chicks fedged (come out of the nest)? I sthis the next set of eggs?

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I think I have worked out how you are calling them. What I would Call a Blue Mutant II You would call a Type I Yellow Face. (Yellow Face 1) What I would Call a Parblue Mutant I you would call a Type II Yellow Face. (Yellow Face 2) What I would Call a Parblue Mutant II you would call a Type II Golden Face. Am I close :nest:

Shell It is commonly called a Type II Yellow Faced Spangle. It genotype is a Parblue I Spangle.

Thanks Rainbow. Well put. Also well done Gil it's great to hear the improvements of the birds.

Sorry my fingure have just recovered. Oh Sorry Hows this Cock being Recessive Pied, Grey, Clearwing, Blue Mutant 2 Hen being Opaline, Recessive Pied, Violet, Clearwing, Blue Mutant 1 Result 50% Cock - Recessive Pied, Clearwing, Creamface (Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1), (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Opaline 50% Hen - Recessive Pied, Clearwing, Creamface (Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1), (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey Thats a lot simpler. Explainations Read Creamface for Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1 I use Bird Tracker you can find it here.

Thanks Lin i'll reset the clock Edit: I rest the clock and put the first 3 eggs as the ones that were brocken and it has the 1st November as the 1st hatch date. Thats 2 weeks yesterday. ................................................................................ ............................. 1st November Update. An other egg has been thrown from the nest. I now have two eggs. That should hatch by Sunday... I hope.

a Golden Face (parblue II) Nerwen ?

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Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet 0.195% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.195% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.39% Hen - Recessive Pied, Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Violet, Split Clearwing 0.39% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, Split Clearwing 0.39% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.39% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.195% Hen - Recessive Pied, Clearwing, Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey 0.195% Hen - Recessive Pied, Clearwing, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey 0.195% Hen - Recessive Pied, Clearwing, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.195% Hen - Recessive Pied, Clearwing, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.195% Hen - Recessive Pied, Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey 0.195% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey 0.195% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.195% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.39% Hen - Recessive Pied, Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Clearwing 0.39% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Clearwing 0.39% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.39% Hen - Recessive Pied, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.195% Hen - Clearwing, Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1 0.195% Hen - Clearwing 0.195% Hen - Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.195% Hen - Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.195% Hen - Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1 0.195% Hen - Normal Green 0.195% Hen - Normal Green, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.195% Hen - Normal Green, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.39% Hen - Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, Split Clearwing 0.39% Hen - Normal Green, Split Clearwing 0.39% Hen - Normal Green, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.39% Hen - Normal Green, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.195% Hen - Clearwing, Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Grey 0.195% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Grey 0.195% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Grey, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.195% Hen - 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Normal Green, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - Normal Green, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.39% Hen - Normal Green, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.78% Hen - Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing 0.78% Hen - Normal Green, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing 0.78% Hen - Normal Green, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.78% Hen - Normal Green, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.39% Hen - Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.39% Hen - (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.78% Hen - Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing 0.78% Hen - (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing 0.78% Hen - (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.78% Hen - (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.39% Hen - Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.39% Hen - (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.78% Hen - Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing 0.78% Hen - (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing 0.78% Hen - (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.78% Hen - (SF) Violet, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.39% Hen - Clearwing, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.39% Hen - Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied 0.39% Hen - (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.39% Hen - (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Blue Mutant 1 0.78% Hen - Blue Mutant 2Blue Mutant 1, (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing 0.78% Hen - (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing 0.78% Hen - (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 2 0.78% Hen - (SF) Violet, (SF) Grey, Split Recessive Pied, Split Clearwing, Split Blue Mutant 1 Wow thats a Lot of eggs......

Spangle is something else. I got home expecting to see no eggs and I found she had laid her 6th egg in this clutch. So now I am back up to 3. I don't know what egs were broken so I don't know when these ones will hatch?

Yes lin that's what I am hoping. Just got a call from the wife. one egg thrown out and broken and one eaten in the nest. The one thrown out was also all yoke. The eaten one was ???? I now don't know which ones they are. Clutch of five is now two

But doesn't the blue also have four levels. Blue I (Sky Blue) Blue II (YF Sky Blue) Parblue I (YF) Parblue II(Golden Face)

Nerwen isn't a Golden face a type II and a Yellow Face a type I?