**KAZ**

I agree with you Friday night would be a poor choice for meetings.

I agree with Elly

found baby photos of HONCHO

Dont you find it interesting thet there is still molasses in it but it no longer is on the list of ingredients ? It makes you wonder what else can be in these kinds of things but not appear on the packet. I didnt get to see my stock feed supplier today ...I will be going tomorrow morning.

The hardest time you will ever show your birds is the first time you show them

Hans was limited by the fact he would not show on a Sunday as a Christian. He did show his birds on Saturdays. Now he has no birds and no aviary due to ill health. Showing your birds may give you a form of satisfaction that you are heading in the right direction with the choices you are making in pairing up your birds.

NO.....one of the parents did....I expect it was the hen as she is laying again ( one egg so far ) and Frannie probably got back in the nestbox. So I moved them out.

Big Blue also fathered two grey green chicks before this clutch. Cock going through his first moult and hen going through her moult too

Moved the babies out of the breeder cage. Frannie has been bitten by somneone in there....a slight scar across her beak, some bleeding. They are in a kindie cage together now. FRANNIE and MAC

Looks really good, plenty of room for them to exercise. I like your idea of putting rings on the perches for them to play with, haven't seen that before. I'll have to go through what's left of the kids baby toys and see if I can find something similar for my baby cage. Go to a $2 shop and look for brightly colored plastic bangles Pack of 6 for $2

I think Heathrow, Renee and Daryl may have misunderstood my point. Read my post above Guys Not sure about misunderstanding Kaz, I think perhaps you have softened your stance a little. This is your statement that I think people are responding to: There will always be some form of misunderstanding in the written word. I emphasise my original intent in that statement of the word ADDITION which places the context of what I was saying in its correct perspective. Great topic though and many things unearthed....stands to have more investigation and additional facts added to the mix so we are all better informed.

Was cleaning day today in the flights.....do it twice a week if I can. I use a scraper on a handle for the floor. Easy since the concrete floor is so smooth. A few quicks scrapes with that, then I move the industrial vacuum cleaner in and vacuum up the seed debris and droppings that have been scraped into a pile. My scraper

Love the grey You had better trying showing a few birds next year Dave

I assume east coast as the ph number seems to be a sydney one.

Looking good Dave. I like the one above best, I think she'll turn out pretty nice. Thanks Darryl, I like her too. I think she looks good now, so I am hoping that she will continue to grow into a good looking chick. Not a clear mantle so she will not win show awards, but as part of a breeding line she is very good. She will lose a few points for markings but if she has everything else going for her she could still end up on the top bench

Are you absolutely sure about the sexes ? as it sounds like female to female behaviour.

I think Heathrow, Renee and Daryl may have misunderstood my point. Read my post above Guys

I havn't contributed to the forum for some time, but i will for this topic. I totally support the above statement. For each breeder that is supplementing with very high protein levels, I could name the same amount of top show breeders who aren't. I know a top breeder, on a par with Cec Gearing who doesnt use any softfood or high protein additives. What he does use, are a wide range of fruit and vegatables to supplement his normal seed. I also think the debate, greatly underestimates the ability of breeders, to select and use correctly the very best bloodlines available. Like Daryl states feeding plays a part in the birds reaching ther potential ONLY. Meaning genetics has a far bigger role to play in becoming a TOP breeder. Well hasnt this gone off an a tangent My point is and has alweays been that EXTRAS, all kinds of them are good for our birds. VARIETY is good for our birds. PROTEIN is good for our birds. My point is not that I believe that top breeders improvements are solely due to additional protein......I am trying to say the additional protein methods being employed by some breeders I know personally are IMPROVING their birds. It would be OBVIOUS that YES their breeding is improving their birds too. BUT....................I am hearing from the very breeders themselves who I refer to that the ADDITIONAL PROTEIN is what they are saying has made a huge difference.

on the cage so you walk around and when you see what you like you just write your bidder number and the amount on it and move on.

Teach them that soft food is good......you can start by using some quick cooking dry porridge oats mixed with some budgie starter and water. You probably dont need the whey protein right now anyway, but you should start giving soft food or soaked seed.

Closed in that section today so I have only the one door going into the aviary and now I can finish the inner wall lining and move the breeding cages around in there and set it out better

Dilute

No....thats NOVICE. Junior is related to your age bracket.

Well junior relates to the age of the club member who is in the Junior section. It isnt about what the bird looks like at all. A junior can enter any calibre of bird. As juniors not a lot is expected of them and also there isnt a lot of competition either in most cases. Just put your bird in, dont worry too much and learn from the experience PS you wont make a fool of yourself. Club members will assist you