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i think baby one is from the dark green and the m2yf blue hen yes two greys can produce a dark green but mosty blue if not grey babys so i think its safe bet to say not theirs but then never really know and being hen wont have the splits to fall back on i say one as its more likly a dark green n a sky produce dark green chick than the greys good luck hun thats all i can sayi always work it out even if it takes till second molt hope you do too

as kaz said but freezing oranges and fruit that is freezable works well just cut it into peaces freeze then serv

it is oh well i have no clue how to empty :{ i thought it was empty :{ ill empty it or try :{

my i ask are you sure its the birds not a mouse problem then id try what nubbly said to see if its cock or hen so you can know for sure next time she may be a great hen and good mum but cock is wanting to mate her again so killing chicks good luck id only risk the one chick no more move other eggs to other nests where you know their reliable

in responce about the perethiam thingy i myself have not used one but am going to be sooni have a friend whom placed one in their flight /breeding room and said they were amazed at what bugs and stuff not to mention red mites dead on the top of breeding boxes floor extra its had no efects on their birds so far so im myself going to be useing on very soon im just going to inquire as to which one they said again as in brand name ill get back to you after new year as soon as i find out what one

wow how wrong was i i didnt een see the difrents in the birds just looked cinn to me but when i looded 4 times i can see the first one is actually grey wing and the sky cock bird m i thought was just bad pics why i dont normally give mutation guesses with pictures glad you stood up dean and corrected me i only tried as no one even had responded sorry who evers post this was sorry also that i cant scroll back through post to see whom you were :{ really wish you guys could fix that i hate the fact that you cant scroll back through posts previous to one your writing

well its been a while since i have ben on nubbly your birds are still looking great even with all the issues your still doing great i say i believe chookys / hen should do you good she was a nice looking girl and pt has some really nice birds and his fellows are in my veiw beautiful if i breed fellows id be doing my best to obtain his stock when possible

if you send me your number in pm i can call you it may be easier to chat as i can explain way better :} i have it somewhere but would take a month to find it im sure lol as my bird books are in such a mess of late :{

i also was thinking how vibrant and healthy they look :} good luck when you do decide to breed i to am hesitant to breed although weather is **** may change but have paired 6 pairs and got back up plan if heat does hit :}

Just keep one thing in mind when buying birds,a birds value should be based on it's visual appearance only, no matter who bred it or who it's related to. I agree with this statement from PJI. A bird is worth no more than it looks, no matter what its blood or its breeder. Too many people buy birds based on breeder and pay more than the birds value. Some breeders like to talk a lot "This bird's from my nat line, blar blar blar". But when it comes down to it, they may only ever have had one bird from that line actually go to a nats and win, but after that nothing. These are breeders who usually win from buying top line blood for stupid prices, pair them together and pop out good birds, but when it comes down to it, the birds are not really their work. A good breeder will have at least 5 to 10 years, even more, behind them, and shelves full of trophy's, ribbons etc. If there is none of that be wary. Also remember in the end you need to breed what you find attractive. Try to buy from either champion level breeders or open breeders. As Kaz said, a good cock is worth its weight in gold, so if offered a older one never decline if only very cheep or free as it could be your start- more so than the ones you payed well for. Stick to breeders whom use similar blood lines, your birds are bound to click better than if they all use random different breeders, even if they all buy from top guys in the show rings. And remember, your second generation is always better than you first, so dont cull your first year birds. Use them, and then if not up to scratch with what they produce then cull, not before, as they my hold the right genetics yet be lesser themselves. It's all time and knowing your birds. Only buy hens with forward blow, as with your cocks, as cocks with good blow that hold it flat on their head pass this on to offspring. It's not the size of the blow that counts, it's how it's used. If a cock doesnt hold it well, he will pass this on, unless you put him with a hen who holds her frontal well. Birds should always sit tall and off perch, dont buy slouchers or hens with legs spread apart- it's bull that they lay better. That's just a line. Their chicks are not good because their legs are wide. It's their shoulders you want wide, not their a r s e. If you can get someone who shows birds to come with you before you buy, even if as Kaz said you join a club before you buy anything, you will be amazed what you learn. Also, as Dean said, go to all the shows possible. I do this. You meet heaps of people and get to see the true winners( not the odd winning birds only.) It's these people whom you need to talk to :} good luck

how deeps your box ?? i cant seem to get any mice although they cant get to breeding room or flights i still hate the little rouges as i have ducks n stuff i know their their and my new dog is not a mouser my fault i trainned her not to eat the ginnipigs :} n :{

THEY ARE ALL NORMAL IN VARIETY ALTHOUGH THE FIRST ONE IS A CINNAMON NORMAL VIOLET HEN THE OTHERS ARE NOT CINNAMON BUT OF NORMAL VARIETY ALSO COBALT HEN ,SKY BLUE COCK AND VIOLET COCK

MY BELIEF EXACTLY :}

I am thinking some thing to add to aviary: - Dish for small parrot -Dish for grit, YES GRIT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE BIRDS LOTS OF CHICKS GET FEED LESS AS NO GRIT IN CABINETS ON OFFER SO ID PUT IN CABINETS ALSO MADE MASSIVE CHANGE TO MY YOUNGSTERS FOOD INTAKE AND PAIRS FEEDING AS IT HELPS CROP MILK PRODUCTION - dish for hulled oats More veggies fresh every other day or so SOUNDS BRILLIANT Cabinets: Finger draw with grit,GOOD one with small parrot and one with hulled oats. ID USE THE D CUPPS FOR THIS I will then buy some mason jar feeders ( I have been needing them for a while!) THEY ARE GREAT AS YOU CAN SEE WHO IS EATTING WELL AND WHOM MAY BE A BIT OFF ALSO WHEN NEW FOOD IS NEEDED and when I serve soft food putting it into their old d-cup feeders)I WENT TO OP SHOP GOT A WHOLE LOAD OF SMALL SAUCERS FOR THIS I TAKE THEM OUT AND WASH NIGHTLY (WELL THAT WAS PLAN I DO GET BIT LAZY AT TIMES SO ONLY BUY WHAT YOU NEED OR YOU WILL END UP WITH DIRTY SAUCERS EVERYWHERE ;[) Getting oranges and lemons, and giving in the middle of the week between soft food. SOUNDS GOOD A VERY GOOD CHEEP SAFE SOFT FOOD THATS NO TIME OR MESS IS AS FOLLOWS ONE TO TWO CARROTS GRATED ONE TO TWO BOILED EGGS BOILED FOR TEN MINS AND TWO TO THREE WEET BIX BY LOW BRAND OR EVEN WHOLEMEAL IF YOU LIKE THEN ADD CARROTS ,EGGS SHELL AND ALL TO WEET BIX AND CRUSH TOGETHER TILL BLENDED WELL THEN ONE TO TWO TABLE SPOONS PER CABINET ITS ALL YOU NEED AND TAKES 10 MINITS A DAY THATS IT AS YOU DO REST WHILE EGGS ARE BOILING AND SERVE WARM TAKING AWAY AT END OF THE DAY NO MORE HAVING TO SOKE SEEDS WHICH IF YOU DO FOR TO LONG OR IF SEED IS A SLIGHT BIT AFFECTED BY MOULD OR PENICILLIN(UN VISIBLE TO OUR EYES ) CAN ACTUALLY GIVE YOUR BIRDS FOOD POISONING Thanks for the info GB! How does my plan sound? SOUNDS GREAT HUN GOOD LUCK Anyone else have any idea's/opinions?IM SURE THEY IS SOME ONE ELSE WITH IDEAS FOR YOU HUN :}AND YOUR WELCOMED BY WAY MY SCOOP IS EQUIVALENT TO TWO CUPS :}

im having lots of trouble making my way around the new set up :{ im sure i will adventually get it but its why im not here much i also cant find topics once their gone so even in i make one and someone responds i cant find it so i hate that also i cant read what was posted before me if i want to respond like i useto so now i hate responding incase i mix something up ive gone to another sight although not as friendly or fun as here i can work my way around and it has good info also but would be here daily if i could work it all out and not bother going their for my dayly bird talk fix

thats great she trusts you so from now on its all smooth sailing oh very pretty bird and also from me welcome to forum :}

hi squeek well it was advised to me by a well established breeder at nat levels to give carrots daily oranges daily a mix of small parrot 3 scoops to 2 scoops of hulled Otes (however i keep mine in separate dishes as birds eat some seeds more depending on month of year ) beet root daily and silver beet 3 days a week amongst other fresh veg and greens and i .. i give blend of breeders finch mix and breeders budgie half half blend although i just changed it two days ago to one half of breeders canary mix as it has flax and Niger and linseed in it as well as millet (white ) and white canary i put the same blend of breeders budgie (my clubs mix ) half /half i also place red pannican in a separate dish in flights also they get silver beet every 3 days and seed grasses and milk thistle when ever it grows up fresh in yard thats almost everyday they get small shell grit and a chunk of 007 horse salt mineral block (it is completely safe and they love it ) i also would steer clear of the chook feed i did give red hen layer pellets for 6 months but i had a lot of young birds between 6 months in 8 months die with no reason since i stopped it i have had none die i do give thorow horse chaff though and i also was told chicken feeds hold steroids which are not labeled (a friends brother works in the industry and warned me about this true or not i dont know ) all my aviary birds and breeders get same all year round i toss in the odd bolid eggs just cut in half shell in all and a raw beetroot here in their corn on cob now n then when on special i dont ever give soked foods i do put linseed in their seed once a month on tea spoon per half a 4 liter bucket i dont do more than they will eat that day and i mix it in with another half a bucket of seed with out it it sits for fifteen mins before serving they have cuttle bone and calcium blocks and iodine blocks in breeding cages along with pvm (pigon vite mineral powder ) in a finger draw also in finger draw egg in biskit and seaweed (powdered) a tray of grit and chunk of 007 and a sep dish of hulled Otes pannican and a mason jar feeder of my seed mix carrot dayly orange dayly a slice of lemmon weekly dayly seed grass or silver beet in cabinets fresh water no additives im going to try adding soluvite d and trace minerals (from vetta farmin cabinets only )next season

you will get ......... normal , opaline cinnamon , normal cinnamons,normal opalines and if you put to a cin hen you can get all the same but with a chance of cinnamon cocks also in these mutations (opaline cinnamon,cinnamon ) and if its also opaline a chance two get opaline cocks as well in cinnamon , op cin and opaline ;]

They are links GB. If you click on the photos they come up bigger oh thanks kaz , lol for showing my natural hair colour :} i wasnt sure how i could prove it ,...lol

my goodness rip i need a micky scope to see them lol can you post bigger i truley can not see any thing just two cute birdys

yep loving the yf sky boy the grey also but my fav is the sky not cause of colour either the hens got great color dave i say a good pick up good luck with them okay whats with the instent predictable text it prodicted i said the wrong this lol okay this is just for my amusment only no one will have cliue what im on but :} so disr gar ths bit im jus sen if its for al words of if it was just with the three leters i first wrote picture m okay lol sorry dave i had to see :} okay it was just for ..p , i , c it made it say picture MMM considering i spelt pick wrong and it put picture their instead gr thats got to suck didnt work with the other things i wrote what is wif that ???????

then you better wait till july as im only pairing my albinos in march so.......... but i may be able to help you get a clearbody split albino or a lute / clearbody if your interested they are really really nice and i dont think i have seen much better if i had the room to breed clearbodys i would but im putting dilute into my albinos so .... i cant mix dilute n clearbody :{ maybe in a few years time

if your colany breeding your birds as the other post sugests then this chick could be anybodys the budgies will not just stick to the one patner in a colany situation you may get a odd one here n their but i do agree that the cock above is a spangle id say cinnamon most probably in the violet grouping , violet sky or cobalt violet sorry i was talking about the father nev already awnsered your other question its a dark green spangle with brilliant markings

its well desirved some of your birds are rather grand looking