Derek

Final results at the end of day two. Victoria 456 points New South Wales 452 points South Queensland 430 points Western Australia 341 points Tasmania 244 points Nth & Central Queensland 197 points South Australia 190 points

Normal size on the beaches up here is around 8 to 12 inches although I did find one once that was eighteen inches long and nearly two inches thick. Those big ones are good for crushing into powder. When fishing off the coast they catch them up to two feet long sometimes but the bone in them is much smaller than the animal itself.

Hi and welcome. Derek

Hi and welcome. Derek

I lived at Beachmere for about ten years and used to be able to collect more than I ever needed from along the shoreline there. I think you will find it is there all the time but a lot of people collect it and sell it.Best time is right after a good south easterly wind first thing in the morning before the crowds arrive.Derek Nope, not true. We actually catch them off the coast here.

Day One Results - http://www.anbc.iinet.net.au/downloads/200...ay1_Results.pdf Victoria 234 points South Queensland 212 points New South Wales 211 points Western Australia 180 points Tasmania 115 points Nth & Central Queensland 105 points South Australia 98 points

This one LINK HERE

Link doesnt work Dave.

I reckon there will be a few drinkies going down in the Lucas house tonight.

Here are the latest results from day one of the show. Our club secretary, Rob Lucas, took out the Dominant Pied Class. http://www.anbc.iinet.net.au/downloads/200...ay1_Results.pdf South Queensland is running second on overall points. Derek

Congratulations. You picked it up at a good price as well. Derek

Jade Pine Rivers Budgerigar Society is your nearest club http://www.prbsinc.websyte.com.au/

Hi Jade and welcome to the forum. Derek

I reckon they might be. I hope all of our budgies from Queensland got there safe. Derek

Hi Rose and welcome to the forum. I hope you don't receive to much conflicting advice here.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. That makes it easier to understand In the past 24 hours I have had to move my Camp Oven Cooking Forum to a new host server so haven't had a chance to do to much on here. Just read it in fact

Just to give some iddea of size the normal wild budgerigar is about 4.5 inches long (tahts tip to tail) whereas I have seen show budgies at 8.5 inches.

That confuses me more then. What would be the outcome of a double factor dom pied cock and a double factor spangle hen.

So is the double factor only present in cock birds ??

Sorry Libby but I still don't understand it. Back in the 60's when I went to school genes were something you wore. or was that jeans. See I don't know the difference. Is a factor a dominant gene? If so a double factor bird has two dominant genes therefore all it's offspring will not be split. If that is correct then a single factor bird has only one dominant gene and it's offspring can be split to another variety but still carry the one dominant gene. I've got a headache.

Norm I was reading in the minutes of the last ANBC Meeting that they have now approved a powder coated wire front in a chrome color.

I am having trouble getting my head around this term as well. Can someone explain to me what a factor is. Simply what does the term mean. For example I know a Lutino is a yellow bird with pink eyes. Thats simple. However I cannot get a grasp of the single/double factor terminology. Help an old bloke out here.

You have a Budgerigar Society in Caboolture http://www.bird4life.com/cbs/ Why don't you contact them and talk to a few of their members about budgies. They meet out at the showgrounds second Tuesday of every month at 7.30 pm.

Heard the other day that there are moves afoot to change the size of show cages. Talking about making them not as deep. Not sure on the truth of it but understand they have already done it in the UK. Thats what I was told anyway.