Daz

Yep those big rocks, 4 of them need to be pulled out. The concreter is going to be here at 7:00am. What I haven't done tonight he will do in the morning.

You bet !! Please send urgently by flatpack or postal tube Careful Kaz don't want to start WWIII :hap:

Hi the both of you, I hope you have a great time on the forum. Your birds sound great. We would all love to see any photos of them. :hap: Just a quick point, please ask any question you would like. We don't think an question is too silly. But as this is an international forum we try to keep to english with out short cuts, like u and c and 2. Some of our members have enough trouble with english. Have fun and enjoy.

lol it does sound a bit strange doesn't it.

Looks likea dilute spangle skyblue cock.

Well we have started. I was up at 6:00am this morning removing plants The concrete possed a problem so I had to call for help. And finally it was gone ....now to wait for the concreator.

If the newest egg is over a month old I say they are not fertile or something has gone wrong. I would throw them out.

Each Week I get a bag of carrots, Half a celery, packet of mung bean sprouted, packet of snow pea sprouts and a four packet cans of corn kernels. Each day the birds get half a corrot grated, 1 stick off celery cut up in to small cubes, 1/4 cup mung beans sprouted, 1/4 packet of the snow pea sprouts cut up and a can of corn kernels. (can is 125g) They love the mix. I've been giving it to them for the past year and it gives them vitamins and mineral. Now out of 74 birds that I have had in the past 16 months. I have only lost two birds. 1 from a prolapse and the other from a misterious ilness. I will lose another from the dreaded Feather duster syndrome soon. I have currently 43 birds in the flight all doing well.

Well as you know I am planing an Upgrade from the modest aviary I now have. up to something a bit more roomier. I started with this one back in April 2005. Just the extension bolted onto the side of a garden shed. 1 year later I altered the shed to this. I used to breeding the pergola but know have a breeding room and a flight twice as big. The shed is approx 2.0m x 2.2m with an extension 2 x .9 x 1. Now the concreat slab is being extend to an area of 3.2 x 5 m. My plan was to have that done this week and then leave it. Sell the old Avairy on ebay before Christmas, Move all the birds in to the garage and duing my 3 week holiday at the beginning of January rebuild the new Avairy, refit it and move the birds back in....... Well best laid plans of Men and Budgies. The boss cancelled my holidays in January and I am looking at bring them forward to???? okay tomorrow the site will be cleared and the new Slab is to be laid on Wednesday. Photos to come.

Nathan are you saying that the hen has abanded her nest and the eggs have been left for over a month?

With My eyes I picked it as an opaline grey not an opalone cinnamon grey

Single Factor Spangles split to Greywing

I had two chicks that were ready (30 & 28 days old) to come out of the nest box. But because the hen hadn't started her next clutch I decided to let them stay. I came home this afternoon and the hen had thrown both the chicks out and had cleaned the nest box out for the next clutch. The chicks were quiet happy in the breeding cage with the cock looking after them. I will leave them there until they are 42 days old before moving them to the nursary with the other chicks.

I use a 100mm flap sanding disk on my 100mm hand grinder. Works a treat.

Karen you should know that I'd say 3.

That is true. As green is Dominant to Blue but there is a percentage that will be blue series effected by the Dark factor and violet gene. But I only want to keep it on the basic principles.

For a while I thought you only got half. Glad you added the rest Edit: 1. LL x Lv D Violet lt green/blue 50% Dark Green/blue 50% 2. LL x L Dv Lt green/blue 50% Visual dk green/blue 50% okay what about visual violet to visual violet.

Having the young bird show is a big plus. Some people will by blood, by that I mean that if the bird came from a stud that is well known for producing good birds the bird should be good. So the 3rd best bird shouldn't be over looked. It did come the same parents as the best bird. It is better to buy an average bird from an outstanding stud than an outstanding bird from an average stud. It prospect is in the genes not always the looks. Sunday there is bird on raffle at the show. $1 tickets. It is a gazzard bird. The last three gazzard birds I saw at auction all priced over the $3000 a bird. ..... I hope there are some tickets left when I get there.

Thanks Nerwen. That would be right. We went through this discussion at the last meeting and there is another 4 examples including a double factor visual violet with a cobalt. A visual violet with a lutino. and a violet grey. But i'd like people to grasp the concept first. The breeder that discussed this topic has breed most combinations in the blue series but hasn't breed visual violet to visual violt.

Ino Double Factor Spangle Dark Eyed Clear

Yes of course but as I said it's best to keep them until they mature. Many breeders keep them chicks until the end of the breeding season and then cull. (Keep and sell) A lot of breeders only keep the best. But as we know genetics hids some good traits that can appear in the new generation. I know a top breeder that keeps his best one and then the 3rd best one in a family. You cull by family not by over all.

I'm so glad she is okay terri

Cobalts Violet is the only visual violet, but the violet gene effect so many other colours in different ways. To understand the violet gene, we must first understand the consept of Sky blue , Cobalt and Mauve. These colours are effected by the dark factor (sounds like star wars ). Each bird carried to lighting factors, these come as a Light Factor (L) and a Dark Factor (D). If a bird has two light factors LL in the blue series it is Sky Blue. In the green series it is Light Green. If a bird hsa a light factor and a dark factor LD it is a Cobalt in the blue series and a Dark Green in the green series. If a bird carries two dark factors DD it is a Mauve in the blue series and an Olive in the green series. Lets look at the Violet Gene (v) it is a floating gene that reacts to the Lighting factors. It can be carried on the Light factor or Dark factor. Some examples. a Blue series bird that is carring 1 light factor and one dark factor and the violet gene could be writen this way Lv D or L Dv because the violet gene can be carried on the Light fator or dark factor. This bird in the blue series would be a visual violet (Cobalt Violet). It it was a green series bird it would be a Violet Dark Green. This bird would look like an Olive. Let keep to the blue series birds only. L Lv or Lv L would be a Violet Skyblue L Dv or Lv D would be a Visual Violet (Violet Cobalt) D DV or Dv D would be a Violet Mauve. To many this would be as far as they would care to go. Breeding Show birds is a bit different . The breeder would like to know what factor the Violet gene is attached to to help him breed the bird he wants. How dod you find this out. Well if you have a few thousand of dollars hanging around you can have extensive DNA testing done. Or you can test breed. Example 1. Cross a Cobalt LD with a Visual Violet Lv D. (Lets use one way of crossing in genetics.1sts, lasts, 1st to last, last to 1st. ) L Lv - Violet Sky D D - Mauve L D - Cobalt Lv D - Visual Violet. Note no Skyblues Example 2. Cross a Cobalt LD with a Visual Violet L Dv. L L - Skyblue D Dv - Violet Mauve L D - Cobalt L Dv - Visual Violet Note no Mauves. As you can see there is different outcomes from pairing what would look like the same birds. You can carry this on for all types of pairing. Example 3 Cross a Violet Mauve D Dv with a Skyblue L L D L - Cobalt Dv L - Visual Violet D L - Cobalt Dv L - Visual Violet 50% Visual Violet 50 % Cobalt. Remeber that there is the double factor visual violet Lv Dv. For those that get it, what is the out come of a Light green bird to a visual violet? More Information Producing Visual Violets by Cyril Rogers Violet Factor Blue Series

Nerwen we have just had a great talk on Violets. I'll post the Subject notes to discuss.

Well you didn't do a good job. congratulations on the new chicks. I would have taken the eggs from her one a day and thrown them away.