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i wonder what happened here .........

excellent advice once again kaz

can i ask what it actually is and what it does is it just a thing on the com so you can draw sorry im no good with com things but looks interesting i paint so wondered what this thing is

i would say a golden face spangled dominant pied of normal wing colour in cobalt maybe 6 to 7 weeks old 8 at very oldest hes lovely and his colour will change lots up till he is about one year old however he will stay beautiful

Yes all birds are getting the full treatment. My problem was that I couldn't get a proper diagnosis for it as I had asked around and nobody seemed to have experienced it and even when I took a couple of birds to the vet I got a misdiagnosis. The birds I sold via the BBC never came into contact with the 2 originally affected. It is only in the last 3 weeks (since the first vet visit) that they were released into the big aviary and last week I noticed a further 2 hens affected. So then I knew whatever it was it had to be infectious, hence the second visit to another vet a couple of days ago. Come to think of it the birds I sold at the MBC Auction have not been in contact with these birds either as I have had them in a holding cage from a week before the SWBC Christmas wind up. Phew! What a relief! The last thing you want to worry about is that you have sold a bird that potentially could be ill. tell me about it i just went through that i just got vet to treat some birds i sold week before mine got ill very bad makes you feel **** i got they buyer to ring vet after i spoke to vet about sending some treatment to her so and i let buyer know straight away what was happening but again i was relying on the fact that quarantine was put in place and lucky it was although im pretty certain thoughs birds were fine as from seperate aviry but you never know by way i was not sugesting birds i got from you were sick ren im sure i know where my birds got sick from so...dont freat mate no birds i got from wa were unwell as the grey yf from kaz died from seperate issues not same illness

no birds should really leave your flock unless treated for ten days thats what i got told my bird only had very small number of the same thing and i got told even though only the one bird showed the small amount all birds will be affected only not at stage where its a problem as you stated earlier its canker in another termination of speech did you get a report all vet visits i have i ask for a written Analiese for my records to file should have type of Trichomonas on that

oh very cute thankyou splat

thank you splat its appreciated im one for good vibes being sent recon it works wonders :rofl:

so lovley well dad must be cobalt split/ cinnamon split /opaline split /ino i dont know what colour mum is $ im not sure if chick is yf cinnamon grey or grey green but looks grey green but this could be due tio the yellow sufushion im not going to guess which i will most likely be wrong how ever i will say she has to be a she as mum has to be normal as dad is holding the opaline the top chick is by my guess a cock as he is normal cobalt but split to opaline as his down is white this is only from my breeding experiance it could very easy be a normal hen though the albino also has to be hen could be opaline also to find out breed to a opaline cock all chicks will then be opaline cocks and hens but if not then shes a norm i hope that helps with what you were wanting they lovley by way

I can see myself doing this if I bred budgies... and that's why I never wanted to become a veterinarian even though I love animals. I just don't think I could stand the heartbreak. Speaking from an uneducated consumer standpoint, I really think budgies are worth more than they sell for, at least in the U.S. Compared to the cost of food, cage, toys, etc., the price of the bird is negligible compared to everything else. That's why I didn't blink at paying US$25 for a tame, hand-fed budgie. Especially since it took me several months to find a local breeder with budgies in stock, thanks to the U.S. economy, which is understandably scaring off the people who breed budgies as a hobby. Well it is a life style choice for us. We love our pets and our spending priorities reflect that. :rofl: i agree ren i personally dont ever buy myself much if i do its for the birds thus making me happy eg today i had spare 14 dollors so i brought two big bunches of millet for birds while the recooping this was way better than a new top or a coffee and cake or what ever normal people buy cd vidio what not

well im actually quiet suprized as i dont even put add in paper or do i tell people i sell birds i just helped out the pet shop once with a bird some one was particularly after and from their i have had many people come and buy birds from that one mans word of mouth he was very happy and impressed with his little bird that was around the fires last year i also sell alot through this sight and people have come from saint kilder in city and further just for my little birds so im quiet proud i normally really go out of my way to do best by my buyers and also when i have on hand include bells iodine and charcol cuttle bone and a birth certificate i make up if the want and send out via mail once names been confurmed all this for 20 dollors thats including bird i only started breeding pet types for sale so people who really want a well tamed pet could have one with none clipped wings to enjoy at a small price for return of knowing the bird is happy i get e mails with up dates for a while before they start to fad off but i know their in good hands i have refuzed sales also if some one wants them for breeding their priced on how many mutations they carry

okay first birds are doing good everyone seems happy dancing chirppy and no one just sitting around although they are ment to be sick you wouldnt even know it a few sneezing is only sign from one ore two birds macka my pet types are in different space to show birds have been for a while now however anythings pos but im fairly certain i know where it came from also my pets are my own breed birds from a old stock no brought in new birds i was told to treat the birds pets with eggs for till eggs hatch then stop till chicks three weeks but only if birds look normal which they all do then treat again after the three weeks age till treat ment is finished to be honest intill rezult comes in we dont even know what killed them just that it was only thing not ruled out in terms of things that kill birds vet did find it weird that only lost small amount of birds so....but what else could it be no more have died so im happy and yes thanks its not really that much to it just clean all water and food bowls dayly and keep birds feed well i take water away at night so i can clean everything and then give freash in morrn with meds try keep the area free of feathers which is the hard part but my vac does good job of that so .... thanks for suport guys i havent lost any of my really good birds yet and hope i loose no more vet seemed to think i wouldnt so will just see but i can hear them all loud and happy so

will you let his wings grow out when he is tame ????or re clip

well i been showering after birds routine in morn and then after birds routine at night so im very cautious I think (hope) he is pulling your leg! :hap: i know he was but i ignored

From the Pet Shop? You've gotta be kidding! on that not how much do people get for their birds at pet shop i can get 10.00 and 15 for show stock but i prefer to sell for pets tamed to hand for 15 wormed and ivomectomed

well i been showering after birds routine in morn and then after birds routine at night so im very cautious i have been exhausted though and sleep most of the rest of day im happy all birds looking okay still only one hen seems to look more of colour than other birds but eating so good sign

as in if i just tossed eggs and placed in a holding cage is this what you ment macka all birds are being treated including my conure and cocky i even feel like docxy the wild galars that are comming in and water ivomectin that would stop a lot of problems lol its a small flock that comes they started last mont or so ago either that or cover yard in scarecrows im giving all birds millits and hulled otes and grey sun flowers to incorage eatting and weaight gain all cabinet been emptyed and fostered eggs to a few pet types i had up not all but a mixed clutch vet said pets are hardyer so but to stop medication when chicks hatch and to start when chicks three weeks old for rest of treat ment this is not recomended practice this is as the pets didnt seem to be efected and are all from diffrent aviry and had eggs layed same days as show birds i only had 6 nests with eggs and all up 3 eggs in the nests with the biggest nest haveing 4 eggs so i put seven eggs in each pet type clutch thats 14 chicks so thats 5 eggs left im thinking of placeing the other five in between them as they both lay around 9 eggs them selfs anyway they are not getting anny of their own chicks and all eggs have been dated as layed with nest number incase i had to foster in event of problem so that bits not going to be hard eggs will morethan likely be infertile any ways so once my birds are healthy again i will give them another breack so i probbly wont be breeding till next year late or 2011 depending on vets advice i look at it like this my birds are all young so i got lots of time to breed them the sad thing is i had some wonderful bubys and was looking forward to a show but i wont be takeing birds anywhere their is other birds for very long time im even wondering if i should miss club meeting as the bring birds every month and i dont want them to get sick from me being near

Thank for having a go sweets don't have any Olives .... and only a few Dark Greens - so next year I'll be doing a few Cobalt x Dark Green pairings and with any luck one of those Dark Greens will be a DF1 and an Olive will pop out!!!! well i know you must have a mauve and mauve and dark green / yellow which you also have are going to give you dark green / white and dark green / yellow and olive /white and olive split yellow and mauve and dark yellow gives dark green /white and olive /white why guess when if you look at what is writting it takes you straight to what your needing to breed olives even if you dont have a olive or mauve you only need breed some dark greens / blue then them to each other its not as tecnical as blue 1 and 2 really i know but then i have back groung history of my birds to fall back on so... mabe thats why its not difficult i dont know but olives a basic colour to breed just hard to get a nice even deep one

thanks kaz my view also but was told that in letting them continue to sit only ones with eggs the cocks would feed hen medication so would in turn be better left as takeing from nest may stress them more thats why i asked birds would be out of boxes yesterday if i was not sugested this so would you bring birds in or leave where are and would you seperate hens and cocks the breeding pairs or place in same cages or just leave and block nests thanks gb

yes dave and i want to thank you and kaz for your suport through this and rip as mentioned

okay SO HERE IS HOW IT GOES im birds strated to look bit off colour few weeks back, i had one die but belive this was due to extream weather change and fact she just raised a clutch sweet heart then i had one get very off ballanced and he flew into me when i went to cheack him as he seemed off side he was tad thin $ i removed him from flock i thought he may flew into me as this birds a bit silly like that since ive had him he was brought inside so i could monitor eatting next day he started drinking heaps then that night he was having white liquard running from mouth fomming really so i thought okay what the ....then he was just sitting in water bowl drinking as if he never see the stuff every time he had a sip it would come straight out his mouth and back into the drinker and white liquardy colour he was not able to keep food down even though he tryed his hardest all seed he ate came up few seconds after swollowing he lost weaight in mater of days and on the 4th day he died bless him then i went out cheacked all brds they were all fine singing away cheery as no dirty bumbs nothing i cheaked my breeders who just started laying cycal and all good exept one hen had layed off pertch not her usual thing as she very good hen in sence of nesting but all was good other wize that night all good then next morn 6 am the same hen was ontop of her box with white liquard from each side of mouth , you cant really see the liquard as much as you can see that the birds look as if they been dunking for apples i will up load a picture of hen latter so u can see what i mean as if i hadnt of had one day before i would of just thought she was being drinking nothing more i grabed her out with gloved on and cheaked her weaight she had lost in only two days heaps so in a cage with heater on and ect but only this hen had eggs so she was not as stron and die next morn however same thing as above exactly i knew something bad was up not anything normal rip and i descussed posability of poison from lead but my vet feels confident its not however tests will be run if the clyamidia comes back a negitive yes i went to vet in knox dr colin walkers clinic they were very thorow and i took ten birds in she saw them all crop flush and poo samples and some samples i had from home id colected and labbled with birds ring she atopsyed mydead hen and is sending liver off for testing this is my e mail i receved from her regarding their health 22 December 2009 Dear Leeia, Thank you for bringing your birds to see me today. As promised, below is a summary of the visit. Post Mortem Examination: A hen bird which died overnight. The bird was thin and looked to have vomit around her beak. On internal examination she had an enlarged liver and spleen. Her oviduct was enlarged, suggesting recent egg laying behaviour. No evidence of canker, coccidia or worms was seen. She did have moderate numbers of megabacteria in her proventriculus. No obvious lesions were seen in association with this and I don’t believe that megabacteria is the cause of death. A swab was taken from her liver and spleen for a Chlamydia test. Live birds in clinic: All of these birds were thin. Most were bobbing their tails – this happens when they have trouble breathing and is suggestive of a respiratory infection. Crop flush: Several birds were negative, One bird had low numbers of canker Faecal Smears: No parasites found. We have identified at least two different problems in your birds today. Respiratory infection – probably Chlamydia (also known as Psittacosis). This disease causes sneezing, nasal discharge, tail bobbing, weight loss, green urates and many other general signs of illness. We have sent off a swab from the dead bird to check for this disease. If this is positive, we will treat all birds with Doxyvet in the water for 45 days. Canker – this was detected in only 1 bird so it is present in the aviary. I don’t believe that this is causing a major problem for you at the moment but it should be treated before it becomes a problem. This will require ongoing treatment with Turbosole for control. Treatment required now: Doxyvet in drinking water – 1 scoop in 2L. Provide this fresh daily until I phone you with results – I expect this to be 2 weeks. While birds are on doxyvet it is best to remove mineral scources such as grit and calcium blocks. This should only be done if the birds are not breeding. Turbosole in drinking water – 1 scoop in 2L. Provide fresh daily for 10 days. This should be repeated every 3 months to control canker. When other medications are finished, probiotics should be used for several days. NOTE: When combining medications in the drinking water, add the scoop of each medication into the same 2L of water. Do not make up separate mixtures and combine as this will be diluting the medication Preventative Treatments: 1. Canker: Turbosole 1scoop in 2L drinking water for 10 days in a row every 3 months. 2. Coccidia: Baycox 3ml in 1L drinking water for 7 days in a row every 3 months. 3. Worms: Ivermectin or Moxidectin as directed every 3 months for worms and mites. These treatments should be given soon before pairing each season. Please call if you have any further enquiries. Regards, Dr Corrie Pinkster so as you can see my babys are un well im sorry this post is so long but i have a few questions for you all 1. my breeding birds with eggs i have seventeen eggs layed as of the 15th onward with 6 pairs the most eggs in one nest is 3 eggs one due today my question would you let birds continue to sit or toss eggs and block boxes or toss eggs and put all hens in one holding cage all cocks in another 2 the weather is funny would you bring all holding cages inside or leave birds where they are i dont want to add stress to them but worryed they not to warm thanks in advance leeia ps all birds are on meds and waiting for vets finall verdict of dignoses

okay ren here are a few matings for you darl not sure if anyone has put these up for you but im sure you know most these but if you want olives this it how to get their with out stuffing around breeding pairs trying to find pairings to produce you some its simple as written below mauve x olive green gives 100 percent olives /blue then theirs all these you could breed then breed together to achive olives i hilighted ones usful to quickest way their sky blue x light green = 100 per cent light green / blue sky blue x dark green = 50 percent dark green/ blue 50 percent light green / blue sky blue x olive green = 100 percent dark green split blue sky blue x sky blue = 100 percent sky blue their are so many more i could add but these bettter ones sky blue x cobalt = 50 percent sky blue 50 percent cobalt sky blue x mauve = 100 percent cobalt cobalt x olive green = 50 perecent dark green /blue 50 percent olive green /blue mauve x light green = 100 percent dark green / blue mauve x dark green = 50 percent dark green / blue 50 percent olive green / blue

thanks liv but i think i will let others have a go at the comp i do love the dove one though as my mum use to have thoughs birds all over our tree and the silver dove was one of them and was nannas blar blar blar... he looks like hes mimicking it very cute im going to make cards next year and make up packs of 24 cards all different and i will sell them at the market all so singles and on line cheep all proceeds going to my flocks vet account

no dave i know she wont pass on any size issues as shes from a 3 year line of breeding and no probs their so wouldnt try if i hadnt got good history on her familey grandad is a show type grand mum a half show her father is show size but not as good as grandad and this hen is as good as grandad but wider and beter direction not as nipped so its about the challange im just enjoying with some playing seeing how far i vcan go with certain things i have my serious birds also

Which one has the blue feather GB no sweets not the chicks kaz cock you sold her he has one sky blue feather on his chest very cute