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okay but how r chicks feeding if they r in box? Try and post photos of the chicks and whole scenario. Cage size, parents, otherwise we will b putting a little stone up at 1 of the birdie funeral grounds!

Aquafroste I don't know if the co-ordinators r going to give me flack4 this reply:I've never seperated the parents while feeding the chicks,my females all peck+are temperamental towards the male at times. I don't think the male shud hav bn removed.that's why he's frantic!you might perceive the "pecking" as harmful when I think its actually begging or pestering mom4 food.I ve had my budgies hatch several clutche s +i've never had bloodshed or death-bickering but no blood!

Must check...its called Avian by Aqua for scaly mites on legs+beak??? Nothing else on label! Then I have mediworm powder contains Pyrantel Palmoate+Praziquantel. We r in South africa-avian vets non existant!

I've only got mite spray, and then a drop behind neck for scaly mite-is that what Invermectin is?

Hold chick upside down an fluff crop feathers up, you shud see the seethrough skin,alernatice feel around neck.Crop is a soft mushy ball in front of beak and surrounds neck.just feel if food in it. I agree with you Finnie, I presumed the babies to be not older than3 weeks but they could b older. I've observed it now with my 4 pairs that mom's sit on guard+ Dad runs his head off! Finch dads r so dedicated but I thought the budgie mom won't allow male in box, well so you learn everday!

Hi Finnie thanks for all your efforts. Those pics r my IRN s two females. They r in a huge cage on my enclosed Patio. I rescued them from a fleemarket vendor-they r old according to their rings but I am caring for them... Ever the rescuer! I do breed bengalese finches+ zebra finches and handrear the runts. My main focus is on budgies for their beautiful colours and mutatiions. I also have 6 lovebirds Finnie.

You'll have to intervene fast! Or de baby will die. I give my birds pro-nutro or baby cereal no1 diluted with water. The rice baby cerealn then put a drop on his tongue or against beak-they catch on quick they r being fed +shud gobble at syringe or bent spoon. I feed with Herbalife spoon. that's to get them to eat until you get small packet of parakeet breeders mix, grated apple in mix also hydrates them, its similar to feedin a baby. Don't squirt or force into mouth past tongue as it may enter airpipe+choke them. Else take greedy piggy out for a while say 30 minutes, keep him warm, and watch that momfeeds the bigger one.then return piggym their crOps should look like little baloons or sacs full of squashy mush. In bigger or smaller birds you can c the millet seed in their crops!

Just make sure they are being fed by mom and that their crops are full by nightfall. Your situation is so strange. Dad feeds mom and mom feeds babies. That's the normal and correct order of budgies.I'm just concerned they get fed.

Its normal for the younger ones to hide in box and older ones to hang out with mom and Dad Sorry got it wrong but some siblings are leaders and some are timid. I have 11 chicks at moment,been doing this for 3 years.I've had bigger chicks trample smaller ones in eagerness to be fed by Mom. When were these darlings born? Most chicks are afraid to exit the box and take that big step! Quite normal. They are scared they might not be able to get back in nestbox when they need to.

HI HAS ANYONE EVER HAD A BLACK AND WHITE STRIPES AND CHECK BUDGIE LIKE THIS? WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THIS MUTATION?

I have an English Budgie. He was obviously a rejected show budgie but he's in tip top form again as him and his Albino female are resting for a few months.put on weight after babies. He's eyes can almost not be seen from the high forehead and feathers, he's larger than American budgies. He has amazing feathers and colours around the crop- like little fans, his 1 daughter Powder has the look too. Maybe I will get a duster 1 day,who knows.

What? I thought females fight ?! Well there were boxes available but they are sisters from same clutch, so maybe they remained bonded! Well budgielov3r I am amazed.so I learn everyday:D

I've never heard of a budgie owner being scared to be bitten? Mine bite me in Aviary and its hard and sore but not lifethreatening! Do you not play or handle your budgies at all? I taught one of my budgies to step up and down on my finger, and hand upside down and turn her head left and right in 1 day. She still does it till today!her name is Peanut! Just handle them Aquafroste! You must be able to enjoy your budgies otherwise what's the point of having them? You can tame those chicks 1 2 3. Just talk to them and cuddle them everyday, handle them. I taught my other budgie Fievel to sit on my hand and give me little nibbles,I scratch her head and she does the wolf whistle. She can also whistle part of old Macdonald had a farm+some other tunes all within 6 months. And she was a runt of the clutch and in danger of dying. I removed her from clutch trying to trample her and handreared her till she was fully feathered.come on you can do this! Just go for it.

Hi Finnie, I need to give Baytril 4 ten days, then I continue with pro biotics and a multivit, digestive enzyme,electrolite solution! Thhanks for your help. She doesn't look sick but I know its not normal for millet to poop out whole. Does she maybe have worms?that can stunt growth+weight? Can I give dewormers now though? She will be on Baytril until Tuesday.so 2 more days. I've added Jap Millet&groats,red Manna,yellow Manna to her millet. Today was disinfect&cleaning day of all cages and aviary so will shred veggies for them all tomorrow. I gave her some beetroot but she just ignored it. She also had an hour of direct morning sun yesterday+today.

Thank u so much4 info now at least I know I hav a cinnamon! Presume a show budgie+ a feather r also completely different things... Aha I get it. Thought dusters were bred for shows.

How do you get a duster? I would love 2 of those!!! All your birds are gorgeous! I'm uploading photos to my Breeding journal tomorrow hopefully if people will allow me to do something for myself instead of attending to their needs. I think I might have a Lacewing- Is this a Lacewing???? her mom was an Albino and the Dad a normal showbudgie yellow and olive green here's Mom and Dad

he he he sounds like my household!- Aviary outside but Cages galore in my Patio area, 2 Dogs running around. my 2 cats, my daughters 2 cats being babysitting, 2 Tortoises! Gekkos all round, and I even had a pet Cameleon or 2. used to put them out in Garden and always found them at same place at sunset-into potplants for night-then out to garden early morning for dewdrops. What fun we are having in the sun! ha ha ha

I want to start a breeding journal on your Breeders Forum. Attached is the photo of my first hen bought in 2011, Lilly. She is also an Albino. I placed her with my first ever Male bought who is a show-budgie, English Budgie origin called Poff Poff-sweet and gentle bird. Now, two of my females (which we refer to as the twins) have started sharing a box and both laid eggs and hatched them with both having different males feeding them! Have you ever come across this phenomenon? Commenst KAZ? Nadine? Finnie? Here is a photo. They have 3 gorgeous chicks ! I fostered last "Runt" to another hen as they trampled one tiny one to death.But they are doing splendid. Females fight madly over males! and boxes! How did this happen? Here they are on eggs, i will take photos tomorrow and download of their 3 chicks in box.(Hopefully both will be there inside with chicks)

is it feather mites?scaly mites? treat with drop treatment for mites.?????????We need a little more info to help

Oh my word!!!! This happened to my Male Budgie Posted here on the Left as my Profile pick- At the time the Lovebirds were still with the Budgies and I didnt know that they get aggressive when they start breeding. Now they are seperated by panels in the Avery. I used a bandage that contains plaster of Paris. We washed and disinfected the wound with tepid/lukewarm water and applied betadine before closing with Gypsum.My Mom helped me to splint the leg with a matchstick-she held the bird -close birds eye with a cloth so he remains calm in darkness, then we wrapped the gauzelike bandage around after dipping it in water. It sets in seconds. I left it on for 14 days according to a racing pigeon friend. cut it off after 10 days with a small scissor after wetting it and Voila!!!! He has fathered many beautiful clutches!!!Leg as normal as any other bird- no limping. Apparently the tissue surrounding the wound stretches out and surrounds the break and heals as sinew and tissue around the wound-thats how it heals apparently or sets??!! according to the Pigeon man. Hope this was helpful. To avoid infection should she not put him on an anti=biotic and probiotic Finnie? I was told to mix the probiotic with wet food but I just sprinkle it lightly like salt over their seeds , then i know for sure they are injesting it.Saved a few birds with Crop canker like that but used Also Ronidazole for Crop canker-thanks to Nadine recently saved a beautiful young cock. Hope this was helpful- and a seperate cage is a must!!! I have Hospital cage- baby cage-spares for sick birds for isolation /quarantine. Let us know Aquafroste-this gypsum bandage that contains Plaster of Paris is found at Chemists in the Bandages and so forth section- ask your big pharmacies. We have non-existant Avian Vets here in Cape Town-they actually killed 3 of my birds. I've saved many budgies and finches just from advise applied from this forum and people that know birds. Good luck!

I recently did this with an infertile hen- 3x her eggs never hatched., Her fourth time round in Aviary she actually hatched one of her 6 eggs only- I fostered a baby with her as the twins sharing a box hatched 5 and trampled 1- so i thought of saving the little runt and placed it succesfully with her. He/she has down and pin feathers now and her other chick has proper feathers and little down left. Hope this was helpful. Is it not from them shoving the baby with their beak underneath them to keep them warm? The other hen had no eggs hatching and she had a succesful 5xchick clutch last year but this time only 1 egg also hatched of 10-there were some disturbances, Lovebird got through from other side and chased her out of nest and sat on eggs! it was so precious to see. No bird was hurt, no eggs were hurt but all the commotion made her lay more eggs and from 5 it grew to ten and i don't think she could incubate all these eggs. So i gave her one foster chick to balance them out- so she has two, another hen 2, the twins have 3, and My Greywing/cross Albino has 4 chicks. All thriving More and pics coming up on the Twins issue - a rarety ? unusual? or normal? on new thread

://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/Maz758/Calypsotryingtodoaloopthroughfoodbowlperch_zps5cb3d628.jpg[/img][/url] http://s1299.photobu...r/Maz758/media/_zps5cb3d628.jpg.html] Finnie I actually managed to get the photobucket app to load pictures of the little sick Lutino with the de-husked whole seeds in her droppings. Hi Nadine Check her out. What do you think is the problem, too young? Digestive Enzymes not working? When I picked her up she was a bony little fairy - breastbone was pronounced. I managed to give her Groats and she de-hulled them her self! She also eats the Japanese Millet which is apparently rich in Protein but I am very concerned about those pips in the poop:< Appatetite has improved in past 2 days but she's been on Baytril and Probiotic, variety of seeds in her bowl- I give them yellow+redmillet, red+yellow Manna,Groats,Saffron,Jap Millet and Canola seeds. Always Vitamin supplements in water, and sometimes wheat germ oil on their seeds, also cod-liver oil. None of those for her now though b4 I don't know for defo what's wrong with her.

Melandco and everybody on this site....I just came accross this 2005 poem from Chirpy, agh man its so good and a real tearjerker! Also I agree with you Melandco, my animals go with or I stay! - my 2dogs,my 2 cats,2 Tortoises,and 65 birds!

Yep! Trial+error!

Hi Finnie, thanks4 your reply. She actually dehusks the seeds and eats continuously through day now but her poop contains the dehusked seeds. I tried feeding her with a bent spoon, Parakeet breeders mix no luck! She screeches+flaps+gets stressed. I left eggfood mix in a bowl-no luck. Since I've sprinkled pro-biotic on her seeds her appetite has improved.I used a dropper as well to get some Baytril+water in her beak- she performs+sneezes. Very Lutino! Attitude! She is very active up+down,swings,loops -her tail feathers are tatty. I'm not sure what you mean with other feathers. Its such a mission to get a photo onto this site. Must it go via photobucket2upload a photo I find it a long process!