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(Laughing out loud)....im confused at this: "I would throw the egg on the ground 9 time out of 10 the egg would crack whe it hit the ground my birds loved it u should have seen them swabble of the egg (Laughing out loud)."... (Laughing out loud) Kirby

(Laughing out loud)..I posted that link!!!...its great eh? yes, 18 days, the eggs are laid at intervals of 2 days. They hatch in order in which they were laid.... ps-post pics of parents... Kirby

GORGEOUS!... They are soo ugly, that they are INSANELY ADORABLE!!..(Laughing out loud). I have to agree with you on the colours....good luck with them! [ps-Ariels 1st egg is not hatching...so im pretty sure it wont, or any of them for that matter , but i was expecting this to happen since i didnt see them mate...] Kirby

there..i fixed those links.... Kirby

shes a female.... *i think* Kirby

So id get ones that look like: - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/Ner...kle-pie-two.jpg - http://www.lisashea.com/petinfo/keets/nazo_sq.jpg - http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/sephbabys12.jpeg - http://www.gotpetsonline.com/pictures-gall...erigar-0003.jpg Kirby

Id say the fallowing: -18"wide x18" long x20" tall is good for one....if supplied with flying time... -14"wide x20" long x20" tall is good for three...if they get time outside... -14"wide x30" long x20" tall is good for six...if they get a lot of time outdside....to play and frolic! Hope this helps! Kirby

Congrats Daz!...i love your setup!...and names..(Laughing out loud) Kirby

okay, once again, thanks hurdybirdy. So, tell me if im right now. If i were to breed a female green spangle to a dominant pied skyblue cinnamon id get: -50% green normals -50% green spangles then 25% of the spangles would be split to cinnamon? And some would be split to pied? thanks Kirby

So when you say carrying, that means that one of his parents have to be blue? The green spangles parents were both green.....So i can only have greens even if breed to that skyblue dominant pied cinnamon?.... So i cant get those coloured babies that hurdybirdy posted a picture of then?... Kirby

Hes DEFIATELY A MAX!!!....dont you think? If not a Max, then i still think Toby, Dumpling, or Areo....How about Cashmere?....then you could call him Cas (pronounced K-A-Z) for short since hes so fluffly, and looks so adorable!!! HES SOOO CUTE!!!...where did you get him...what store? Kirby

WOWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..... So i could have babies that look like this?: http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/Littl...es/IMG_1179.jpg [...this link isnt working..but the exact same link is above under what hurdybirdy said].... YAY!!!!!......The green spangle hens parents are a dark green mom, and a green spangle dad. Then i know the breeder has the parents of the blue, but he did not show me, nor did i ask to see them. So, when you say split to blue, that means if one of the parents was blue right? The male (im calling him Toby, so lets refeer to him as toby instead of 'the blue one'..(Laughing out loud)) looks EXACTLY like his sister, who has a brood of like 6 babies.... So in all, i guess im just asking if i could get that coloured baby from a single factor green spangle, and Toby (the skyblue dominant pied cinnamon...that looks like Rainbows male).....YAY!..(Laughing out loud). Kirby

Isnt that Mika????...or did you just change the name from Jayjay to mika? Kirby

hahahah...thats a cute name Beka!...i like it! Yes, (Laughing out loud), you should find new mates for the hens. From my past, and the past knowledge of other breeders, most hens do n ot like younger males.....They would prefer older, and only allow older males to mount. (Laughing out loud), which increases the chances of good breeding! ps-Daffodil is DEFINATELY a FEMALE! You can see blue in almost every hens cere at one point. Like ven look at Tweetys blueish cere, as well as Puddin's. Then note the pinkish colour to Wylies cere, and Tazzy's!..(Laughing out loud) Hope this helps.... Kirby

(Laughing out loud), thanks lovey! Ya, i think i am going to go with the more docile one* if hes a female*....but if its a male, then i will pick a female from the same clutch as him....Since i have also heard most females like older males, instead of a almost 3 year old female breeding with a year old male. So, if i were to get a hen green spangle, and if i bred her to a yellow faced blue type II, and the skyblue dominant pied cinnamon cock, what coloured babies could i get? Heres a link to what the skyblue dominant cinnamon cock that im getting that looks very similar to, he is the 2nd one in from the right. However the one im getting has cinnamon markings, instead of this greywing. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Rai...01/DSCN0320.jpg Kirby

So i should go with the green spangle, docile male? The only thing is that hes VERY quiet, and i dont think he has enough drive to breed with and older female? I know im making assumptions WAYYYY to early, since he was still in the nest when we got to the breeders, but wouldn't a fiesty male be more successful in getting a older hent o breed with then a docile male?....IM STILL TORN!!!!!!!!!!!! Kirby

Looks like a male for sure! Id call him Toby, Aero, Kirby, Chico, Pie, Dumplin, or Barney! Kirby

Shawna!..how many birds are you going to buy?..hahahahah. Next time you drop into the pet store, pick up two adult males, or 4 for that matter since the past 4 you bought were older females, and im sure theyd like to have a pair!..Also, you could start breeding them since they are older than your other looney toones (like Tazzy, Tweety)..... Id call her Kiwi, or Emma..... Kirby

okay great thanks SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much Nerwen!..... I still dont knwo if i should go with the more timid green spangle male, or the 'more aggressive' blue spangle male. My ALL time favourite budgie colour is blue spangle, so i could have a LOT of them, or a lot of still nice green spangles! My mom does NOT want me to get the 'agreesive blue spangle babies' since she wants peaceful ones. Like the timid male green spangle...So im torn! Kirby

okay, so Nerwen, what if i was to get one of those blue spangled babies but a male this time, instead of the female green spangle? Also, im pretty sure that the green spangle was a male...the cere was pink, but had some light colour which might have been white.....So, im sorry to bug you again, but could you help me figure out the previous parings if i was to sub the green spangle female in to a male, and the other thing would be if you could sub the green spangle female into a male blue spangle...? ps-the sexes of the birds i have now are: -yellow faced blue type II-MALE -cinnamon violet white recessive pied- FEMALE -skyblue normal-FEMALE Then could you try to figure out if: -the green spangle was a MALE instead of a female.... -if i got a blue spangled MALE instead of the green spangle... THANKS A LOT! Kirby

hahahah...okay thanks!.....Wow, you replied fast!..thanks Nerwen, your the best! (Laughing out loud) Kirby

okay thanks Nerwen, however i kinda got conused at some parts..... -"the male i discribed above x skyblue hen this is the same as the first piar" -"the male i discribed above x white recessive violet cinnamon pied hen again this is just as the second pair above" When you said that, would i not get pieds since the hen is a pied, and the male has the dominant pied patch on his head? I just thought id get 50% pieds, and 50% normals....wouldnt i? then for this: -"the male i discribed above x green spangle female hen I'm taking it for granted that the spangle is only single factor: Half green spangles slpit for yellowface blue Half green normals split for yellowface blue. If the hen is split ofr blue then: 25% green spangles slpit for yellowface blue 25% green normals split for yellowface blue. 25% yellowface blue spangles 25% yellowface blue normals" Could you just explain these for me? Why would i be getting yellow faced blues out of that, if the male is white faced? Then, for the hen to be split to blue, does that mean at least one of the parents has to be blue? The parents of the clutch of green spangles was a normal green hen, and a spangle green male. There was a normal blue, and a blue spangle who bred, and had like 5 blue spangled babies, and 1 pied baby, but they were very aggresive. Even the young babies were very nippy, and the breeder even told me that the babies will not be the best breeders since not many males would be able to put up with the hens when they are all grown up. Unless i got a male from that clutch, and still bought the other older male that i thought was recessive pied...so id have two new males to breed with my two hens i have now....WHAT SHOULD I DO??????????...I really want blue spangles...and a LOT of them! Which ones should i buy to have the best chances at getting blue spangels?..should i get : -a docile baby green single factor spangle? -a aggressive baby female single factor blue spangle? -a aggressive baby male single factor blue spangle? Heres a picture of rainbows male, which looks VERY similar to the one im going to buy, except mine will have darker cinnamon wing markings, and a darker blue colour....(a normal blue colour, not skyblue like this one is, and also the one im buying, does NOT have white flight feathers. All his feathers have cinnamon on them, all the way to the tips unlike this one)...[hes the second one from the left..beside the cobalt normal] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Rai...01/DSCN0320.jpg Thanks guys!...sorry for the loooong post! Kirby

So guys, if i was to get male blue recessive cinnamon, and a female green spangle. (The male is a blue colour, with cinnamon markings, a white face, yet the recessive patch behind the head....so im calling him a recessive pied). He looks like Rainbows one male....except a darker blue, and darker wing markings.... So, if i were to breed the fallowing, what would the babies create?: -male yellow faced blue type II x skyblue hen -male yellow faced blue type II x white recessive violet cinnamon pied hen -the male i discribed above x skyblue hen -the male i discribed above x white recessive violet cinnamon pied hen -the male i discribed above x green spangle female hen -male yellow faced blue type II x green spangle hen So if anyone knows what those colours would create, that would be incredible AMAZING and appreciated! thanks again! Kirby

yay!...thanks guys!.... I cant wait now even more than ever!..(Laughing out loud), stop teasing me!..just joking!, continue teasing me ..PPPLLLEEEEAAAAASSSEEEE!!!!!!! Kirby

Hey there guys! I just got back from the breeders house, i was there for nearly two hours! Even though it felt like 20 minutes! I guess time flies when your really having fun! So, i picked out my babies, and they are just about to fledge like tomrrow, so im going to get them in about a week!!!...If all goes well, and my sexing ability to correct, im going to get a male green spangle, and a female blue spangle. The female is more of a grayish colour as of now, yet still blue. The green spangles males parents are a green spangled dad, and a green hen. The female blue spangles parents are a skyblue spangled mom, and a normal blue father. Now, to tied me over for the next week, could anyone post pictures of their spangles growing up?..that would be fantastic!!! I have tried google, but there are only like 2 pictures of spangles...and id rather see a lot more!...(Laughing out loud). Thanks a lot guys!.. Kirby :hap: