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I love the one of Blink and Oz look like he is giving some uncle advice he he :grbud:

very interesting did he tell you the parents mutation and history or will it be a surprise?

ah so since you DID get a male that "could" confirm that the 2 lacewings (are a combo of lutino and cinammon) because the only way the male could be a lutino is if he got one from the mom and 1 from the dad and we know that the female can't be split she visually has to show any sex-linked gene. Interesting conversation...

Kaz are golden face and yellow face the same gene just the yellow is darker or lighter?

I can't see her but I see Beaker and he is a medium green I would say and if he has the patch on the back of his head and it is large he would be a dominant pied.

gotcha when you find out let me know okay

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So you are saying that the male lacewing was split to lutino (if lacewing is a separate mutation) and the one that she has is a girl? That could support the theory being a separate mutation. But also to disagree with that since there is a 25% chance of lutino and females only need 1 lutino gene to display the gene it is easier to get a female. Karen has a good picture of the cere before the other picture but with the flash it is hard to tell the sex. The question every mutation starts off from a spin off of another mutation (at least I believe so) somewhere. So where would the lacewing mutation come from if it is not a combo? What site do you use? This is what I generally read off Budgie Place Mutations and Colors and along with learning off the genetic guru here on the site. You must make those birds co-operate (Laughing out loud) play some music, budgie courting sounds of other budgies .

Norm isn't golden face just the intensity or the deepest of the yellow of the yellowface gene?

your welcome, I just went to the store and bought a lot of yummy stuff for Merlin. I am going to use the chopper and chop it and then add his seed in the mixture. Best time to intro new food is the 1st feeding or the last one at night that is why budgies are more open to eating because they are hungry .

if it is a blue series then I would say that your initial mutation would be correct dragonfly because that is what I am seeing too.

(Laughing out loud) I know that feeling Merlin does the exact same thing he always flies on the camera when I am pointing it at him

very nice are you going to add more branches too...I know you are just in the making. I love it.

yes they need to be bought organically, I use it in the mixture when I buy some and they love it.

millet over here, I would use their favorite food for a treat

any type of bean would be okay I would stay away from canned beans because of the high content of salt. There are none on the unsafe list when I looked it up

if he is as macka said a grey green then he would not be a yellowface correct? (I was kinda of thinking that but didn't mention it before that he could be a green based and not blue bird.

yes everything in the canary seed is okay, I am not sure what it is called but I have seen it in a veggie fortified mix too that is specifically for budgies.

you could be very well right, lets see with others say... I saw the light grey throat spots and thought a greywing but his wing pattern looks strong to be a greywing.

it is a wonderful picture and she is so gorgeous in it...just think she is flying like the angel she is with wings spread and no pains from arthritis anymore. She lived such a wonderful life in your care.

Gina the cage is perfect for these types of birds but you knew that . My concern is mixing species but knowing you, you will watch to make sure everything is okay.

Norm if the pairing is 2 lacewing (as Karen stated) then the male is a lutino and cinammon he wouldn't be split for lutino because he already is? right?

He is a gorgeous bird, I am going to have to put your pics down to links though because the board max for posting pics is 450x450 it keeps the boards running smoothly. To me he looks like a Golden Face and possible mauve with the yellow and mauve making that beautiful coloration of olive like green. Have you had him since he was a baby? He was blue and changed into this green? Does he have light grey or light brown cheek throat spots?

I don't see the pictures? It shows some type of chinese language?

Lacewing is a combo of the lutino and cinammon gene when 2 are paired together the genes can be split apart. So if I am doing this right you have a chance of 50% lacewing, 25% lutino, 25% cinnamon The result is the 25% lutino I would say if you bred them again you probably would get lacewing BUT I have to say that both my kids have blue eyes and blond hair and neither my husband or I are visual for either one of those genes (Laughing out loud)...so the 25% came out 2x with us I am thinking (not sure) the only way you can have a 100% chance of Lacewing is if you bred a lutino x cinnamon (the male would need to be a visual and have 2 lutino or cinnamon genes) the female automatically expresses the gene with having just 1 lutino or cinammon gene.