Split For Blue?

[chrissy0705 0]

This is one of my hens. From what I'm told she is a green dominate pied clear wing, but I not sure if she might be split for blue.... I was looking in the aviary the other day and noticed what seems to be a "blue" feather below her vent at the base of the underside of her tail..... check out this picture and tell me if this is actually a blue feather and if so does that mean she is split for blue????

 

THanks so much

 

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PS I'm sorry for the photo size, I have been trying to edit the size in my photobucket, but I am getting an error message and booted out of photobucket if I try to do any type of editing to my photos????? So I am sorry, I'm not being lazy or careless.... just can't get it to work!!!

 

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reduced because too large, if you can not resize please just leave the link thank you

Edited August 25, 2008 by Elly

[Norm 0]

It looks like your bird could be a Dominant Pied, but because we can’t see the wing area enough I can’t tell about the Clearwing part, but I would think that it is just a heavily Pied bird. The Blue suffusion in the vent & leg area is quite common in some Green birds, it could mean that it is split Blue or even masking Yellow Faced Blue, but without knowing it’s parent, test breeding it would be the only way to know for sure & see what it produced. To find out it would have to be mated to a Blue series bird.

[chrissy0705 0]

It looks like your bird could be a Dominant Pied, but because we can't see the wing area enough I can't tell about the Clearwing part, but I would think that it is just a heavily Pied bird. The Blue suffusion in the vent & leg area is quite common in some Green birds, it could mean that it is split Blue or even masking Yellow Faced Blue, but without knowing it's parent, test breeding it would be the only way to know for sure & see what it produced. To find out it would have to be mated to a Blue series bird.

 

 

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Maybe this picture will help, this is her on the right... she is heavily pied... as for pairing her with a blue she is still too young to breed (waiting until January), but she is already bonded to a Green Opaline cock... so I guess I won't be able to tell unless I split them up and find a blue mate when she is ready.

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited August 25, 2008 by KAZ

[Elly 0]

She is a Dominant Pied (not heavily marked at all) as it is split for blue it is hard to tell.

[chrissy0705 0]

She is a Dominant Pied (not heavily marked at all) as it is split for blue it is hard to tell.

 

 

Why do you say not "heavily marked"? Maybe I do not understand that term as I thought it to be... can you explain?

 

Also, so the one "blue" feather below her vent is not necessarily an indication she is split for blue??? The only way to tell would be to breed her (when she is of age to do so) with a blue as Norm suggested...???

Edited August 25, 2008 by chrissy0705

[**Liv** 0]

I would say its a yellow face type 2 dominant pied. - not a green bird

[Norm 0]

After seeing your second picture, I agree with Liv…your birds looks like a Yellow Faced 2 Blue, Dominant Pied, Normal…no Clearwing…the wings are just clear because of the Pied colouring.

So even though it looks Green it really is a Blue bird genetically so it would be best mated with a Blue when you breed otherwise if mated with a Green the YF2 Blue will be masked unless the Green bird is split for Blue.

Edited August 25, 2008 by Norm

[*libby* 0]

The green looks to definate green to be a yf blue...?

as it's only a light green having yf2 wash over it should have turned it seafoam - had it of been sky blue, or Aqua- had it of been cobalt

 

There's no definate way to tell if she's split blue, as they say, test breeding.

[**Liv** 0]

I still think YF2

 

This is one of my boys. He is a YF2 (violet i think) - his mum is a violet YF2 Opaline and dad is a sky blue dominant pied

 

 

[*libby* 0]

Was he aviary bred Liv?

Looks like a bit of hanky panky went on elsewhere

[**Liv** 0]

Yes, but i don't have ANY green males and i only got my first green hen about a month ago

I will look for his baby picture as it shows his blue

 

Here he is as a bub and just starting his moult

he still has blue under his tale too.

 

I just caught him

Here is his underside and you can see the blue

 

 

So anyway, I have found that with YF2's sometimes the only way to tell them from a green is to look for blue under the tail, hence why i think Crissy's budgie is a YF2 - dosen't mean i am right though :hap:

Edited August 26, 2008 by **Liv**
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[Sunnie 0]

Pretty colours Liv!

[charlie2479 0]

hey chrissy she has a ring on, did you get her from the breeder? if not you could try to find him/her? If you really want to know then they might have it on record (most good breeders keep detailed records)

[*Nerwen* 0]

i say this bird is a green nto yellowface the blue feather picture doesn't show a a stong blue tone to the feathers (don't forget normal green do have blue included) and this bird is younger than Liv's. (which i would love to steal by the way)

[chrissy0705 0]

hey chrissy she has a ring on, did you get her from the breeder? if not you could try to find him/her? If you really want to know then they might have it on record (most good breeders keep detailed records)

Yes she has a band, how do I find this breeder on line??? I bought this one from a local pet store.I'm totally lost on this one now.... Patches, my prettiest bird (in my opinion)... What I thought to be green may be blue, what I thought to be clearflight is normal... ??? She's too young to breed so I can't "test breed" yet. If she's paired with a green cock, I'm gonna get green chicks, right?? The only way to tell if she is blue is to breed her with a blue bird, right?? Can a bird be blue and split for green, no, right???

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I hope i did this right since my photo resize is not working, but here are some random pics of her anywhere from 4 months old to recent. Maybe some of these pics could help determine what Patches is???

Edited August 26, 2008 by chrissy0705

[Rainbow 0]

You can check the feathers under the bend of the wing, if your bird is blue they should show blue there even if the rest of the bird seems 'green'. If they are green I think the bird is green-base and not blue-base.

[*Nerwen* 0]

those pictures of the bird as a baby and young one clearly so that it is green. If in the nest shot that is the mother (albino) and a sibling (blue pied) then the bird is split blue as the mother is a blue lined bird.

Edited August 27, 2008 by Nerwen

[chrissy0705 0]

those pictures of the bird as a baby and young one clearly so that it is green. If in the nest shot that is the mother (albino) and a sibling (blue pied) then the bird is split blue as the mother is a blue lined bird.

 

 

The photo (the nest shot) is not actually a nest shot, it is a shot of the bottom of the old aviary. The other birds are not siblings or parents.... BUT the blue pied bird was purchased at the same time same place as Patches... their bands are different colors

[*libby* 0]

Definatly a green bird

[*Nerwen* 0]

okay thanks for that info Chrissy...it is still possible that they birds you got together are siblings, as breeders will sell birds all together. But you will have to wait like all others to see if the bird is split blue or not.