Scaley Face Treatment

[Al@n 0]

Hi all, unfortunately I have discovered scaley face. I have decided to use canola oil as it is seed based. Question is how often do I treat, and how long will treatment be required. Thank you in advance. Cheers

[anne101 0]

Hi and welcome,....

 

You need to get Ivermectin from your Vet, one drop on the back of the neck is all it takes....you will need a consultation though....

[rachelm 0]

Hi and welcome,....

 

You need to get Ivermectin from your Vet, one drop on the back of the neck is all it takes....you will need a consultation though....

Or you can buy Invomec online http://cgi.ebay.com.au/IVOMEC-Pour-On-Catt...=item41527563c5

[GenericBlue 0]

or you can use your oil but i would suggest parifen oil and put on once a day for three weeks, then after three weeks again for a week then after three more weeks again for a week once every day each period this will suffocate any new hatched mites the hatch cycle is 6 weeks but repeate in three to make sure you got all new hatched from last cycle then tree to get any other eggs from the ones just before you suffercated them with first three week treatment

 

ivomectom is very quick n easy

but parifin works

[**KAZ** 0]

or you can use your oil but i would suggest parifen oil and put on once a day for three weeks, then after three weeks again for a week then after three more weeks again for a week once every day each period this will suffocate any new hatched mites the hatch cycle is 6 weeks but repeate in three to make sure you got all new hatched from last cycle then tree to get any other eggs from the ones just before you suffercated them with first three week treatment

 

ivomectom is very quick n easy

but parifin works

 

 

An explanation of how oil works makes me very happy to be using ivermectin.........one spot on the back of the neck under the feathers.....once only.......a whole lot less hassle.

 

PS It seems you have more than one pet type bird so why not use the ivermectin. You can also get the kind that goes in the water for the flock.

[anne101 0]

Hi and welcome,....

 

You need to get Ivermectin from your Vet, one drop on the back of the neck is all it takes....you will need a consultation though....

Or you can buy Invomec online http://cgi.ebay.com.au/IVOMEC-Pour-On-Catt...=item41527563c5

 

Thanks Rachelm...I did'nt know you could buy it online .....

[Al@n 0]

Thank you, ivomectom certainly looks the way to go, less dicken around. also what is this water treatment called.

[splat 0]

The one I use is S76 Ivermection, From dr Rob Marshell, there might be something else they are talking about.

Hi and welcome,....You need to get Ivermectin from your Vet, one drop on the back of the neck is all it takes....you will need a consultation though....

Or you can buy Invomec online http://cgi.ebay.com.au/IVOMEC-Pour-On-Catt...=item41527563c5

That bottle is miles too big, it has a life span you would never use by the time the use by date is up. If you decided to get such a big bottle you could go to your local grain stockist and it may be cheaper or at least you won't have to pay for postage. Better still do you know a farmer.Why don't you go to your vet any vet or a vet and just ask for it, say you want to use it for preventive for your birds for mites ect. That's what I did and do. I get about a 50 ml bottle for $15. and no some other people get it cheaper anyway that bottle last me for ages because you only put one drop on to the back of the head.. My vet told me it needs to be kept in a dark place as light makes it go off.

[RJT 0]

When I went to the vet to have my chicks checked out, I just asked the vet nurse for some, and she gave me a small amount in a bottle with a syringe and didn't even charge me for it. I have just kept it in the fridge for 'just in case'. As it turned out, I went to my friends place, and noticed one of their birds looked like it scaly mites, so I came home and we did all her birds, (20) and there is still enough to do mine if there ever seems a problem.

 

I think if the vet knew you, you could just ask for it.

 

Robyn

[GenericBlue 0]

The one I use is S76 Ivermection, From dr Rob Marshell, there might be something else they are talking about.

Hi and welcome,....You need to get Ivermectin from your Vet, one drop on the back of the neck is all it takes....you will need a consultation though....

Or you can buy Invomec online http://cgi.ebay.com.au/IVOMEC-Pour-On-Catt...=item41527563c5

That bottle is miles too big, it has a life span you would never use by the time the use by date is up. If you decided to get such a big bottle you could go to your local grain stockist and it may be cheaper or at least you won't have to pay for postage. Better still do you know a farmer.Why don't you go to your vet any vet or a vet and just ask for it, say you want to use it for preventive for your birds for mites ect. That's what I did and do. I get about a 50 ml bottle for $15. and no some other people get it cheaper anyway that bottle last me for ages because you only put one drop on to the back of the head.. My vet told me it needs to be kept in a dark place as light makes it go off.

 

 

vet also supplys mine for bit less but it is really easiest best way

one drop every three months and keep in fridge i was told

[Al@n 0]

As a reseacher, University level, I decided to investigate the benefits of a non sweat gland alternatives.Then I discovered that like budgies dogs had no sweat glands. therefore it was important to proceed. Further, then understanding glandular network I could then find a product. Well it worked out that frontline could be a possibilty. This theory was based on pure molecular theory. Therefore I invested in some frontline plus.I knew this was a gamble. To date the results indicate that my theory was correct, this is based ,on how this particular drug works. To my surprise it has invigorated the bird, and I believe this should prove successful. I would like to add that this particular experiment is based on much research and knowledge of drugs. I do not wish that people undergo such experiments witout thorough knowledge and expertise, although your gut feeling can direct you. The outcome of this experiment in is only in its initial stages, and has not been tested for ferrility or longevity of this species.

[GenericBlue 0]

As a reseacher, University level, I decided to investigate the benefits of a non sweat gland alternatives.Then I discovered that like budgies dogs had no sweat glands. therefore it was important to proceed. Further, then understanding glandular network I could then find a product. Well it worked out that frontline could be a possibilty. This theory was based on pure molecular theory. Therefore I invested in some frontline plus.I knew this was a gamble. To date the results indicate that my theory was correct, this is based ,on how this particular drug works. To my surprise it has invigorated the bird, and I believe this should prove successful. I would like to add that this particular experiment is based on much research and knowledge of drugs. I do not wish that people undergo such experiments witout thorough knowledge and expertise, although your gut feeling can direct you. The outcome of this experiment in is only in its initial stages, and has not been tested for ferrility or longevity of this species.

 

 

i dont care what level researcher you are what right do you have to take any animal into your own hands and test your theory on it :yuck:

 

i think that weather the bird lives or not

their are enough products out their that work just fine with out you doing your own experimental work looked into or not

i find it rather cruel

you may as well doused your bird in mentholated spirit it would have also killed the mite but like you im not sure on the fertility or longevity

[Al@n 0]

I feel as a consistant replier to forum comments that you feel that you have some sort of power. As an acedemic that knows how to spell (whether) I suspected that I would encounter non objective members. You have attempted to insult me, and my intelligence. However, I feel that you have exposed a lack of knowledge. You have not read my investigation, and have not read the point I have made. I do not believe that you have added to this discussion in a positive way, and request that this is a forum designed and promote this wonderful breed. I do not believe that this forum was created for you to attack members that are seeking to provide information that many be effective and benefital. You need to consider how your individual socialisation effects your ability to be objective and sensible. Cheers

[GenericBlue 0]

I feel as a consistant replier to forum comments that you feel that you have some sort of power. As an acedemic that knows how to spell (whether) I suspected that I would encounter non objective members. You have attempted to insult me, and my intelligence. However, I feel that you have exposed a lack of knowledge. You have not read my investigation, and have not read the point I have made. I do not believe that you have added to this discussion in a positive way, and request that this is a forum designed and promote this wonderful breed. I do not believe that this forum was created for you to attack members that are seeking to provide information that many be effective and benefital. You need to consider how your individual socialisation effects your ability to be objective and sensible. Cheers

 

sure i can not spell but nor do you know my level of intelligence able to spell or not

i dont find you expressing your research as a good thing on this forum im sorry but their are to many people on here that would just look and say oh well alan is a researcher and he used frountline so it will be fine, then all their birds die and ....

im not trying to insult you im simply saying it is not a thing i would freely express to other until the whole research has been done and proven seems to me your the one trying to big note your self not me i am simply stating that i believe it is cruel to experiment on animals ful;l stop with out proven evidance their would be no after efects which you have stated their may be

so mate dont try make me look stupid sure im not the sharpest tool but im not as dim as i sim either

[**KAZ** 0]

As ADMIN I will step in and say a couple of things here.

 

Alan......whilst you seem to have enough faith in your research etc to have taken the steps you did you also admit you dont know the longterm consequences of what you think worked. As we have many underaged members on here we do have a DUTY OF CARE in the knowledge we impart. We cant have some of our young members getting their dogs spot on and dosing their budgies willy nilly, no advise of dosage or longterm effects etc and then their parents coming back at us saying they learnt it here and now their budgie is dead. Some things are best not said out aloud sometimes.

GB and Alan............no need to make assumptions on a persons standard of education based on spelling. There are a few people on here who are dyslexic but that doesnt make them stupid because they have issues with the written word. My husband is dyslexic and I have to help him all the time. If posts written down dont read well due to this I try to subtly correct to make it readable but not necessarily take over a whole post and spellcheck unless that person is having a real bad day. Its give and take.

 

Perhaps in light of thinking of the whole picture..............i.e. ages of members, duty of care in advice given out etc etc...........we should rein in some of the comments along the lines of those in this topic by BOTH SIDES PLEASE !!!!!!!!!

 

Edited September 2, 2010 by KAZ

[GenericBlue 0]

yes kaz i understand and was only trying to put forward what you said propply

i was just so stunned to see some one say something so un finished and as you said and i tryed to say to many people may just read and try themselfs

as im dislexic myself i totally know where your going with that and know all to well the feeling of being down graded on not only my spelling but my sometimes inability to write infomation and responses as most can mine ones always come out not quiet right although im open to being asked

what the !!!!

sorry i guess i was bit anoyed of being classed as stupid for my inability to spell and sometimes say things in context

sorry alan i was just trying to say what kaz did but your right my social skills leave much to dezire i know this

[Jack Robinson 0]

Ivermectin is the thing that works by far the best.. If i knew how i would do a link to some before and after shots of mine...

 

Good luck with oil but. Let us know how it goes.

[nubbly5 0]

Fipronil (the active in frontline) is a very effective extoparasiticide (mites lice etc) but maybe it's best we leave Alan to experiment on his own birds and tell us his findings, as there is no work that I can find that has been done on budgie parasites. There is a restriction of use of fipronil on poultry but that's probably because withholding periods have not been established for eggs or meat from these birds. It HAS been successfully used on other small animals though. BUT it will not treat endoparasites (worms) so ivermectin remains as the product of choice for me.

 

And GB your social skills are just fine - don't let anyone tell you otherwise! We know you have the birds best interests at heart always and we love you for it!

[GenericBlue 0]

Fipronil (the active in frontline) is a very effective extoparasiticide (mites lice etc) but maybe it's best we leave Alan to experiment on his own birds and tell us his findings, as there is no work that I can find that has been done on budgie parasites. There is a restriction of use of fipronil on poultry but that's probably because withholding periods have not been established for eggs or meat from these birds. It HAS been successfully used on other small animals though. BUT it will not treat endoparasites (worms) so ivermectin remains as the product of choice for me.

 

And GB your social skills are just fine - don't let anyone tell you otherwise! We know you have the birds best interests at heart always and we love you for it!

 

 

thanks nubbly 5 but i dont think this was the best way to express my

dis like for alans home testing for his research on this product

you may as well doused your bird in mentholated spirit it would have also killed the mite but like you im not sure on the fertility or longevity hurryup.gif wacko.gif blink.gif

 

 

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im sure i could of thought about it first guess my blunt sarcasm isnt always best

oh well its nice to know some love me thanks

as for the birds well i just feel we should treat them with the utmost respect,and never risk them with anything untill fully proven , after all they do for us the one thing no one person can do in my eyes

they are already slaves to our want and desire if you think about it so the least we can do is treat them best we can as a gratitude to their services to us

and the joy some of them lose their lifes to give us

[splat 0]

GB don't let people put you down, your social skills are just fine.

And guessb what I am NOT dyslexic but my spelling on here is **** sometimes.

MY reason are : I can't see the key board, age is a pain in the backside sometimes. Blind as a bat these days:P

:I don't have spell check on here, and that sucks

: I type too fast and hit the wrong letters oops, well actually t looks like a y and so on.

And as for social skills, I sometimes don't have a lot to say .

Edited September 2, 2010 by splat

[Finnie 0]

As a reseacher, University level, I decided to investigate the benefits of a non sweat gland alternatives.Then I discovered that like budgies dogs had no sweat glands. therefore it was important to proceed. Further, then understanding glandular network I could then find a product. Well it worked out that frontline could be a possibilty. This theory was based on pure molecular theory. Therefore I invested in some frontline plus.I knew this was a gamble. To date the results indicate that my theory was correct, this is based ,on how this particular drug works. To my surprise it has invigorated the bird, and I believe this should prove successful. I would like to add that this particular experiment is based on much research and knowledge of drugs. I do not wish that people undergo such experiments witout thorough knowledge and expertise, although your gut feeling can direct you. The outcome of this experiment in is only in its initial stages, and has not been tested for ferrility or longevity of this species.

 

 

I find this a bit ironic!

 

[nubbly5 0]

As a reseacher, University level, I decided to investigate the benefits of a non sweat gland alternatives.Then I discovered that like budgies dogs had no sweat glands. therefore it was important to proceed. Further, then understanding glandular network I could then find a product. Well it worked out that frontline could be a possibilty. This theory was based on pure molecular theory. Therefore I invested in some frontline plus.I knew this was a gamble. To date the results indicate that my theory was correct, this is based ,on how this particular drug works. To my surprise it has invigorated the bird, and I believe this should prove successful. I would like to add that this particular experiment is based on much research and knowledge of drugs. I do not wish that people undergo such experiments witout thorough knowledge and expertise, although your gut feeling can direct you. The outcome of this experiment in is only in its initial stages, and has not been tested for ferrility or longevity of this species.

 

 

I find this a bit ironic!

 

 

Finnie - I'm shocked

[GenericBlue 0]

okay guys let just call this topic closed hey Edited September 2, 2010 by GenericBlue