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its only the one chick nub from this pair and a hen too boot bd i will try but dont they turn out really small or can you decide the size as my lastone i did shrunk so small it was silly splat that hen was your hen the chicks just comming into moult and i will update it once molted

ive had lot of trouble with that hen she lays very well but she adles her eggs i only got that one out of 7 eggs all dis at full pipping age and only as i changed its nest she lost 4 filling them with air and all chick hatched at stupid hours of morning im outday off to the i port with some birds so will get more maybe tonight if im not exhausted this was oviously not my vry first pair but i may try to do that go through my pics and get pics from first breed to now that could be good i could also see my chicks progreshion that way thanks finnie ill also try work out the new phuck bucket to auto resize my pics so kaz has no work linking them sorry kaz

well i thought since im no good at keeping a running journal maybe i can keep a running document on pairs and their young once fledged so here is my first pair these............................................ http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc481/fox-stud-gb8/my%20stud%20birds/BILD9303-1.jpg produced .......this http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc481/fox-stud-gb8/my%20stud%20birds/BILD9396.jpg http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc481/fox-stud-gb8/my%20stud%20birds/BILD9358.jpg http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc481/fox-stud-gb8/my%20stud%20birds/BILD9356.jpg well thats just a start ill gather pics of chicks and pairs and add to this i think this for me is easyer way to share

toni im sorry your having alot of trouble with you friend have you tryed moving bird to the room you train him /her in as maybe its the place he /she is thats actually the issue you say its all good in smaller cage maybe she /he feels more secure in a smaller surounding just a thought

well i physically can not do it myself nor do i have any help but i managed to get help to build mine mind you mine has taken two years lol and still not done im sure i would of saved loads money also getting one straight up built ready to go they would need to be installed as well in the price im in mids of getting pop out finished and two windows installed ive breed show birds for just under two years now and they still have never been in a fully finished set up

mate that dom pied is good as dont go by size the smallest bird can turn out the biggest hes just young i have the same prob i look at my birds and go mmmmm thats small but then i go to others homes and think **** mine are actually good so dont be decived by size keep him he will grow on after 6 month moult

why not its the dad was skyblue mum was grey green she could have been dd factor Sky Blue = no dark factor (0-df), green series is Light Green. Dark Grey Green = one dark factor (1-df), blue series is Cobalt. Olive Grey Green = two dark factors (2-df),blue series is Mauve. So 0-df X 1-df = 50% 0-df or 50% 1-df OR 0-df X 2-df = 100% 1-df The Grey Green is split for Blue and single factor Grey as it produced a Grey when paired to a Sky Blue. Check the Cheek patches. sorry rip to make you explain thank you though for that i dont need to cheak patches i know you will be correct

why not its the dad was skyblue mum was grey green she could have been dd factor

you did it dave not limited perfectly :} if everyone posted as you did id probably read with more gusto all breeding posts

lol almost exactly what i have done only i havent shown my birds yet well i did show one very **** small albino but he did come first in section in our deploma no ribbon just the albino young cocks their were only three i think it was beginners class to so i got second with my spangle hen and third same deal im culling back to my 4 oridganal lines now the rest go out gone bye bye good or not i seen the diffrence or the two types of breeding as i been playing with both' i think the advice they giving is spot on as i said no big prices needed to breed big birds i found that out :}

im sorry dave but on a good note thats the best read ive had for ever i was taken in and i didnt fall asleep to boot lol you should write a book on your breeding venture this year im sure if it was written as your post it would be a great read :}

Which pair are you talking about? The one on eggs, or the other pair? If I recall correctly, the one on eggs was really thin, and doesn't she need a good long rest, to get into better condition? How is the condition of the other hen? Just make sure she is getting a high quality diet, with lots of vegetables, vitamins, calcium supplements, to make sure she has a good nutritional foundation. I don't know if 3 weeks is long enough to build her up properly, though. i would never put the one on eggs(i think the eggs are infertile) straight back into breeding that would be cruel. i was going to get another hen because i probably wont try to breed the thin one again. i feed my budgies, seed, vegetables, fruits, shell grit and they get treats and cuttlefish so i do look after them. no body is saying or suggesting you dont look after them pride its just sometimes you cant see the strain its having on a hen or cock in breeding untill its too late some birds just cant keep weight on when breeding if going into breeding out of condition as in not big and plump a handful wouldnt matter what you feed them if cocks not constantly feeding hen then hen is not eatting enough as shes sitting on eggs not comming out to eat as much as she should

best bet take down to nearest plant place garden place ask their sorry i dont recognize that tree In Garden

our club does the seed thing but i dont think that it actually profits them its to help us be able to keep the keeping of birds affordable we also have guess speaker nights where either one the club members or a breeder from out of club comes along and talks on things weve done different variates and i do hope that continues as it was interesting learning about a verity you do not actually breed yourself weve had talk on spotting and show prep and verious other stuff its soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way much better now that the precidancy has changed hands no efence to old one but budgie politics and money issues cage standards extra are not why i joined i couldnt give too hoots about all that **** now we just hear a breif two mins of it not two hours :} yeaaaaaaaaa and most meetings ae bird related as it should be :}

any pics yet hun

i agree with this advice from finnie

I hope these weren't the birds you bought for me! Just kidding GB... Seriously though - people like yourself are what this hobby needs. I'm only new to all this and you have helped my so so much it's made me want to get into the hobby even more. I can't thank you enough for all the help and support you've given me. The same goes for everyone who contributes to this site (special mention to Kaz) - without it I might've just given up as I couldn't find anywhere to buy any decent birds. Now I'm as keen as mustard to breed really good quality birds and I now have more of an idea of what it takes to do it (as chookerbreeder said - time, patience and some luck!). It's like any hobby really - once you get bitten by the 'bug' you can't get enough and this site has helped me gain so much knowledge, and the more I learnt, the more I want to learn. Resources like this provide people with information and help that they may not otherwise be able to get - that's what newbies like myself need. As others have said - if someone is starting out and they get assistance and help then they're much more likely to continue with the hobby, as opposed to be shunned and discouraged by the 'experts'. The perception that it's a bit nerdy is probably right, but so is breeding any type of animal these days, whether it be dogs, fish, reptiles etc.. Changing these perceptions is difficult, as they've been ingrained in peoples thinking for many, many years. It may be an deterient for people wanting to enter the hobby or it might be a something that attracts people to it. I certainly don't have a solution, but I can't wait to attend my first auction! lol no not birds you got i was actually questioned about a few of them your lucky i am honest or maybe that green hen would be in a different flock by now along with the grey spangle and sky blue spangle your welcome to the hens i just got but now need to part with their good birds but they have not got the look my birds i breed have and this was pointed out and taken in so i spent 200 and now need top sell before i even try them but its good solid advice i have taken two years to get the look i have achieved and need to be careful not to put in anything less so.... i stuck one in for you and a cinnamon grey cock anyways i know you dont want cinnamon but mate your going to want it one day and these two birds are from top studs and both birds untried they are a great pair you will get some beautiful chicks i paired them just for you ill most probably kick myself when you get chicks lol but ill also be glad you got a good chance of some great birds

it really depends on your club do you have beginners or new members or are they more established breeders their age extra if the activitys will be club funded or out of own pocket or free activitys if theiirs travling involved or just nightmeeting i find that our club most the people are straight from work no tea or home enough for a shower change then out the door i think a good idea would be every few months (as meeting only ones a month ) as weathers getting nicer that the meeting night could be held at a members home bbq tea and the host gives description and or kind of a basic rundown of their plans and their achievements as i find most peoples best birds stay home and also find that the members do not actually invite each other over to their aviary to often the ones that do are all grouped together you always hear about the good ones at home well lets go see them i understand some dont want to share but really if thats cause why even be in the club to start its about enjoying our birds together showing this one off and that one off id be proud to have people visit my humble little stud and explain my plan so that my club members could point out anything i may have wrong or be about to do wrong just a idea you could even just pull the name randomly out of a hat or go by alphabetical order of who's home is next

Thanks for your replies folks, I knew thisa thread would spark conversation and more importantly start people thinking how to revamp our hobby. Love your ideas Jimmy Banks now who do we know that could proiduce such programs. Keep up the replies folks and think outside the square, we have a committee here in Victoria trying to come up with fresh ideas to attract members. Cheers Clearwing Thanks for your replies folks, I knew thisa thread would spark conversation and more importantly start people thinking how to revamp our hobby. Love your ideas Jimmy Banks now who do we know that could proiduce such programs. Keep up the replies folks and think outside the square, we have a committee here in Victoria trying to come up with fresh ideas to attract members. Cheers Clearwing Sorry for the typos, have a bandaged finger and keep hitting two keys ar once. PS I don't hate auctions and have made a couple of outstanding purchases over the last two years, but I love the debate! im pretty sure i read somewhere about a bumper sticker they are asking for a slogan for a bumper sticker their is a prize for the best one can you tell us a bit more about that clearwing im sure their would be some fantastic lines from the guys on this sight maybe even the wining one its ment to intral people to join i think ...it this right ????

they are beautiful in an ugly cute way but they suffer a slow death and i dont like to see thinks suffer but thats me i use to think people were crul who put them down but not since i seen a few around and how they deteriorate so quickly and the strain on mum n dad its not nice unless like live you take on as a whole full time job or as you kaz im sure you feed extra to him i feel its cruel

no pt not deploma show their having a young birds and unbroken caps on 7th oh maybe i was getting my leg pulled wouldn't suprize me as i actually want to take a few birds for a change so could of been given the wrong info i will find out thanks mate

They don't live long at my place due to human intervention. I take note of where they come from and try to avoid inbreeding those families too heavily. Cheers PT i tend to think their a strain on mum n dad and as are going to slowly suffer im with pt but i havent had one yet just halfy but not sure im going to breed her

oh pt you forgot also men these days that breed budgies by teenage boys eyes are gay oh no did i say gay lol sorry to all but its the word around the house i have full of tanager boys that son has over they always saying any male over 12 whom breeds birds must be oh...... i do agree pt even jimmy suggested vetrial budgies i just dont think it will cut it you either do or dont breed em and as they do take up time time also is a big factor

well you would be very welcomed their also i think peter tarant(think i spell it wrong ) also from their then i could be wrong thats a good club to members all very welcoming people as well i think you will find most clubs good but all have diffrent things they do i really been enjoying our club nights of lat we have had talks and demonstrations and management descutions no real fun raising though not sure we do that i have a good suggestion though weather they would go for it though ???? id really love a few aviary visits arranged but out of state ones or even other side of town that would be great a day trip and a pub meal on way home we could put in for a hummer stretch limo to take us thats not to much i checked it out they got a dance floor and karioki lol i could just see it now oh and that wasnt my idea that was just a wakco idea of a fun club day out my idea is actually normal

western jimmy their the club mate some lovely people their you wouldn't regret joining them their having their show on 7th November at Preston well worth the look in jimmy i dont know much about melton or whoms in it i think some they guys i know are from their but never really asked