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Hey GB, How are your birds doing today? Any news back from the Vet? well i just got the call its not chlamydia(parra what ever) seems bird that was autopsy only fault found was meggabac i don't know what to think now, as at first i was told that the amount found was not enough to kill the bird that all birds hold it now im told the small amount of canker found in the one bird and the megga in the dead bird are my causes i find this rather hard to believe but they are vets so..... well everything was treated for canker and i was told to give probac 2 times a week and apple cider vin 2 times a week to keep the megga at bay they apparently have no cocci so birds got nice plate of veg and am going to just cross my fingers as to what went down doesn't happen again and thanks nubbly for standing up for my decision to medicate the birds :rofl: your right i do not like to unless needed and something was needed at time as for being laughed at by other more knowledgeable breeders i really don't care as i know instead of bouncing a bird i at least make an effort to save it weather its going to cost me 100ds or not my birds arnt just a ribbon and a trophy to me or something to give me a name their my love and my life they hold me a lot of people wouldn't understand that but i don't really care here is my hen from your cock she did turn out to be lutino i am going to put her back with her unkle when shes old enough she has some growing to do look at her feet these were taken on a hot day soshes not sitting nicley as she usually does here is their veggies they weren't to inthuzed over them like normal here is the lutes little sister elly-phant and dad trying to chat up a grey green hen....who may just be a perfict partner for him when i think about it dad mum and their other baby in the middle and i got 2 lacewings with my opaline light green cock i took picture before of chicks but they still only around 10 days old

did you look at some your other birds under beaks ..did they look simula

BEWARE, GB, It needs to be the cleaning type, not the sit on the couch with a beer type! They are rare. don't worry about me mate i know what type im after and just happened s their all extincted or married or not able to handle me or extincted or in hiding as for couch potatoes i have a man management sceem...lol 1..he must have his own home to return to 2..he must be able to cope well with a month in the bush with bare essentials and be resourceful enough to think of ways to productively use his brain 3.. he must be able to malt- i- task 4..have a drivers license that is current..not lost or on probation for losing it extra (i dont care if he doesn't own a car just must retain a license ) 5..be an Australian citizen....(eg im not marring anyone to get them into the country ..lol they can jump on a boat for that they would have better luck, lol 6...have a straightforward approach to life 7,be sensible,humorous,witty and occasionally cynical 8.. be directive but not stern , respect and appreciate,my efforts to maintain them as a partner with all their needs 9, can not be aregent or obnoxious,yet must be proud and have direction in sight and knolage they will achive 10....last but not least , a smile on their face :yes: not much i know ... :rofl: oh i forgot the important one 11.... must do house work .. :rofl: its a 45 year plan and im only in my 36th year G.B. YOU FORGOT TO ADD MUST LOVE BUDGIES!!! again.... nar... they dont need to love budgies just know that THEY WILL ALWAYS COME FIRST :rofl: I HAVE A STICKER IT SAYS I BELIEVE IN GOOD MEN , UNICORNS AND OTHER MYTHICAL CREATURES :rofl: its my fav on amongst many others but getting back to the bird mill issue its something that's always going to be around so long as theirs pet shops around in my opinion as most of these birds are sold to them so its a never ending cycle

i am kaz i really used my brain to remember what i was taught when i was younger ....it hurt but i must have got it right a bit as their are some really nice bubbys coming through as you said of course i dont see me benching anything yet only at club nights but this alone will give me an idea of where i place my skills amongst the others and we have some good breeders in our club with some lovely birds and i have some beautiful birds from who i believe in my eyes to be knowing what they are doing i figure this way i don't need to pay hundreds of dollars for good breed birds and can achieve some good stock for myself reasonably quick so i can start my own line of breed birds i can then add the really good birds later but if possible from the breeders whom im dealing with now even if it means to buy them at actions rather than through them themselves but that will all be a while off yet im uploading some more pics now and going to take some of my new chick once camera is charged

thank you splat ,my whole aim in my birds is to try and get back the true show fetchers the clear Opaline being one of them i have a few nice Opaline birds she has the clearest mantel of them all ,here is a smaller hen her mantel isnt that bad either and as far as stock goes will be a very useful hen when of age she is end of November chick on right is my mauve hen chick sister to the grey boy see the water drinker to the left their the new improver drinker system okay here is one my july breed birds a opaline grey hen ..her name is dark vadder you may remember her her on left this is not a chick but this is my new dom pied boy he is next to one of my chicks so im happy with their size and they are yet to grow mauve hen again i really did think this hen was grey but she was very mave looking when i returned her to baby flight so shes going to deepen in colour i can see im very pleased about it im very happy with some of my birds breed more good rezults than bad so i must be doing something right this next lot out should say something as i actually paired with thought this lot of chicks was still me just playing around to see who is who and who has what in their genetics ...so far i have 5 albinos and 3 lacewing chicks im pleased with that result and am now grateful i fostered some eggs and let the healthiest keep sitting as vet advised i could do if birds looked good they were all doxcyed up intill chicks hatching so they all got good two half weeks of it and when chicks are three weeks im to do another two weeks all chicks are well i will get pics of them next they are still pinky stage up to one week

okay try again a small opaline hen but she has potential its hidden but its their her back view a grey cock bird and his mauve sister behind him the grey cock a beautiful Opaline out last week he is now back in the baby flight with the other dec out chicks i let them have a days fly if you loved the normal grey green ren this ones even cuter hes also possibly split lacewing her is elly -phant shes from october clutches remember she hasnt changed much the little grey green norm again this is my lutino hen she is much taller and longer that this just the cock next to her gaver her a quick peck and she squatted as i took the picture the grey boy again this is his mauve sister she looks grey but today i relized she was mauve

with no more to say here they are grey green normal cock opaline grey spangle hen okay photo bucket has done a spaz on me so heres these for now rest will have to wait sorry :rofl:

well you can name mine then when i post the dec out nest chicks soon

this is fantastic news and just goes to show vet even at time yiu think its to far is worth it or knowledgeable people in you case great news mate im afraid mine tested nil for canker but were treated anyway

are you sure it was detatched just most parrot type birds have a gap between bottom beak and its normal when they die the skin sinks making the hollow look worse i cant see from that picture so but look at one your live birds and see if this is simula i would hate you to lose more as you think it was starvation how long he been looking bad if t was sudden id cheak it again for tears blood what ever sounds weird thats all

hay their nice to meet you a bit its not fun having alerges

i havent been beatting around any bushes i took ten random birds in when i first went thats 10 out of 45 birds plus the dead hen But that was a couple of weeks ago It now appears that they certainly did not possibly have psittacosis and the recent treatment of doxy will have knocked them about. I am wondering whether your Vet is the kind that only responds to birds he has actually seen at his clinic .... ? :rofl: well i have faith that the vet knows what their on about but im not happy i been waitting so long it shouldn't happen with something so delicate as birds i could lose birds if i doxcy or if i dont so.... i prefer not to for now when i hear from vet i will revise my position i decided not to give sulfa sd either for now as i may make matters worse as i will cover anything left possibly that the vet may be able to find im just going to sit for now

i thought the bottom of an old plug, you know the side that actually plugs the old troth's but decided that not a gold nugget was a closer answer

dreamer nothing but a dreamer ....da da da da dada .oh dreamer

i did not see your post macka untill now i was hopeful for your opinion as i value it a lot my birds did seem well untill second week of treatment this is the first time i have treated the birds mate and all advised by vets im with you i never ever worried about wet floors or concrete wind or rain i breed show birds when i was 12 and i had a dirt floor i use to deliberately wet the left over seed once tipped out on to ground as so it could grow and be eaten my breeding cages were still separate cabinets yet they were in my small 6 by four foot open wire aviary with a small loft for birds to hid behind if windy or cold i feed a seed diet with added silver beet or beetroot and a tea spoon of cod liver to their seed one a week and never once had a sick bird (yes these were show birds breed by a man called burnie he was from dandenong area and quiet successful although burnnie was not his real name just what people called him he gave my father my first stock along with alot of informative advice not only about bird management but genetics and what makes a good show bird he was a very kind happy man and well noted in the bird association unfortunately i do not know if he has passed or not as he would be quiet old now and its ashamed that i never knew what become of him the fact is though that i have always believed people fussed to much over their birds then i had abird tested for cocci and the vet said to move aviry and pave the floor so i did still birds ill so then he said to treat with baycox and put up wind protection so i did this still sick birds but this time he doesn't see anything wrong with them gives a bill of clean health then a month later another dead and he says that theirs nothing wrong he doesn't know whats up my birds looked healthiest he seen for a while so i put it down to just a dude bird then a month on another bird down with fitz again no departmental illness shows up the only thing my birds were not treated for over the period of seeing this vet was psittacosis so when 2 months later two birds go down in a very bad way i never ever seen in my life i go to the best respected avian vet for his opinion and i get told that they dont know whats up but psittacosis is only option left so ..test sent off and im sent home to trat birds till rezults come back only no results in the two week time frame birds were fine mate but this third week of treatment they all drab and fluffed as i said some with pooy bums clogged some had bad diarrhea others fine alot of tail bobbing which was not at first happening i have rang vet a few times but get same thing every time keep treating them till we say well i say im scared im going to lose them if i do and lose them if i dont i really am at a lose and ,macka believe me it wont ever get like this again i will be doing the routine things worm and ivomectin like i was and thats it the survival of the fittest from now on in oh and wet floor and wind well im going to build another loft and be don with it then crossed from then on in

i havent been beatting around any bushes i took ten random birds in when i first went thats 10 out of 45 birds plus the dead hen vet did poo smears for birds and crop swabs nothing was found but the dead hen had an enlarged liver and one cock had starting signs of canker in which all were treated for regardless if i was to take in more birds it would be a insult to the vet in question in my book suggesting they are not thura enough in which i thought she was really its all stuffed up as the results were not persuade in which they now are being i was more worryed if i stopped and they had parra then i was interfering with treatment but if they dont im risking my birds healt in the long run if i stopped then id have to start the full treatment again and their already half way their round abouts but if i dont stop i may lose a minority of birds ...realistically i may if i stop also but its a chance im going to take as i feel the cause is something other why would i lose only two birds and not more in this way if it was psittacosis i would expect to lose at least 15 to 14 birds at least if something that severe would i not

How would I have time for it all ? Easy....my husband does the housework So that is your secret!!! Finnie goes to look for additional husband..... lol if thats the answer count me in mabe its time for a man in my life :rofl: BEWARE, GB, It needs to be the cleaning type, not the sit on the couch with a beer type! :rofl: They are rare. don't worry about me mate i know what type im after and just happened s their all extincted or married or not able to handle me or extincted or in hiding as for couch potatoes i have a man management sceem...lol 1..he must have his own home to return to 2..he must be able to cope well with a month in the bush with bare essentials and be resourceful enough to think of ways to productively use his brain 3.. he must be able to malt- i- task 4..have a drivers license that is current..not lost or on probation for losing it extra (i dont care if he doesn't own a car just must retain a license ) 5..be an Australian citizen....(eg im not marring anyone to get them into the country ..lol they can jump on a boat for that they would have better luck, lol 6...have a straightforward approach to life 7,be sensible,humorous,witty and occasionally cynical 8.. be directive but not stern , respect and appreciate,my efforts to maintain them as a partner with all their needs 9, can not be aregent or obnoxious,yet must be proud and have direction in sight and knolage they will achive 10....last but not least , a smile on their face not much i know ... :rofl: :rofl: oh i forgot the important one 11.... must do house work .. :yes: its a 45 year plan and im only in my 36th year

this is a really good read mind you very long i fell asleep twice reading it and had to start certain parts over but im not one for reading long things even if its informative and i want to read it my body just shuts down and bam im asleep ....lol but if you like to read its worth the time

if they were hand reared then im guessing five weeks at oldest make sure they are eating enough not just eating

How would I have time for it all ? Easy....my husband does the housework So that is your secret!!! :rofl: Finnie goes to look for additional husband..... :rofl: :rofl: lol if thats the answer count me in mabe its time for a man in my life

Your a tough woman Elly no i say a smart woman lol

sorry not one for heart throbs i prefer the men with carizma,and carector like um..... franky j holden but really gay is not a refernce to homosexuals to me its a referance to gay as in i just dont like it

can a seed diet consisting of millet mainly cause thin birds ??? palaniam seed and millet is the main seed in my birds diet i use a mix of half budgie seed mix (a club mix ) consists of millit white and canery seed very small amount of hulled otes and i think thats it im not sure i have asked whats in it but no real reply its got no label so , but i 20 kilo of finch mix to 20 kilo of budgies mix the finch mix is mainly palaniam seeds, black millets, white millets and black canary seed wheat seeds and a few others im not sure of but their relished is their such a thing as not enough of one or the other seeds can anyone state a good mix of necessary seeds for a all year round diet dont worry about adding hulled otes as i do that when winter comes and to breeders when chicks hatch can any one name the seeds and their nutritional reasons eg vitamins they supply to our birds thanks gb

ha ha well i thought Egor :raincloud: but the kid said no Errol ...lol thats gay also for a boy in general lol