*Nerwen*

cuties what colour is the two main tail feathers of the one on the left in the second picture?

the small ones that fit in breeder cages, i've only seen available from a club supplier.

aww Zebra you have a darling little boy there. that last picture is beautiful.

hehe it is all good *sits on thread waiting for deb to post line* AV - who sings this? as Ten thousand fists by Disturbed does not start like that, this line is the last one of the chorus. just wondering if there is another song out there.

well never mind then as it seems Deb beat me to it.

Sorry but this isn't the case the male is paired to a white face blue this means only a 50% chance of the yellowface gene being passed onto the chicks. There will be a nice mix of young with this pair.

yeah the yellow of the face will show when the pin feathers are starting to open around the 3 weeks mark. as to the double factor yellowfaces appearing as white faces - this is only with the TYPE 1 type of yellowface. a type 2 will still have a yellow face but the green bleed in the feathers will appear more patchy.

i see grey as well not signs of cinnamon. a cutie

sorry but i'm not seeing any signs from those pictures that she is opaline. I would like a closer shot of her and of her back, as i can see some marks on her tail and want to know if they are just shadows or not. she might be cinnamon or a form of dilute as it seems her thoat spots are not the normal black. But I would leave these two together.

i agree with Kaz.

yes both are budgies and there is no issues if you are breeding for yourself rather than aiming for show. You will only get young ones like Fred again (yellowface type 2) if the hen is split for blue. You will get 50% chance of spangles.

Sex linked is as Melbournebudgies said carried on the X gene. A hen will appear as the variety while the males can carry the gene. Genes such as INO gene, Cinamon, Opaline and texas Clearbody are all sexlinked. A Hen with a sexlink gene will give that gene to ALL her sons. A Cock with sexlinked gene (visable) will give it to ALL his daughters.

keep in mind Single factors too Elly. If the grey only has one grey gene there can still be blue offspring appearing in a clutch.

awww Good to see Merlin again.

sounds great If he is willing to learn all now and also willing to wait for a little friend to grow up from an egg I think he will be a great owner!

This is just around the wrong way the MALE will have to be split blue for any of the offspring to appear blue in their clutch. She will give the blue gene to all her offspring (making them split for the gene - meaning they carry the gene but don't appear blue) You need the yellowface type 1 gene to get this look, a type 2 is dominant over the type 1 gene and you will not be able to get young as type 1's using a type 2 bird. Hope this helps, keep asking the questions. The yellowface gene is tricky and I'm trying to keep it basic at the moment so as not to overload your mind.

another interesting one there, will look forward to pictures once it fledges

well i can just see me having to try this one (yes i'm weird like that)

first time i have seen that picture throwback, thanks for sharing. makes me remember hommers birds that he posted a long time back (as hommer hasn't been here for ever either) his birds had a few black lines in the chest feathers, nothing like this bird (who looks stunning) and we all here thought it might have been stress marks from what i remember in the thread.

neat you pieds are AUSTRALIAN DOMINANT PIED, not dutch which is what the clearflight pied is also know as. Danish pied are the recessive ones. ALL stunning birds, I would love to see baby 3 when all grown up, how strong are the markings?

One - opaline blue spangles two -australian dominant opaline spangle (clearflight is a term for the dutch dominant pied) agree with the violet three- recessive skyblue opaline spangle

Perfect picture Lucy it shows the lack of markings and the iris rings. Karen- funny that I did question myself if DF dom pied would suit better.

Harley - looks grey normal to me. Just to check what colour is is cheek patches, if silverblue/grey then he is a grey if blue/navy then he is a blue. Strom - mauve normal (compaire her cheek patches to harleys) Boof + Pretty - both sky blue normals DQ -can't see to well but she is a dominant pied, can't tell colour from here. (saw your sig she looks grey) Figi - as stated YF 2 spangle Blue - recessive pied cobalt Flame - lutino as you stated Lemon - as you stated Lutino Lime - Greygreen normal. (the tail is black not navy like Mozzie) Cloud - sky blue and i think he may be spangle as i see the lack of troat spots, but hard to tell with the wings so bright Mozzie - as you stated normal green

there is no reduced clour in the flight feathers that have black on them (which is what is aimed for in TCB) a picture of dad will help as this one does look like a recessive pied. This is a sign of Opalines not Dom pieds.

no bird is split for green that is dominant. she is a cinnamon opaline, so you can get cinnmamon babies of both genders of them. is Bailey the other bird in the first picture?? if he is a yellowface, so you would have 50% yellowfaces and white faced blued and 50% dominant pied as well.