*libby*

I love that bird too Isn't she soo proud of herself LOL Great pics

Well this afternoon on my daily inspection of my birds and their cabinets I came to find Shiloh (Kaz's sky DF YF1 TCB) to be on the floor of the cabinet and not looking too good at all. Instantly since i knew she already had 5 eggs I knew it was Egg binding. I got her out of the cabinet, got Bob to foster the eggs and brang her inside to aid her. By this time it was already 7:30. Bob and i took her to the bathroom, plucked the feathers from around her vent for clear acces and got the oil ready and turned the hot taps on to make the room hot and humid. Her colour was bad and since i hadn't been out to check the birds since this morning when she was fine I checked her crop which was empty, I gave her a crop feed and started to add oil to her vent. Her bum "sucked" it up which started to make me feel a bit better and her poop was still able to pass out as she pooped a few times also. Now normally I'd get her to the avian vet or Ranford vet who also deal with egg binding, but it was too late to do so and the local 24/7 animal hospital doesn't deal with bird matters. So I decided to try the massaging it out myself as the vets had done to my other hens. It worked, i massaged her stomach for a while and aided the egg to pass properly through her pelvis. I hooked a finger under it when it was through to stop it going back in, with minor pressure to make sure it was all her work. We then took her to the bedroom and got her comfortable on a towel and helped her get into birdy "birthing position" with her tail up allowing her vent to do the work, after 15 or so minutes of my constant pressure, oil and massaging she began to push. Eventually we saw the tiniest spec of an egg begin to emerge from her vent but surrounded in some kind of yellow mebrane with minor blood vessels in it. I paniced a bit and worried it was her organs coming out with it, but then realised if I can see the egg in it it wasn't an actual organ per say, but the passage the egg comes out of. I kept the pressure, although looked away and eventually she pushed the egg all the way out and the surrounding membranes sucked back inside her vent. Immediatly she hopped up and was acting very chirpy. She's now in the incubator with seed and water and chirping her box off to come out. Now I normally say don't try these ways of self treating animals at home, but tonight i had no other option but to do it. I was paranoid it wouldn't work out as she's an older hen and sooo concerned that her insides were going to come out as i've heard freak stories before, but I knew she had to pass the egg or was going to die with it in her so took it into my own hands. I'm very glad I did and didn't push the limits to harm the bird, although when you see the pictures you'll probably think she looks in pain, but she stayed calm and collected through the whole process. In the end the egg turned out to be a soft shelled on and she is now officially retired Alls well that ends well. P.s. sorry for the long story, but I thought you'd all like to see and know how the whole thing happened. Unfortunatly photobucket won't let me edit the photo's size, so i'll add them all as links. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/1libby/P3133050.jpg - When she first came in, didn't even care being on my hand. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/1libby/P3133048.jpg - Her swollen and bruised vent http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/1libby/P3133053.jpg - adding oil to her vent http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/1libby/P3133063.jpg - Finger under egg and egg just showing through membranes http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/1libby/P3133064.jpg - Egg starting to protrude more http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/1libby/P3133067.jpg - a millisecond before finally popping out http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/1libby/P3133074.jpg - Her vent afterwards http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/1libby/P3133073.jpg - Shiloh and her soft egg all better now. Also I'd just like to add a disclaimer that this is not my normal choice nor should anyone take it into their own hands unless they have to as I did. If you do have to however make sure not to use excessive pressure and rupture the egg. Although it looks like I pushed her all egg forcing was done by Shiloh herself, i simply elevated the egg to the point she was comfortable to contract at. I'd never recommend anyone do this and to be frank I didn't want to or will never do it again unless forced.

Howd'y and Welcome aboard

Could always be a creamino also people Just depends on the "type" of yellow it is Justy A picture would help us all confirm if it's creamino or Lutino

Absoloutly gorgeous, I want a frankie!

Heya Jenene, I was MIA for a little bit also but am now back Welcome, again :fear

Congratulations :fear

Agreed, light green opaline spangle :bluebudgie:

It's underbitten, it can sometimes be corrected by clipping the lower mandible, but i'd suggest you go to a vet to get it corrected if you've not done it before. I wouldn't say it's infected, the green looks like it's been eating poop to me. I noticed this is your first post, welcome to the board :bluebudgie:

I can't see any scaley mite burrows or build up yet, and the flaking of the beak isn't related to it, that's just beak "shedding" which is natural. If you're worried i'd put a small amount of oil over his cere and see how you go, but there's no definate scaley signs there. Usually they'll get a hard build up line on the bottom of the cere. His cere looks nice and clean, maybe it's a little dry, but I wouldn't say it's scaley

Gorgeous birds! Love the pictures A few i'd like to have in there

Oh no Kaz :S i hope they come back and you're able to catch them!

Looking forward to seeing gorgeous bubs Renee Good luck!

Unfortunatly I don't think it is a violet albino I can see throat spots, which means fallow or lacewing With obviously some other factors in there.

Definatly a young cock i'd say, but i'd disagree, it definatly is a yf recessive, it's yellow is too light to be a green bird.

Give it time She should notice it if it's only a newborn. i wouldn't worry too much about over feeding, but underfeeding is a problem. I have an article on here to a mothers crop milk substitute if she's not fed it by this evening.

I don't beleive it is if the food is solid enough, but yet again, stranger things have happened. I've had chicks fed really well to the point of inability to move, but i've never had one over fed. Is there a large gap between the ages of the chicks? Sometimes a hen will ignore a young chick over the louder calls of older babies.

Oh my gosh! i totally want a rat now, how adorable is that! Mum would kill me though, she hates rodents :S It's bad enough she calls my birds "rats with wings" hahaha Gorgeous photo's, thanks for sharing

I have a 12 yr old in my aviary who gets everything other birds have, they may require more levels but essentially i'm sure it's all the same stuff the younger birds have. I don't give him any more or any less If anything he's more active than my younger birds and always has the best looking boyfriends and lots of budgie bonking (yes he's gay)

Heya Karyn I pmed ya back

Hey there and welcome :sad:

:hap: :hap:

Just had my visit from Dave and Kaz He's sooo lovely!!!! And absoloutly hilarious! Both Bob and I very much so enjoyed the visit!

Wow i hate to say this as it's very cliche... but my sign is spot on :S

Very gorgeous! Congrats on the new bub!