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when i get a bird in the prostrate position as started by ren i grab him/her up and bucket of tap temp water and dunk her / him straight in just a quick dunk not the head dont want to give heart atack then into a cage alone in doors for few days rest with added cool veg and much extra lovey dovey talk i only had it once the bird in question was quiet stressed and usto a aconned clossed breeding room shes now fine flying with others but will be mindful of the conditions my birds come from when looking in on them durring hot days

yes and ten to twelve days after mateing begins comes the first egg dave is right you are risking your birds and the chicks breeding a single pair three pairs is least you should put down four is better these pairs need to be incondition at same time and be put up on same day as to get sincranized laying happening

well i talked to vet after my email i got a better responce and im happy to say i feel more listened too vet said to treat birds that look like they have respetory cold like simptoms with sulfa avs how ever i only have sulfa sd ...so.,mmmmmmmmmmmmmm so my next step was to just remove the few who look abit in need of more tender care in house firstly i must say although looking underweather the cock i was worryed about is quiet healthy weaight wize so thats great news the house is warm but not hot and away from anycold or drafts so i will keep with the pro bo intill i can decide if birds are actuially mildly under weather due to all the resent treatments or from a actual cold or worse looks like most birds have lost their brown staining bar one or two to three of them im totally going to over viw my plan of houseing and my area of breeding needs to be looked at as its just a mess about now as in not really officiant but so far no more deaths and more chirping oh all bums back to normal

You can use the teabag itself Renee. How many times you must guage by checking her...maybe twice....your choice. i bath twice if just red looking and if inflamed three times per day for two to three days then twice for week or intill normal but keep seperate for longer

you could almost put a cake tin out and save power by baking it in the sun kaz :sadsorry: well rain rain and more rain for one minite it looked sunny so i put blind up only to walk off and have it start ******* down again so quickly down went the blind again and i think it can stay down i sat in aviry for about 10 mins and have to say the wind is not swerlling around inside anymore my efforts to stop draft seem to be on trake still some water getting in in a spot here and their but honestly unless i fully covered frount with glass then its going to keep happening it doesnt stay wet long however but i still need to work on fixing this at moment all birds looking much better today exept two to three birds :hap:

i froze my extra ginni pig drinkers so by time the fresh morning water gets hot the cold frozen water will start to melt i thought of this as mum useto freeze out preemers in summer wrap them in a tea towel and they would be icey cold still at lunch with a bit to sip up now just waiting for heat again

thats ace lol

dave just a question is the mother of these chicks the same hen that was ill last time and spread infection to a lot of chicks last year or diffrent hen i only ask as i remember you had chicks die last year but you fostered out chicks and they were fine i was wondering if its same hen it was mabe your probblem solved to a degree

should call him casper lol

Yes they do .... but you need a prescription How will salt water affect the really red part of the outside of the eye? Won't it just annoy her more? ren salt warm water works a treat as well needs to be boiled not from tap i have written it many times on this forum and dont bother any more to do so as seems everyone posts the same eye problem and always looking for something more than salt water to fix it salt waters my first option i also go to the local needle exchange and by the tube sterile water for 20 cents a tube it is great when u need it instantly and u can use one tube until empty just place it in fridge to keep hygienic cold or warm works but warm is more comptable for bird or room temp most times unless somthing more derogatory like parrasis birds eye clears with one to two treatments but i continue to drop a drop in morn and night for one week its always worked but i gone on to broline now the eye cream

well its been nothing but wind and rain today and yesterday half hot then frezzing again and rain at night my goodness i will be lucky if anything lives at this rate im beginning to think they all have come down with a common cold due to weather changes over few weeks and lack of amunity due to long time corse of doxcy i probo for three days but really they need more than pro bo for a cold i just dont know what my hens with the chicks in nest the cock birds are catching flu and im worryed their also know i through a blanket over cabinets so night chill stays off and day time wind so sorry about you birds rip it sucks hay : Crazy weather as always - cool over with you and boiling here its really interesting to see the difrences even just from one corrner of your state to the next my mum gets sun and hot 15 minits away i get ******* down rain and wind from ***

well its been nothing but wind and rain today and yesterday half hot then frezzing again and rain at night my goodness i will be lucky if anything lives at this rate im beginning to think they all have come down with a common cold due to weather changes over few weeks and lack of amunity due to long time corse of doxcy i probo for three days but really they need more than pro bo for a cold i just dont know what my hens with the chicks in nest the cock birds are catching flu and im worryed their also know i through a blanket over cabinets so night chill stays off and day time wind so sorry about you birds rip it sucks hay :

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hay mate my birds get sun shine even ones undercover i think i just got to ride it through im just not that good at riding and fall easy so im worryed about one bird inperticula i love him so much hes grown on me i might bring him in for a while i think hes snezzing and brown stain and wezz im scared for him

so did you come across simular issues dave how many others when first getting their stud together when through this may i please ask and can i ask for each persons personal experiance with the anitial starting the stud prosses

you can use human conjunctivitis eye ointment for it ren it works a treat

Well good news you haven't lost any. And as for not knowing what to do, yeah that is totally understandable as you are on that hair-raising fast learning curve that we all go through when we are starting our stud : New birds from different aviaries PLUS limited experience with diagnosis and treatment It can be a nightmare. But chin up! Look for the silver lining and you will see that as disconcerting and horrible that is right now you are finding out lots and lots and what you figure out now will stand you in good stead for the future. yeah i know as you said i do think its alot to do with my stud comming together but really im not going to know for sure i did expect a rough patch but i did also expect the vet to be-able to diagnose a problem for me to work with unfortunately this has not been able to happen

id go cinnamon then but really i can see marking weather they are cin or normal i cant tell but mate their their faintly on the feather tips look again if it is hen which has to be as dads split Opaline then she cant be split cinn only cocks are split sex linkage genes recessive genes both cocks and hens can be split

no mate i have lost no one since the two went down hard last month im just a bit concerned i guess and worried about a few birds that i really don't want to lose its not easy getting good stock and i think i have been very fortunate that i have been given the opportunity to gather a number of good birds from various breeders whom i respect i just dont want to risk my birds dieing as something was over looked i know anyone else would be trying thier all to find out whats going on as for not wanting to medicate of course i dont want to if its not necessary but really i dont know whats necessary anymore at all its all a bit over whelming for me although im coping im just at a loss seeing my normally fantastic looking vibrant birds look a tad under weather

is he not an important cock bird to u ren as i feel it was not a good thing to do putting a healthy bird in with one who has very clear sights of iill health the hen not only has bad eye but thinning why have you not taken her to a vet for testing ????? i guess you will find out if its transmittable by putting your cock in their with her so will find out weather or not its something contagious

bettie is right with what shes said but in my opinion the blue sky opaline spangle is not cinnamon as the markings look to dark in this picture but themn you said their was no marking so.... only u will know for sure as pics are so unpredictable

mabe not to lay right up but yes she is cleaning nest

I have a relative high up in the police force....he has advised some measures that I havent disclosed here You are smarter than the average bear arent you GB not sure about smarter but not a dim as some would suspect im a bit of a false outer proseption to people kaz

hi everyone i have decided im not happy with my vets report theirs to many inconsistancys so i wrote a e mail and sent it today it reads like this Hello dr ......... Im writing with concern about my birds diagnoses It was said in the first report given that my bird did not die from meggabac Or that canker was not a problem too my flock It is obvious that my birds have a repertory problem this is still evident in most of them today With sneezing and fluffing becoming a normal sight in my aviary Im really not sure what to think anymore and im not sure im happy with my outcome from your surgery I came to u as I was told you were the best of the best I feel you have just blown my birds health off with the second best diagnoses you could find when its obvious to me that there is more going on with my birds than suggested, And im worried that I may lose more birds one by one over the next few months due to not getting a proper answer to their problem I do not understand how my birds can be clear of problems when clearly their breathing is not to scratch with very obvious wheezing in a lot of birds with brown staining above the Ceres Is their anything else my birds could have contracted that has theses signs and is there any think I can resolve the issue with I am quiet happy to spend the money needed to get to the bottom of this as these birds are worth all of my penny's in my opinion If I can save anymore from a fate of death then im very happy to do so The health of my stud has always been my utmost first priority and never in three years of breeding birds have I come across a problem Im worried if something is not done now and properly to get on top of this issue whatever it may be my birds are just going to go on and silently suffer , So I ask you once again please ,Is there anything else at all that could be causing these symptoms in my birds And lastly now that my birds have been treated with terbosole and doxcy for Terbosole….10 days Doxcy …25 days What should they be clear of…what exactly does doxcy treat for apart from clymidia if anything and would my birds be cured from any signs of canker or is it still possible that it did not resolve the bug ???? Sorry for all the questions as im new to all this medicating of birds and am really trying to get my head around it I was suggested to place the birds on a sulpher based medicine for 5 days would you suggest this or not With thanks ….leeia fox the reason i query them is in rereading their decishion about the discussion with me regarding canker and megga were ruled out im very confused at this and can not understand how i can be just let at treat the birds with pro bos and apple cider for 2 times weekly when some my birds still not well in an obvious was due to something of it appears to me now respiratory issue that is worsening could any one else have any ideas what may cause this birds are healthy apart from these signs and not all birds showing them id say out of 87 or so birds only 20 to 30 show signs but this for me is way to many could they just have a common cold due to the sudden weather extream changes and that be it ?????its been hot cold hotter cold suddenly for almost a week now and all birds are just showing now quiet obviously these signs only a few are with a vissable wezzing sound but all showing signs have the prominent brown staining above the cere i really want to get to bottom of this and get my birds back on trake if its a cold how do i treat this ?????as i feel this may be whats going on thanks gb here is the report i fist got Dear Leeia, Thank you for bringing your birds to see me today. As promised, below is a summary of the visit. Post Mortem Examination: A hen bird which died overnight. The bird was thin and looked to have vomit around her beak. On internal examination she had an enlarged liver and spleen. Her oviduct was enlarged, suggesting recent egg laying behaviour. No evidence of canker, coccidia or worms was seen. She did have moderate numbers of megabacteria in her proventriculus. No obvious lesions were seen in association with this and I don't believe that megabacteria is the cause of death. A swab was taken from her liver and spleen for a Chlamydia test. Live birds in clinic: All of these birds were thin. Most were bobbing their tails – this happens when they have trouble breathing and is suggestive of a respiratory infection. Crop flush: Several birds were negative, One bird had low numbers of canker Faecal Smears: No parasites found. We have identified at least two different problems in your birds today. Respiratory infection – probably Chlamydia (also known as Psittacosis). This disease causes sneezing, nasal discharge, tail bobbing, weight loss, green urates and many other general signs of illness. We have sent off a swab from the dead bird to check for this disease. If this is positive, we will treat all birds with Doxyvet in the water for 45 days. Canker – this was detected in only 1 bird so it is present in the aviary. I don't believe that this is causing a major problem for you at the moment but it should be treated before it becomes a problem. This will require ongoing treatment with Turbosole for control. Treatment required now: Doxyvet in drinking water – 1 scoop in 2L. Provide this fresh daily until I phone you with results – I expect this to be 2 weeks. While birds are on doxyvet it is best to remove mineral scources such as grit and calcium blocks. This should only be done if the birds are not breeding. Turbosole in drinking water – 1 scoop in 2L. Provide fresh daily for 10 days. This should be repeated every 3 months to control canker. When other medications are finished, probiotics should be used for several days. NOTE: When combining medications in the drinking water, add the scoop of each medication into the same 2L of water. Do not make up separate mixtures and combine as this will be diluting the medication Preventative Treatments: 1. Canker: Turbosole 1scoop in 2L drinking water for 10 days in a row every 3 months. 2. Coccidia: Baycox 3ml in 1L drinking water for 7 days in a row every 3 months. 3. Worms: Ivermectin or Moxidectin as directed every 3 months for worms and mites. These treatments should be given soon before pairing each season. Please call if you have any further enquiries. Regards

This is true. I asked him alot of time about pictures fom the breeder who sell gave him those birds. I want to buy them but he never acept it. I proposed to buy some birds to the original breeder neither this way. May e all you are in the rihgt way. sorry darl but we are right their is no orange budgie gene