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wow sounds great wish i lived their :fear

well when i started breeding show birds i wanted to breed for cinnamon lacewings and albino so i wouldn't have much wastage of birds i breed and could work these together so off i went and grabbed hold of some birds here is what i have today as far as birds i can fit into a line of lacewings in my opinion but then i really have no clue so i have asked our nubbly 5 to please give me a good heads up on my birds and the good and bad points of each bird its time for me to become a bit more cautious as to how i do things and as i still want to do my albinos im going to concentrate on both these variety every year if thats possible i dont know just a thought i had so here is my idea in brief well this year i breed a bit of both albinos at start of year and lacewings lacewings as we speak i tryed albinos but just one pair with a older / albino cock i got no albinos so next years breading i may try concentrate on my lacewings first and albinos last :fear but what i really need help with it my birds and choosing what i put into the lineand why so ive asked nubbly 5 to be my on line lacewing mentor thanks for helping me nubbs hug: so im going to be placing some pics up and i have asking nubbly 5 to criticize and praise each bird as SHE sees it SO DONT THINK SHES BEING TO JUDGMENTAL I WANT HER TOTAL HONESTY others are more than welcome to put input in im hoping this being open can help others so feel free to ask questions to nubbly if you want it will all help maybe you will ask something i over looked to ask so here bird one and a bit of history and my opinion on her BIRD ONE this hen i breed myself from my opaline light green /lacewing cock gg-breed x a white lacewing hen ,bridie breed ive since given the hen away due to i didnt see her as being the back bone to what i want to achieve however she was very nice bird the chick : opaline light green hen out feb 2010 good points : her all over size is good her stance is nice but she seems to have major dip in back ,im not sure if you can get something like that out of a line so this would be why i would not keep this hen and the only reason her mask is not long but shes yet two molt for second time so this could change and she may drop her spots down he has all the direction needed to provide a useful hen if her back line is not a major issue what do others see and please i will not be a fended im trying to asses my birds for all their aspects if ive missed something i want to know as im only learning and wont learn if im not told even if im being to critical myself i need to know this cheers

lol shes peved you took her babys away when you open door to feed and she goes you try sticking hand in it to make her leave box then slide in a peace of wood in box on inside so you can look at babys propply daily splat with out her getting back in i had a hen bit same and i have a cock who jumps at me when i come close or open nest thats what i do it works

okay cool will do get some pics for you

thanks dean second one is my fav so far she always has her feather abouve head held high just what i like to see

cool will do hay on a personal note did you get my e mail lastnight ???

that cage is plenty big for one love bird even two i wouldnt hold more than two budgies in that though either

thank you darl very much i think with my flight and less birds than you it would be less for overall costs and with my memorry loss very worth my while so will be finding out more about it around here

update pics from yesterday first chick second chick third chick fourth chick with foster mum n dad fifth chick 6ixth chick lacewings altogether all looking good

yes hun yf sky violet/ino/cin/opaline borg n skiv breed cock violet grey gren yf mutant 1 opaline cock 08 bird x albino tf1 08 hen normal sky cinnamon hen dad mum the albino hen to front left

thanks hun their moulting right now so will take pics once finished mabe also durring if people want

sorry shannon what bird you refering to if its the dom and violet babys mother was mp1 -088 for lealotta

thank you mate yes it was the water thing i was interested in

can i be a pain and ask for update on water usage and med aplication any problems you may of found hun :question:

wow splat i may have to imploy you to help me :question:

I can see an iris ring. forgive my ignorance but what does that mean? :question: its okay hun do your pied babys have rings in their eyes like your other birds or are their eyes compleatly black

where do you get something like that nubb i was looking into it but didnt get far :question:

they look like two normal but young rec pied to me

for me macka hard i dont really like alot of people and besides i got lost at what lot we were at and i missed out on some good birds as i just cant write and listen im dyslexic after all i asked someone else could i get a copy of theirs so i dont need to worry do i :rofl: i get it next meeting i had to help clean up and lol i stood in line talking to everyone who got birds so i was so nervous last year i almost brought a violet by scratching my nose it was 300 lucky someone wanted it more they had to pay ten buck more cause i scratched my nose you really have to watch where your hands go

:rofl: im no im lucky i even have birds remember the time splat i left my cage open i came out after feeding them and forgot to shut cage next morning their was a beautiful grey cock bird on out side stupid me being a bit unwell with my illness at time just sat their talking to it saying what a beautiful boy he was when i finally decided id catch him so he would not die in the big old world he flew off it was then that i relized he was my best cock bird at the time my splat violet grey boy my god did i kick myself for months stilkl do if i could reach myown butt id have kicked myself so so hard :hap: so ..i was just luck i only lost the one i could have lost my whole flock by time i relized the door was actually open it was lunch time my birds just must know their on a good wicket i think

yep beak is perfect she looks really healthy in fact

ha ha this thread should be called the guilty confessions of a breeder

Thanks nubbly. I will try to get this book, it sounds very interesting. Another question you might be able to answer. I read somewhere (i think it was on the World Budgerigar Organisation website) that only Yellowfaces Mutation 1 Single Factor Yellofaces Mutation 2 Double Factor Goldenfaces Double Factor should be entered in the YF Class at a show as too much yellow suffusion will be penalized. Is this true or does it depend on the overall quality of the bird? Also would all these mutations have to be entered in YF class at a show?: YF Opaline YF Opaline AOSV YF Albino (Creamino) YF Spangle (Single&Double Factor) YF Greywing YF Texas Clearbody YF Dilute Thanks for your help. i can lend you this book lealotta its sitting here doing nothing collecting dust right now if you like it you can then get yourself one

welcome

well lets just say any violet that goes at auction in my opinion is way to much for bird not worth anything but the modifing colour inhancer so but way to much splat you should be doing this :what: and to who ever that tells you different do this Flanagan birds as per norm quality birds at prices they deserved as i said i didnt record prices i didnt get anything out bided on every bird i wanted _) but turned out to be in my favor if i think about it i dont hate auctions i just hate how nervous i get as i know i truley dont have chance at what i need about now but i have some nice birds from good blood so will keep playing till i see something more