JimmyBanks

good job splat. You've done well.

Yes Hopefully I'll be joining Chookbreeder09's club at Melton... That's the closest one to my new place I think. It's definitely the closest one to me now...

Great Idea Kaz. Must jot that one down for future reference...

Even though my almost three year old son has been told how to climb onto the big playground at the park he still needs my help doing so... This forum gives members ALOT of great information that helps our budgies stay fit and healthy but what this forum can not give is someone to have right there who I can call and say 'Hey Bart, I'm looking at my birds and something just doesn't look right you reckon you could pop round?' (And I don't think the forum should have to pay for 'tech support' for its members ) It would be fantastic if we had the Tonkins, Gazzards, Rowes here... if anyone knows them invite them! I've been reading this thread and found it great. I know its from an experienced breeders point of view, but If you'll allow I'll tell you the things that I'd like to find out as someone that wishes to join a club and start breeding next year after I've moved houses... I'd love to know what can go wrong. Having all the facts before me allows me to make a more informed decision... I'm the kind of person that can't stand surprises... take birthdays and christmas for example... I like to know what it is I'm getting. that way if I don't like it I have time to warm up to the idea or at least prepare myself to pretend to like it I'm the same with everything and so, I don't want any surprises... I buy 10 birds am told 5 are cocks 5 are hens... when I find out that they are all cocks you can bet I'm coming around to your place for a pleasant chat... Just looking at a bird WILL NOT tell me if the bird is, a good egg filler (in the case of a cock), a good egg layer (in case of a hen) wether they are good parents, it breeds well, what chicks it will reproduce (with 100% accuracy). All this information is passed onto me by 1 person, the person selling me the bird... What I would like as a beginner is to know that they arn't pulling the wool over my eyes. Sure when you cull you are of course not going to sell your best birds, thats not what I expect, what I would like is reliable information. For instance, if I come to you (an experienced breeder) and say, "I'm just starting out, I want a foundation Cock and Hen please," don't turn around and sell me a cock you KNOW shoots blanks and a hen that should she get pregnant by devine intervention will eat the eggs... or you can bet I'm coming around to your place for a pleasant chat... The biggest thing I'd want is 'Community', which isn't all that common nowadays... By joining a club I am saying I want to join you and become a part of your community. I don't want to be an outsider, I want to feel like I am accepted. Don't treat newbies with contempt... Yes it is obvious that you need a male and female bird to make babies but maybe I skipped health class in High School... As a beginner I'm going to ask stupid questions that one day someone will ask me... please just take a breath and offer a hand of help... Having been a member of this forum I now know what to look out for to determine sex, how healthy the bird is and other such things, but it would be REAL handy to have someone that I could ask for help in purchasing good birds for the price I pay. I guess what would be great is if there was some form of Mentoring or Apprenteship program at clubs... (This post is NOT about this forum, I have found the overwelming majority of people on this forum to be fantastic, friendly and helpful, but I am talking about Clubs, I have spoken to a number of different people on and off this forum who have told me stories about people who have ripped them off or treated them poorly from Clubs when they were beginners, that is sad, is it any wonder that we lose so many through the journey)

Are there any signs of anxiety or just moving around the cage?

This thread is really interesting to read. I'm enjoying the different perspectives. I've got no club experience so can't put my two bobs in but am enjoying reading everyone elses opinions... Thanks for starting it Renee

Has anyone seen the 2010 ANBC Picture Logo? Not sure if I'm allowed to post it up here as a picture so I'll just do the link... http://www.geocities.com/capbuds/ANBCShow_2010/Bull_logo.jpg - great cartoon picture...

I know I'm a bit late in this thread but just wanted to put up a couple of linksto a couple of my favourites... Firstly Daz's, I'd gladly take either his original or the second one in this thread... http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=12409 Then there is Kazzy's, probably not a show style set up but Iconic is how I describe it... I wish I was that talented... http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=24031 Both of these are vastly different in style but both are incredible. Use your imagination and I am sure you'll come up with an amazing one yourself. Really the possibilities are endless... I look forward to seeing/hearing about what you've dreamed up

Yeah I would wait until after the first moult before I got too worried.

congrats on the birds that you got I won't tell Greg if you don't tell him lol

According to the website its 19.99 pound... not sure if that includes postage and handling...

Genetics is a mystery to me... what I do know is this... always expect the unexpected...

Yeah that forum is... ... blah... ... I go on there occasionally but never really get into it... Seems to be a lot of factions and I get the impression they all talk like the Queen if ya know what I mean... A couple of people who used to be on this forum are over there but to be honest I prefer this one... I've read their comments and like you say they were a tad bit biased... Lets face it the FA1 stud won Best in Show at the 'World' Show 2 years running (not '09 but I'm not sure if they've had the '09 Show) so they've got to be doing something right but is it just a boring, Look at me look at me kinda dvd or will it actually have useful information to a nobody...

I haven't been able to see one anywhere... thats why I was kinda hoping that someone had seen it to let me know if it was worth watching or not...

wow what a seriously Red Hot thread. I mean this thread was an exciting read! I learnt heaps!!! e.i. No one cares about the Budgerigar DVD. lol

Yes she does. And I read somewhere she was doing a cull... thats outrageous. but hey If she's culling at least they are going to someone in the BBC...

I go away for a few months and this is what I come back too??? Are you serious?? KAZ is buying splats birds... splat is making travel cages... The people of this forum will one day rule the budgie world...

wow KAZ the birds look great!

agree with Liv. don't leave the egg in there all day, the last thing your birds need is salmonella...

Really great comparison photo. The birds are looking great! Hope they develop nicely and bring you a few prizes :bow:

if you can't buy one from GB then go to this website - http://www.bcv.asn.au/Clubs.html and find your nearest club and ask them if they know anyone that has any birds...

how long do you leave it in the water for 24 hours? from morning till evening? anyone know?

Good Luck Chrysocome! Hope you pass with flying colours.

Splat birds rock... so do renee's... and KAZ's and Daz's and Liv's... and...

thanks for sharing your pics with us. The birds look very nice. some of them are very lucky to have found you poor little birds..