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Is there any other way to get her to eat? She's eaten a bit of seeds, plus the bit of handraising formula I managed to feed her..other than that, she hasn't eaten at all..mostly just preening and sleeping..Maybe I'm just being paranoid about it, but should she have eaten by now? (been like 3 hours since I took her out of the aviary)

Well, problem is, I don't have an quiet friendly males to put in with her..The only one slightly interested in feeding her is her brother from another clutch, but he mostly flirts with her..I gave her a bit of a feed but she mainly refused it..and I put her in a cage inside, with seed on the floor of the cage for her. She hasn't eaten any of that yet, but she is going to sleep at the moment..so I'll just watch her..is that all I can do?

Okay. It was at about this stage that I removed Storm's last clutch. But then Storm was a single mum..and there were two, so the oldest fed the youngest. The baby is cracking seed, and the mum is happy as long as the baby stays on the ground and off 'her' perches. Should I take the baby out and put her in with two other birds that are in their own smaller aviary, so maybe they can feed her? They are only about 4 months old, both of them.. Good idea...watch to be sure she eats....but sounds like the best way to go Okay, will do. I was hoping they may feed her if she begs, (seeing as they won't be as hostile to her as her mum is) or she even might watch them eating and follow their example. I've put her there now..and when I was holding her, she was soo skinny! (I could feel the bone on her chest very easily..) I suspect her mother hasn't been feeding her very much at all recently because she wants another clutch I suppose..Should I just watch and make sure she's eating/being fed, and if she isn't give her some handraising forumula, as she's so thin?

Okay. It was at about this stage that I removed Storm's last clutch. But then Storm was a single mum..and there were two, so the oldest fed the youngest. The baby is cracking seed, and the mum is happy as long as the baby stays on the ground and off 'her' perches. Should I take the baby out and put her in with two other birds that are in their own smaller aviary, so maybe they can feed her? They are only about 4 months old, both of them..

The baby has been sitting on a perch, not even close to the nestbox..but the mum keeps flying over to her..and the baby keeps begging for food from mum..but Storm keeps pecking her and chasing her around, not feeding her..and her dad seems curious and just watches the both of them. What should I do, neither are feeding her at the moment and she's just hiding because Storm is following her around and pecking at her. I've spread some seed on the ground, and the baby's been eating that, plus some grass (from sprouted seeds on the aviary floor)

Okay so put a second nestbox next to the mum's, and put the baby in there? What about when the baby goes in or out..wouldn't it go in the mum's one, or would she frighten her away if she has her next clutch there?

So the fact that I have them breeding in the aviary isn't a problem? Ie..because it's not a breeding cage the baby is further away from the dad so he might not notice her?

okay. I happen to have this pair (alone, at the moment) breeding the aviary. Would this be a problem..having the baby on the ground in the aviary? There are no other birds in it though. And yes, I do want her to raise a second clutch..they are both fine enough to, especially since the first lot was only one baby.

Do an icecream tub like the one shown. I use it lid off during the day ( base of tub upwards ) so the dads can see them and feed them and they can get in and out to try and feed themselves. At night it is turned over with the lid on it and the lid becomes the base. Wood shavings inside for warmth........and the icecream tubs will squeeze through the average cage door diagonally. Do you mean I should take the baby out and put it in the 'igloo'..so that it can sleep there at night and during the day dad can feed it, so the mum can lay her second lot?

Most babies fledge at 4-6 weeks so she is almost ready. You could try putting a container in the bottom of the breeder cage for her and then let Mum go ahead. Like this Igloo okay thanks. The reasons I was asking was that the mum might attack her baby, but also that the baby (who sleeps in the nest at night) would probably addle the new eggs. Especially since she practices flying in there (by flapping her wings madly sometimes)

My budgie, Storm, has finished her first clutch, (of one baby) and now wants to begin a second. She has laid one egg already (off of the perch during the night, so it is dead) and looks like she is going to lay another soon. The problem is, her baby is 31 days old, and has been sitting just outside of the nestbox almost all day for the last two days, but hasn't fledged yet. Should I take the baby out now, (it has been eating some seed) and watch to see if she eats, and perhaps put her with some other budgies that are young, so if she doesn't eat they may feed her..(if not, put her back or handfeed her?) so that Storm can have a second clutch.. Or do I leave the baby, and watch to make sure that Storm isn't attacking the baby to try to drive it away so she can lay another clutch, and let it fledge when ready? Thanks.

Not plum ....see our topic on that subject. here............. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....&pid=273380 PS sometimes it takes time for people to answer on here. okay I didn't think that she had plum eyes, was just making sure. Sorry no need to be sorry....asking is how we all learn Well, I only have one more little question..is how does Kyra not have plum eyes when she is a Recessive Pied, or do not all Rec. Pied's have to have plum eyes..

Not plum ....see our topic on that subject. here............. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....&pid=273380 PS sometimes it takes time for people to answer on here. okay I didn't think that she had plum eyes, was just making sure. Sorry

Tha's strange..because those are pics of Kyra when she was younger..do not all Recessive Pieds have plum coloured eyes when they are young?

Can someone please reply? Thanks. :rofl:

Alright, would you say that this: Is plum?

I've not heard of a poorly marked clearflight pied but that seems to be the only explanation If Banshee was split for Recessive Pied could that also contribute to the markings on the wings? Also Nev, do Recessive Pied babies have plum coloured eyes?

I think it makes sense that Banshee would be a Clearflight Pied, which is why he does have some clear flight feathers and the white around the neck..and also split for Recessive, because of his orange beak and the coloured flights as well..Would that be right? One thing confuses me though, is that I thought that even when newly hatched, Recessive Pied chicks have plum coloured eyes? Is that correct?

Looks like Storm is a spangle dominant pied ? But the flights being coloured make it unusual. Banshee must be dom pied if he has iris rings and blue cere. Funny how some budgies cross boundaries isnt it. Storm seems to fit into a category called the continental clearflight....possibly ? The Continental Clearflights are not as dramatically marked as the other pied mutations. Here, ideally, the flight feathers and the tail feathers should be clear. Very often some of these feathers will be normally colored. Continental Clearflights also have a patch of light feathers at the nape of the neck. Sometimes a Continental Clearflight will have all of the flight and tail feathers regularly marked. In this case they can only be told from the normal birds by means of the light patch by the base of the skull. Maybe Neville can shed some more light on her when he comes ON. Alright so we've pretty much got it sorted perhaps.. Kyra (that is the baby's name) is a Mauve/Violet Recessive Pied..her parents are a Mauve Normal/Recessive Pied and Storm. Storm is a Violet Spangle (Opaline?) maybe Continental Clearflight, definetly split for Recessive. And Banshee is a Cobalt/Violet Dominant Pied, maybe split for Recessive? (people said he was Recessive when he was younger, becuase he had, and still does have, a very orange beak, and no white band)

Anyone? Can anyone tell me what mutations Banshee and Storm could be? Thanks.

I can't get a good enough photo to show you Banshee's iris rings. Though I can definitly see the iris rings very easily with a torch. (one reason they are hard to see is because he only just finished his first moult) But he also can't be Recessive Pied because his cere is turning blue..doesn't it always stay pink for males? I've got a front photo of his mother a few pages back, but I'll post it again here: Alright so do you know or at least have an educated guess as to what mutations these three are? We've pretty much determined that the baby is a Mauve/Violet Recessive Pied..but what are Banshee and Storm?

Can anyone tell me what mutations my budgies are yet? It would be much appreciated. I'm very curious as to what they are.

lol well considering the quality of my camera, I don't think large and fuzzy will help much either. But here's the larger photos of Banshee: Storm: I made them very big for you. I'd really like to find out all of those bird's mutations now..I always assumed all three were Dominant Pied.

Doing them bigger or closer would help us all NOW Alright Kaz, which ones do you want bigger exactly?

Well, he doesn't have the small spot on the back of his head..If his mum is Clearflight Pied, then she would have to have the clear flight feathers wouldn't she? All the rest of the description of a Clearflight fits her except for that. Also, isn't there something about Recessive Pied that their eyes are a different colour when they hatch from normal chicks? okay sorry Kaz, I'll make them bigger if/when you's want any more photos.