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in side/ outside aviary/ cage information is needed im not that smart separate from others put white clean paper down under bird on floor wait to see what her poo is like if its got blood in it you need to see vet could be any of a few things may be contagious but may not be your not giving much info are their males could she have had a egg get stuck and crush are their breeding boxes has she just layed causing small bleed from first egg being layed so on need info

okay so im not exactly sure how this works, as you said i think you said i cant go over your question to review it so if im off track sorry i think you said clearbody is dominant to the ino and you would be correct in saying this however ino cock to a lacewing hen gives you dont quote me but i think from memory ino split lacewing cocks and lacewing hens so in your case i think im not 100 percent a clearbody cock to a lacewing hen would give you giving the lacewing is par ino as in cinnamon ino in normal sex linked birds to produce cocks the breeder must have sex linked cock x sex linked hen or a normal split sexlinked cock x a sex linked hen that is a particular sex link gene on both sides of cock and hen this is normally the case with cinnamons, albinos and lutinos but not so when you use a lacewing cock to one these hens a yellow lacewing cock to a lutino hen will give you lacewing hens , as a rule of the sexlinkage but the cock birds breed will be lutino split lacewing im not sure but i think thats what will happen with the clearbody to lacewing hen clearbody and lacewing hens,.... and.... normal /cinnamon/clearbody cocks and ....cinnamon/lacewing cocks hope that helps and makes sense but in saying this you dont want to put cinnamon in your clearbodys so i would steer right away from this breeding as the clearbody hens from next generation will have a small chance of being some cinnamon as any normal will be split clearbody split cinnamon if im right i tryed to calculate it but im not to good with the calculator this is what it said so Genetic Calculator 1.3 Species: Budgerigars Melopsittacus undulatus - result 1.0 green /pallid(Tex.clearbody) x 0.1 ino cinnamon % from all 1.0 50.0% 1.0 green /ino-cinnamon 50.0% 1.0 green pallid(Tex.clearbody)Ino /cinnamon % from all 0.1 50.0% 0.1 green 50.0% 0.1 green pallid(Tex.clearbody) i have no clue what all that means lol i think i just made a whole mess rip where are you lol pmsl save me im in the ..................

JB Confusion reigns supreme again Its NEVILLE not NORM and we also have RIP as another genetics "master" too hee hee see kaz we soooooooooo need to be able to review posts or well be calling every body .............you......mate..........darl...........chap as it is i try not to post as my memory's that bad that i need to re veiw what im saying or confusion sets in and i go on a whole new tandjin but drift soooooooo far off subject

Wow Gb congrats on your 7th place with your lacewing at the UBC shield. That is a great effort because they say you are doing well if you place in the top 20 and extremely well in the top 10. sorry dean and thank you splat i was gob smacked i must of seemed like what ever on the day but it wasnt till i got home i relized wow i should be stocked ;)and i am

do you have other birds are the together in an aviary or inside blood in urine /poo can be a sign of illness vet would be best place to ask

wow thats good as im so happy for you , i still haven't gotten a trophy or ribbon yet my first show i placed very well and my worst result was third took ten birds out of them all ten birds all came home with a placing only one bird was a given as was only one of its type their and then i just got 7th place with my lacewing hen ubc at the ubc shields just gone so im pretty stocked about that no trophy or not i can see my birds are coming along very nicely its great feeling to see you should be sooooooooooooooooo happy with your results dean

if your in vic or weathers more muggy than hot right now if you got the birds for Christmas and the aviary id say be okay spesh if their aviary breed birds if they were bred inside a breeding room well thats different and id wait till end feb early march to bring them home as will be just nice then do you have a description of your aviary is it open to weather or closed with one side open :?

oh ratzy your so encouraging lol im sorry paper princess about your loss i have had a budgie return after 3 days so leave a cage out with seed good luck i will be thinking of him

their are so many budgie people on facey that probably wouldn't need one theirs sooooooooooo many different show bird pages and budgie pages most of these most the bird people are on i try not to add bird people anymore as when i just added them all when they requested it i had thousands of friends yet the birds were the only linkage so i deleted most now i just look at their pics read what others say and if theirs a good one ill join like showbirds you be the judge( pick em to death )where you put up your bird and other breeders tell you what their lacking or compliment your bird its fun but you need to really want the truth as their tough lol theirs even Bangladesh budgies society most will add you if you request friend ship and many will help you with stuff its really nice to be-able to talk to people whom also breed and see their birds and way easy to upload pics i stick mainly to fb now regarding most things bird as you get more personal response and make friends with others and its great to see the birds some these people are producing theirs even budgies in Afghanistan and turkey who would of thunk it theirs a whole world of budgie sights and information out their now in all different languages to some clubs are just more enthusiastic than others i dont think our club has a web sight but would be great o promote them in that way if only i knew how to actually make one id be quiet happy to sadly i cant even work out my own web sight lol so its good point you have jim i think its down to money and time as the free sights are limited

i believe , i see , i hear ,i know but in speaking out about it has only ever landed me in hospital and put on drugs to repress my knowledge like kaz from young age i have always known things i was 6 when i relized i was diffrent i guess with me i was to open in a way and as i did not have anyone to explain things i was just classed as very imagenitive my 16 year old son and 18 year old son two know things my older boy not as open as my younger one whom is like me having difficultys understanding what is going on hes just lucky he has me or he may ended down the road of repressive drugs and misdiagnoses also took me 9 years to be free from the governments clasp and a free spirit again my experiences have not always been good and was a time i believed i was the reason for peoples deaths i shut myself off from people for years because of it even though i knew it really had nothing to do with me just as i could do nothing to stop these deaths no matter how i tried i felt at fault and from 15 to 19 felt a lot of fault and guilt it is hard for me as when im out in public i feel lots of different emotions and vibes im very emphic and my mood changes with whom ever im aeound depending on their mood this makes it hard to stay at one basic level although when im out i cant seem to shut up either from nerves or the uncompilable feeling i get just feeling so open and vulnerable however im a whole different person when im alone or with my family or loved ones most my visions are through dreams if unstoppable(as in death related ) sometimes though i will just be walking along street and feel need to change direction i cant even stop myself its like im literally someone else driving my brain these are times where now i dont try and fight the feeling or erge as these are the times where i know im actually going to be able to help someone or save them from a injury big or small the weird bit is i never know what it is or who so its like im all of a sudden on full alert ears eyes and aware of everything and one around me this does not happen often only around few times a year but then i try not to go anywhere much anymore worst thing i had to do is my very close friend passed in a car accident but i know more to it than even her family also another close friend on a bike he also had more to his death than was told to be true but sometimes things are best unsaid the reason phycs can not tell you things or give you what you want is as they are all intuned with diffrent abilitys in my belief true ones dont work for money although some people are very talented at getting info from you that they then use in the reading so sometimes they feel as if they knew some stuff sometimes we are so blocked off that we miss the little signs i know if im upset or stressed i can never help myself as my spirit is low and i cant hear my intuition telling me its these times i turn to guidance i dont know where it actually comes from but i do know that so i know im not confusing it from a coincidence i ask for a certain thing it doesnt always mean i will listen even if i get my ask and at times i wish i was not in charge of my self as i could have stopped a big amount of heart ache if i had of listened to what i asked example i was at beach i asked that when i go for a walk in ten minits that in this certain stretch of beach only i find a shell shaped like a heart a small one that it be shaped from wear of the salt water and it be made of that perl stuff that the nz people make their pretty shell stuff from i also said that if i picture it up and it is remainding whole than i should give this new love of mine a chance but if it broke we would never get past the first year although have good time together i found what i asked to the t it was really freaky as i wasnt even looking at the time i just looked over out of my paths veiw their it was so small yet stuck right out amungest all others i asked that if when i showed my partner that if i placed it in his hand and it broke in half that this was a sighn he was to break my heart ( it did he did ) and he didnt even touch it just held his hand out i was shown many things and reasons we should never of been more than passing faces in a crowd but i turned off to all of them as i wanted to believe he was for me i ignored all sighns warnings that this person was but a dangerous not only am i paying for it now but my children as well so all i can say is we don't see what we dont want to believe weather we see it or not no matter how real or obvious subtle it is we wont see it unless were open to excepting it for what it is its easier to close off to things than to have to find an explanation or a reason for them as it is easier to medicate someone than to try and understand them nothing made me believe i was born knowing i just didnt know till i knew

yes but will do your head in unless you know genetics to the degree of a zoologist here it is http://www.gencalc.com/gen/eng_genc.php?sp=0Budg have fun dont get a head ache lol and it really helps if you got rips personal assistance ha ha ha or basically like in my case your $#@%&%* im trying to have lessons do you want to join LOL

For the cock (1.0) you need to click on the following radio buttons: Dark - blue chromosome section bl.goldenface - in the visual column blue - on the split column dark - button on the right in the visual column For the hen (0.1) click on the following radio buttons: Dark - blue chromosome section dark - button on the right in the visual column blue - button in visual column Structural section violet - button on the right in the visual column Sex-linked section opaline - there is only one button, select it Then calculate. love you rip :}if you were a bloke id marry ya hee hee

yes she did do well nice pied also hey matt welcome im in gippsland club right on other side of the world from you hee hee but thought id let you know that just remember one thing well these things lol , any lacewing is a good lacewing and never look a good green down the nose or a older bird for that matter not in your first year starting out anyway take more risk with an older cock but a quality looking laying older hen can really bring you forward money is a a curse the more you pay the less likely you are to breed it or keep it alive and never ever buy a bird unless you really really drool as if its just a bird you wont use it and it will just sit their wasting and eating seed breed the bird first then variety try bring in birds with the desired look you want to achieve and a smaller bird with good feather is worth 1ooo thank yous good luck thats just some the things ive learn t enjoy and ill see you around the traps also

thats preety good sight he has unless hes hearing is extended like blind people (heightened i should say )

@ rip (she knows what im on about ) i may as make you work lol so can you put up in your expet way the calculation of a pairing for me for that calculator thing the cock single factor gf so its cobalt so thats, blu , gf and violet opaline so opaline and sf violet is that right then calculate

well he said bred together so i asumed a hen and a cock but good question as if two hens or two cocks nothing lol lol pmsl good question shannon

you get lutino and albino budgies if you breed lutino to albino but the lutino will be light and not good variety and the albino will be suffused unless the albino is masking Grey then the albinos may come out nice in color

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well with all the combination's of pieds these days anythings possible but this bird has a band across chest of the right diameter of a dom pied clear-flight or dutch pieds as i know them have white bellow chest then small part under tail and around onto back( of colour) and small patch of colour under chin but banding is really not their its more white chest with colour under chin or full body colour with just clear long flights not secondary's and small patch on head these are def dom pieds not clear flights or as i said composition pies a combination of the three pieds rec dom and clearflight Genetics of Clearflight Pied Summary: Clearflight Pied - dominant Normal - recessive The inheritance pattern of clearflight pied is the same as dominant pied. However, clearflight pied is unrelated to either dominant pied or recessive pied, and a budgie can have any combination of the three pieds at the same time. There are only two alleles for clearflight pied: the normal gene and the clearflight pied gene. The clearflight pied gene is completely dominant to the recessive normal gene. This means that a single-factor clearflight pied looks the same as the double-factor clearflight pied. Here, we will represent the clearflight pied gene as "P" and the normal gene as "p". Therefore there are three possible genetic combinations for any budgie: * pp - Two normal genes (homozygous) resulting in a normal budgie. * Pp - One clearflight pied gene and one normal gene (heterozygous) resulting in a visually clearflight pied budgie that is single-factor. * PP - Two clearflight pied genes (homozygous) resulting in a visually clearflight pied budgie that is double-factor. As you can see, it only takes one clearflight pied gene for a budgie to display the clearflight pied traits. This makes this is an easy variety to breed. Below are some punnet square examples of pairings. A normal budgie and a single-factor clearflight pied ppXPp p p P Pp Pp p Pp Pp Offspring Phenotype Results: 50% Clearflight Pied 50% Normal Offspring Genotype Results: 50% Heterozygous (Pp) 50% Homozygous recessive (pp) A normal budgie and a double-factor clearflight pied ppXPP p p P Pp Pp P Pp Pp Offspring Phenotype Results: 100% Clearflight Pied Offspring Genotype Results: 100% Heterozygous (Pp) Two single-factor clearflight pieds PpXPp P p P PP Pp p Pp pp Offspring Phenotype Results: 75% Clearflight Pied 25% Normal Offspring Genotype Results: 50% Heterozygous (Pp) 25% Homozygous dominant (PP) 25% Homozygous recessive (pp) A single factor clearflight pied budgie and a double factor clearflight pied budgie PpXPP P p P PP Pp P PP Pp Offspring Phenotype Results: 100% Clearflight Pied Offspring Genotype Results: 50% Homozygous dominant (PP) 50% Heterozygous (Pp)

dads a dom pied as is son son is spangle dom pied clear flights only have just that clear flights the secondary's will be fully coloured in a clear flight if their not dom their composite pieds

hi welcome home

i think thats not enough but thats me id be inclined to put half a d cup so about 4 to 5 table spoons per bird thats if their are not breeding

the normal looking chicks will also breed you all yf chicks when paired to a normal but im sure you knew that Thanks Dean and GB I thought the cock was a goldenface okay, so they are both mutant 1. In a different nest I have yellowface cock and normal sky hen, they have 1 yellowface chick and 3 normal. I thought yellow face was dominate over normal blue. well unless we see him we wouldnt know or is this the bird i saw on fb as if he has blue under his wings along the top to under his wing pit :} then he is golden face and half chicks will be single facxtor like him and other half will be normal if you paired him to a yf of any other mutancy ( lol i know rips going to kill me for that )then thats a whole new world again one i dont dear touch on but rip knows well about :}

the normal looking chicks will also breed you all yf chicks when paired to a normal but im sure you knew that