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yes who was too know also split opaline the boy but i figured that by back of his head my theory seems to b right bout that so far havent been wrong yet time will tell

yes that is what i thought violet and grey what i was trying to say about the no dark and the see through grey that lets the violet show throw his base colour being cobalt but holding violet modifiyer (greyblue) what confused myself. k if your still un sure .... if he is a violet grey then best way to find out is to breed him to a mauve hen out come being 25 violet,25 cobalt,25violet mauve,25 mauve but if he is violet mauve on top of the grey to breed him to the mauve hen would rezult in 50 mauve,50 violet mauve if you dont have a mauve use a skyblue hen out come being 50 cobalt ,50 violet cobalt , if he is violet mauve on the grey or 25 violet skyblue,25 skyblue,25 violet cobalt ,25 cobalt if a violet cobalt on top the grey have fun when its his time

I feel I have a long way to go I think you judge yourself and your birds a bit harshly...... that baby I judged was an absolute ripsnorter and if your others are ANYTHING like that you don't have as far as you think - trust me. i agree whole heartdley with this comment kaz your birds are very very good we all feel that our birds lack till we build on them mine lack lack chicks :rofl: nubbly your birds are very good stranded high stranded rezults anyone would benefit from any bird you have their ,in their aviry :rofl: fantastic specimans mate hope i achive these kind of rezults that you and kaz are achiving when my pairs start to go down also in aug- sept cant wait for the beginning of this pairings to be followed

sounds good keep the blood line what i like to see well 4 to 5 months if not a bit more lol i will be watching this guys breeding journey

and a nice pied as well

You are right. He is 8 months old. didnt think he was older than 8 or nine im getting better at age defining he is going to be apsalute beautie kaz when third molt goes by mmmmmmmmmmmmm id love one his chicks his colour is lovley and strong also who bred him may i ask ? or did you say already? He is bred by Fran and John Mac laughlan.....out of a skyblue cock and a violet hen. He is NOT split for anything like cinnamon or opaline. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm lol defenently may have to come to your place and get some chicks from him he lovely i dont know their birds but if he is anything to go by very nice pick up kaz what are your plans for him or none as yet

you must be very happy with your little suprise packets rec pie bubbys first time round cinnamon opaline at that sky blue to boot cant wait to see other babys colourings

salutations

having fun yet i agree more pics

looks like she needs to be removed for some tlc if this is one with share box then i would remove hen from aviry let other hen take care of eggs and chicks if not remove her and just place eggs else where she needs to beable to rest and recoop

You are right. He is 8 months old. didnt think he was older than 8 or nine im getting better at age defining he is going to be apsalute beautie kaz when third molt goes by mmmmmmmmmmmmm id love one his chicks his colour is lovley and strong also who bred him may i ask ? or did you say already?

welcome you are and many lovley birds you bring hopefully many more lovley pics

they touch the

i do im just weird with my thinkinghang on is this a new game um sorry my bad first thing i noteced was you own a green bird and your name is shaun

totally agree on the cross flow ventilation i ****ed up my bird room lol cause i thought the open door would be enough but its not even with the roof lifted a tad on wood with blocks to let an extra ince of air was not enough and juat allowed cold night air in worst idea ever now i got to go spend more money on another more practical plan but i will go on hence reason im susin out you ideas lol good luck all sounds good

only find out who all the blood is from and closely monator thoughs birds as so they dont kill eachother as for the ones shareing dont desturb they will both feed chicks so will dad

and adding to this comment can result in broken bones which reset quickly and look to be splayed legs but infact were broken and the only differences is you can tell as the leg will be purpule from bruzing or swelling rare but happens

with heat spontaniously

Love this one, KAZ. :question: She has attitude and she BITES !! my fav

glad someone understood my ramble :rofl: again just grey but patches are blue this time not grey or violet or bluish slaty grey this chick is identical colour to his father who is either mauve or violet grey with the slatish bluish grey patches but his patches are blue not grey or violet or slatish bluish grey :question: so...... and the hens both of them are a very deep violet over their grey one is defanantly mauve as she has the violet black tail feather the second one has the dark dark violet almost black patches i think she is violet mauve they do look patchy on picture but in aviry you can not see the patchiness they look very nice deep colour through out their body and as nubby stated the dd factor does apear more uneven through out than a total even sheen which to me indicates a modifing colour to be precent (violet)even if unseeable to the eye i would love to see a few pics of the bird to date but im not going to dare name its colour :rofl:

i brought the pics down again as i dont remember what was what also i dont understand you b1 and a2 thingy as im didlexic and need picture to understand it 1 b and 2a = yf 2 skyblue normal wing markings cock x either a violet or skyviolet opaline spangle hen (picture hard to tell but i going with sky 1factor violet ) out come i wont do the the percentage of it but will do colour and typeing expected in this pairing violet sky blues and sky blues of yf2 and normal white faced spangles ,and normal hens ,cocks split opaline ,again normal or spangled pair two opaline yf2 violet hen of normal wing markings x sky blue cock of normal wing markings also so all chicks will be of yf2 and white faced chicks normal /opaline cocks of violet sky blue sky blue violet and cobalt and normal hens hope this helps the rec pies explain them selfs

belive it or not the egales and hawks dont tend to pray on them we had wedgies and hawks we lived across from aches how ever thats spelt of farm land and creek flowing right passed the budgies always seemed to stay with in the area of houses didnt matter what way you went their was always a lot of farm land in every direction our estate was in the middle and we were right on the edge of that they would land in the feww close paddocks and eat the fresh seed but only as i said a few hundred meters away they never took flight very far from our home mabe 5 to 6 houses each direction that was it mostly stayed around the house in the large trees we had

their is a book about budgies out their somewhere that has a section solely on the teaching of how to tame your whole flock to be homming budgies i started with budgies so i could try it i was 12 i didnt get my first birds till i was 13 (aviry ones ) and wasnt going to try with my best friend from inside so when i started breeding i started to test the theroy out it actually is true it works and i do remember the aviry layout it includes a special cat safty door for the birds to safly come and go it worked to my advantage when alot of my good birds were stolen and the rest let go free i got all the birds back but the ones who were taken i just left my aviry door open and the next morning at precicly feeding time slowly every one returned home their were straglers that came that night or the next day but out of 25 birds that were let out minis the 15 that were taken that the best rezult ive ever heard or had for that matter i have thought about doing it again but you need to be prepaired to lose a few to people catching them and animals sometimes people would bring them home thinking they excaped so its best to let people know that they are free to come and go as they want you find that if people know not to leave seed for them and know its for everybodys pleshure to beable to see such a beautiful colour flock flying around they do respect the efort you went to to allow it and they do do whats asked mostly it takes 6 months to 1 year to fully tame the flock starting slowly with a number of up to 6 birds at first and adding more slowly as they learn to come home and a lot of trust from your birds but worth it if you live in the right kind of area as i would not sugest this in a built up suberb personly i got sick of people returning my poor excaped birds

to be honest their is so much information that clashes out their when it comes to inheritance and colour its taken me years and i mean years to work out the relevance to the cheek patch issue but its all down to the light and dark factour in the end to have a violet mauve the bird would need to be carrying both dark and medium factors on seperate thingys look im no instine but i do know my breeding out comes and i do understand alot about the factors that need to be obtained in a birds general make up to present certain colours in a breeding out come im not going to sit here and try to explain what has taken me years to workout as its imposable but i will say this to me the bird in question apears to be a bird holding mauve with a dark inheratance and grey in the light no dark factor their for was born a cobalt blue grey looking bird and is maulting into a grey looking bird with a deep cobalt or mabe even violet shade evenly through out his body but still retains the grey as a visual aspect until sun is apone him wher he may look violet or deep cobalt i dont know which from the picture this means that the grey feathers layer the body yet the light factor maks them apear see through to an extent see i told you it would make know sence if i tryed to explain so im going to stop or i will look just stupid but however i do know what im trying to say its just not comming out right thats why i call certain birds of mine mauve grey like this boy of mine this is one chick of his she has no mauve or violet in her althogh she looks to have bluish cobalt sheen her patches are grey this her sister a mauve deep violet patches this bird is mauve but also violet her patches are deep deep violet to the extent they are black even still to this day this their brother again just grey but patches are blue this time not grey or violet or bluish slaty grey again another bird who is simply grey but apears bluish the patches are grey another grey bird this time grey green patches grey this next bird has the bluishslateish im talking about but is grey he holds violet gene but its not vivable to the eye this next bird same slateish bluish colour .,his holding violet gene and i know this bird does as he is my splat bird that got away another grey holding violet same slatish blue patches so i dont know thats they only way i can explain as for question are my birds violet grey or just from violet peront well splat bird from violet father he grey but got the gene as for other bird i dont belive them to be violet grey although i do have one in my flock i think is but untill i breed him to test this then i will not know he looks to me to be dark grey but he does have violet patches so reason i brought him judge for yourselfs cause really their is no right or wrong when it comes down to it they are all grey just some are holding the violet modifyer and as it acts in the same fashion as the grey factor its very hard to distingwish a grey from a violet grey exept through the patches but as mauves have violet patches you may mistake a porly marked violet grey or a well marked muave violet in the grey seires im happy with my breeding rezults that im able to distingwish the 4 even more veriations for myself violet and mauve have many diffrent forms to many to get into one one discution and will always cause a conflicked so i stay out of them this is your awnser he holds violet but is grey mother being no dark factor

no i beg to differ sorry mate all my grey birds bar two have the slateish blue as i call it and all but two are mauve or grey with violet inheritance i know violet = mauve but a grey bird is plainly just grey when the patches are grey i know this i know i seem a bit unknowable on this her sight but im not as dim as i sim i do say alot wrong her but i relize ive made a mistake and usually someone has come along and corected it so.. but i know that im right on this one it was not long ago that a breeder was in my aviry and mentioned to me that did i relize all my greys bar the two would more than likely produe violets or mauves we discussed this matter for awhile the end rezult being that most people did not know this and just classafied them as grey i understand im still going to be told im wrong but go for your life cause i know through the breeding of my bird from starting out with birds of no background history known and also no violet or mauve birds around to buy that i delved into my genetic knolage of inheratance and colour diffientiators to chose birds with my most best posable chance to achive my own violet birds and im telling you slatish purpulyblue cheek patches = mauve or violet inherated bird if breed right these birds produce the most beautiful of mauves and violets as they are not grey as i said you have 3 degrees of mauve as you do greys and blues and greens and other colour the first degree is a grey bird that looks to be with a blue sheen (blue grey ) yet apeirs to be grey well look at the cheek patches cause only grey has grey but we will probbly beg to differ on this macka as i will also probbly be told by others im wrong also it does not matter as i know what i do know is right although other things im sure im compleatly off bat with i was taught my true colour identafing skills through the patches and honestly i think all people should learn to identify colour this way as most people have birds with far more potential (colour wize) than they know