*libby*

Well as many of you have seen on here i have my tame boy Honey... Honey is now 2 years old and there is STILL no sign of iris rings? all my other ino's have iris rings? Has anyone ever heard of this happening before? or why it happens? His parents were an Albino hen and a Lutino cock Photo of Honey as he looks today:

Gorgeous chicks! I have a few hens who pluck down... makes the chicks look funny as Gonna foster the egg?

I agree, great educational experiment. Look forward to seeing the results and figners crossed all goes well.

First sign, is youngsters with fully barred heads (Bars all the way to their cere)

Haha nope, no waxing... just showing her "full moon" so to speak

Thanks :rofl: Nopes not brocolli in there??? No, Charlie lives in the aviary now, along with two other tame weero's (bubbles and casper) and a semi-tame one named Silverado... Peggy the Barraband is also in there, she's semi-tame... or rather i should say has just lost all fear of people

Chick 1 - hen seems to be Chick 2 - seems to be a cock? not positive though, need a clearer picture Chick 3 - Looks hen?? Chick 4 - cock Chick 5 - cock Chick 6 - hen Chick 7 - cock Chick 8 - cock Chick 9 - cock Chick 10 - Hen

Some updated photo's of some of my flock when they got some corn today. - Charlie bird eating some corn - one of Kaz' beautiful lacewing cocks! - Andre the giant being a fatty - Andre the giant being a fatty again! - Ladder of corn - Ladder again - One of the cutey babies having a bath on the leaves - Cheeky Kiwi mooning us! - Group photo - Enjoying the corn - Another one of the fatties! - My favourite male, love his colours! - Peggy having a bath and looking sparkly! - One of the babies looking sparkley! - my favourite boy again - Corn stackers! - Last final group picture

Beautiful birds there and you did the pictures great well done!

Definatly two ways to see it... I look upon it as: if you're helping them to have a life then it's a good thing. Once all quality of life is gone, fair enough, but these look like happy healthy birds. Although they're not going to have a normal life span or feather growth I beleive with Liv's care of their feathers and a healthy diet they'll live a life worth living like any other bird. They're not in pain, just uncomfortable. When nature beleives it's time, that's when i beleive it's time. Having said that I am anti-euthinasia... so very bias :thumbs_up: Keep up the wonderful work Liv, I'd be doing exactly the same thing.

Welcome, i agree... awesome set up! Your grey cock is gorgeous! i love him!

This topic has gone way off course. The reason for this forum being here is for us all to share a common interest in our passion. Budgies. Whilst sharing this passion one of the main aims is to gain and share our wealth of knowledge we have amongst us. There is no criticism here, only the passing on of knowledge and what is world wide seen as the correct practices with budgies and their breeding. Whilst we understand not everyone is able to supply the correct equipment/veterinary care and food etc to their birds we are here to support them in trying to supply what is within their reaches and curve their practices to those which are deemed best for their birds. We can't however force the practices upon them, but we can try to educate them to the best of our abilities. To those who believe that this is some kind of witch hunt against Marlon, you're completely incorrect. Each and ever member on this forum has the birds best interests at heart and those of you who believe otherwise are missing the point completely of being a member on this forum. We're here to aid those who have been wrongly informed and expand their knowledge. Yes, this may be seen as "criticism" but you need to remember that their is a very big difference between "criticism" and "CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM"

Did i mention i hate you Kaz??? They're all beautiful! I'm very jealous! lol xxx

Thanks although i think the competition should run a while longer They were just some of the hand reared pets last summer, although i think i need bigger hands! haha

Howdy and welcome Also can't wait for photo's!

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I hope he makes it also, he's a cutie... I can't see it being a feather duster by the look of his primary flights so far and how nice and neat they sit etc... the rest of his feathers look almost FD like, but I'd guess he's just fluffing up as a result of his attack?? I look forward to seeing him as he gets better. Remember to let the wound dry out and scab up, if you keep applying stuff it'll stay moist and take 10x the time to heal... salt water rinses will help it heal faster and aid in drying it up to create a scab.

The general amont of time is 21 days if no signs of breeding then the pair are removed, but if i see signs in a pair i really want to go down i'll leave up to 28 or so

So very sorry babe :thankyou: he was beautiful! Big hugs xxx

i agree, wonderful set up if in future you're able to move the breeding cages out of the aviary it will make it even better, but so far it's excellent! I really love the extra flight Your birds are very spoilt! :thankyou: Good job to you and hubby on excellent work!

Yellow belly matt :thankyou: Once the chicks have died it's normal for them to look "bruised" if they look bruised before they're dead then it's odd and due to something else??... but the yellow belly is a sign of hatching before their "due date" so to speak as the yolk has not been fully absorbed and they're at high risk of infection and death... they barely ever make it unless the yolk is only just visible under the skin, but if it's on the outside... then they're pretty much set to die.

Easiest thing to do is make some :thankyou:

haha i know how you feel if i knew what i'm meant to look for i'd help but i'm still learning also

Looks like you did very well for yourself! Love the last 3 birds!

Gorgerous photo's! Must be a very good camera! or an excellent operator! i can only dream of getting such great pics! well done! BOM???