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What an excellent day! You're welcome!!! anytime! xx

Firstly, I personally do not believe anyone is jumping down anybodies throat. The forum is simply here to educate. In each country they try to lay claim to that which is not theirs and even to change that which it always has been. Although these are Australian birds we do not claim them to be "Australian budgies" etc. We don't go to an "Australian show" to show them or buy them as "Australian pets". Which is why it is non-sense to call them "American or English" as they don't take them to an "American show" ... The simple fact of the matter is that it is based on type. English and American are not types. They're names of places which they wish for it to be seen they come from. Just to differentiate between "show and pet. Keeping it as Show and Pet has been the way for many years. Although being native our country name does not come into the equation. They're what they're. Budgies. A name derived from aboriginal language to mean "good eating". This forum is only here to educate on the terminology which although is not YET worldwide should be, with no claim lying to any country but only to the "type" of budgie they're. If they go to shows or are bred for shows they're show types... if they're smaller kept in aviaries as pets they're pet types. It makes things a whole lot easier than country names and should be a universally used term. The only way to get the information out there to those who're unable to be told the proper terms is to hand on the knowledge. That is all that is being done I believe.

Congratulations Welcome aboard!!!!

Gorgeous!!! <3 <3

Aww so sorry to hear about Andre's chick Kaz keep it up though, I hope he gives you lots more!!!

HAHA I'd just recommend more cages then You'll have to seperate them all out to what works for them

haha oh no no no Mr pancakes is a real rabbit at the bottom of the aviary haha If the hens are getting really distraught by it seperate the cock http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....amp;hl=pancakes He seems annoyed about it in this, but now days he just sits there and lets them They do it on his head and all sorts, he doesn't care, i think he just likes the company haha!

I'd say you're probably right over preening by the cock

Haha you need to get him a "scape goat" or rather in my aviary for the randy birds I have a "scape bunny" They all wear their *****-ness off on him hahahaha My poor Mr pancakes, but he doesn't mind... My tame boys get a rope swing to get their "jive" on with Whatever works will work

It sure is an open forum with each to express their opinion Don't take other peoples to heart Shauna... as, if they get over zealous with their response the moderating team will be on it quick smart Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and no one will be singled out for their own opinion It happens many time's on this forum, but try to take it with a skip in your step knowing that you're doing what you feel is the best for your birds even if someone else doesn't think so

I'm very much so the same, rip them off the tree, give them a rinse, a once over for anything visible and then in they go... all the native birds around here eat from around my aviaries anyway so the way I see it aslong as I try to keep them up with their ivermectin and woming it's the best I can do... if they get sick from it (which touch wood, they haven't yet ) then I'll have to deal with it, but either way they'd get it from the birds around branches or no branches P.s. Shauna, great to see you on the forum Quails are doing GREAT and loving their new home!

Wow i feel like a rip off artist haha! Any bird that leaves my home goes for $35 hand tame... all others are kept as either life time breeders/pets Other than that i do a yearly cull of breeding stock that go for between 10-15 - these are generally the pet birds i've bought in over the years... I don't think I've sold any of my adult birds that I myself bred as they all end up with a name and a life time home if i keep them once past taming point

Congratulations He's beautiful!

I'd say just a mauve opaline but rather cute

Dad only needs to be split to create albinos It's a guaranteed female