Daryl

Hmmmm, not sure that I'll commit to selling these ones JUST yet Maybe a couple of those weird feathered things :rofl: Just kidding about the "sold sign", if they were mine I know they'd be "not negotiable" for some time yet! The weird feathered things: umm........aaaaahhhhhh.......oh, I think I heard the phone ring, gotta go!

I only intervene when it actual hatching appears to have stalled. ie. There has been some attempt to break the eggshell but no progress over a few hours. I don't get them all right and sometimes leave it too late as you don't know how long they have been struggling. But as GB pointed out it's very easy to get impatient and help one out only to find the yolk sac still attached at which point the chick has no hope. I hatched one this morning (no, it wasn't me sitting in a nest of straw keeping the egg warm) which had a very noisy chick and had an intermittently perforated shell. It was obvious in this case that the chick was turning but not cutting and had I left it I believe it would have eventually died. I removed it and it came out with no yolk sac and looking perfectly normal so I reckon it has a good chance of being alive when I get home tonight. On the downside, I also hatched another on the weekend which was also ready to leave the egg, but upon hatching this one appeared to have something wrong with it's neck (hence the difficulty hatching). I didn't give it much hope and upon checking the next day found it hadn't survived (even though it was with a reliable hen). As a general rule you're probably better off just letting nature take it's course unless you're absolutely certain the chick won't break out on it's own. It's not a very nice feeling hatching out underdone chicks and having them die. In my neck of the woods I find that August/September is the main time for chicks becoming stuck. This coincides with the driest months of the year in my area according to the BOM website. It will probably differ around the country.

Plenty of potential in that lot splat. I particularly like the Normal Violet UBC on the third row and the Cinn Grey Green Alan Rowe line birds.

Put the sold sign on the Lacewing and split They should be very nice if the parents are anything to go by.

Hi all, Just wanted to announce that our club now has a website with most of the standard stuff. Also includes pictures of some of the winners from our shows. Have a look here: http://ipswichbudgerigar.webs.com Daryl

Oh, I forgot to mention, each of my breeding cages has pay TV installed and hardwired to the Discovery channel WAY too much excitement to pluck!

Haven't heard this theory before but it may be on the money. In the 3 years since I've been breeding budgies again I have not had a single case of feather plucking. Not one. Until I read your post I thought perhaps it was just good luck. However now I think it may have something to do with the abundance of cuttlefish I supply which, being from the beach, is high in salt. I wonder........

I could, but I think it's a bit early to guess yet and would most probably just be misleading you. Be interested to see what they are too and also to see a picture of the Mum.

The 1.0 is the cock and the 0.1 is the hen. Lacewing is given as cinnamon ino.

GB, if you're after something to give you genetic percentages, want something that's free and you can play all you want then I may have a solution: The Genetic Calculator. It's a web based application developed for many species of birds including budgerigars. Here's the address: Genetic Calculator Best just to spend some time playing with it to get the hang of it. However, two tips to get you started: 1. If you select nothing this is the equivalent of a Normal Light green. From here you add factors (eg Dark, Wing Variety, double factor etc) to build up the variety and colour you're after. 2. You will not see "cock' and "hen". Instead these are replaced by 1.0 and 0.1 respectively. It generally works pretty well but I'm still unsure about the yellowface expectations

The dom pied and the sky violet may turn out be show quality, and the dark green I am not sure about yet...maybe not. I'm not sure about the Dark Green either but I'm keen to see what it looks like AFTER the first moult, in particular the cap colour!

Bad photo..the dom pied is a cock. So he is! I'm on a different monitor today he he ain't looking like a hen now! Still nice though.

Wow, huge win by Mountain. I don't remember a team winning by that much for a while. I guess Shep & Flan won a few?

Hope it goes okay today. Shame how these things seem to drag on.

How on earth did he get albino out of a yellowfaced lacewing spangle - Could he not see the wing marking due to the spangles? Further to that, a simple Yellow Face Albino would go in the Yellow Face class, not the Albino class!

Seeing as the National Matrix doesn't recognise the combination of Spangle and Lacewing, it would go in the AOV non-standardised.

Splat, do you have a separate class for Normal Violets at the UBC Shield? Your Violet should go okay.

Very nice. I particularly like the DP Grey Green hen and the Sky cock.

This thread was a wake up call for me. I've just bred a Dom Pied Lacewing (don't ask, I knew the chances, rolled the dice and got one!) that I was assuming I could show as a Dom Pied. However, on reading this and examining the ANBC Standard it seems she will have to go in the AOV Non-standardised. The main implication I see with this is she is no longer eligible for the DP variety award, but still for the best in Section (although at this stage I don't think she's any world beater). Will have to post a picture of her soon as I'd never seen a DP LW before and I'd think few on here would have either. When deciding in which class to enter a bird I personally think the ANBC matrix (which Daz posted in the OP) is the easist document to understand and clear things up.

Congrats on your wins Daz, good job to pick up that many in one show. Any chance of some pics of the winners? I was looking to show at this one but 2 things stopped me: 1. It was on Father's Day, and 2. I didn't have a single YB or Nestfeather for it anyway! :fingerscrossed: I should have a few babies ready to go for Ipswich next month.

After Gina's post above I spent some time reading the ANBC Minutes (yes, I have no life ) and, given the number of times it took to finally get resolution on the Sept 1st issue date, a move to Jul 1st will be about as much fun for the ANBC as sand in your undies! :glare: Now THAT is SAD Darryl you truely have no life. Reading through all those ANBC minutes would have been as much fun as sand in your undies anyway!!!!!!!Not quite THAT bad, I did have a bit of help from the Ctrl F function. I'd still be going now if I read all of that lot! okay, back to the sand pit......... Dunno about that, bit like "you can lead a horse to water....." Maybe your conditions are more conducive to successful breeding than what my birds experience. But I can give mine "The Hilton" and, even if compatible, if one isn't ready to breed there won't be any chicks. Personally Sept 1st seems to suit my birds' breeding habits. The only issue I have is that the National has evolved from a Young Bird championship to an almost Old Bird championship over the years.

:hurryup: Yeh, c'mon Dave, how 'bout some more stinkin' pictures? (I probably should make more of an effort to post a few myself!)

And ironically it used to be a July 1st ring issue many years ago when the Nationals began. But the difference was that those birds would appear at the National the next year, not 2 years later (meaing a maximum age of 11 months). Not sure when it changed to Jan 1st but I think it was in the 80's sometime.

After Gina's post above I spent some time reading the ANBC Minutes (yes, I have no life ) and, given the number of times it took to finally get resolution on the Sept 1st issue date, a move to Jul 1st will be about as much fun for the ANBC as sand in your undies!

Daryl only birds with the 09 rings,can be shown in Rocky,if you have put on the 010 rings,they will be okay for the 011 National, Yep, I get that Macka. I just don't get why we have changed the rules to exclude such a large group of previously eligible young birds from being classified as young birds next show season. In the past there have been birds as young as 5 months old at the Nats. Now the youngest young bird which can be shown at the Nats will be 9 months old (unless of course someone was to continue using the 09 rings for the rest of the year). I'm led to belive one of the reasons for bringing put forward the ring issue was to allow breeders to breed from their champs before they attanded the Nats as some breeders believe the experience of birds attending the Nats causes them to breed poorly (if at all) the following season.