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Nerwen We are all here to help one another and I guess this is one... More info on pBFD...... Chereeoke this fits him to a tea his beak, blood within the shaft ( hence why i thought his wing was hacked ) Young birds are affected by an acute form of PBFD, which occurs during their first feather formation, after replacement of down feathers. The developing feathers often fracture, bleed or fall out. Young birds may die following a short period of anorexia (loss of appetite), depression and diarrhea, with very little feather abnormality. Older birds are thought to develop a chronic form in which dystrophic feathers stop growing shortly after emerging from the follicles. The feathers become increasingly abnormal with each successive molt. Contour feathers are usually affected early, while primary feathers are affected later in the disease. Contour feathers often are lost over most of the body. New feathers may have retained feather sheaths, blood within the shafts, are curled and deformed, or are short and clubbed. The beak may also be involved in the disease process. It may change from a dull black to a glossy appearance. It may grow abnormally long and develop splits and cracks which break and peel. Bacteria and fungi often invade the abnormal beak, causing further destruction and necrosis (death) of the tissues. The abnormal beaks often make it difficult for the bird to eat as it may be very painful.... and Shyannes beak was just breaking away when the vet cut it.....

Sorry....Was in a state last night... She looked at him and said it could be french molt... then after plucking feathers she said it is Beak and Feather.... When i got home i was reading up on both French molt and pbfd and I was have been so BLAH from it all but it is pbfd.......

Thanks Elly & Kaz... I found a site that was listed under french molt..... I can't believe that a breeder had these in a cage with all his other birds, from what I understand that it can be spread thru feather dust * Flapping their wings. I think that They will be kept isolcated completly from the others, But I don't want to risk the chance of the not washing the hand the once , I will have to keep detol soap next to their cage this will remind me, I was always a sucker for the "odd one" I will just make the rest of their stay more enjoyable and as good as it can get..... well at least we know now what to look for - cause over grown beaks can be a sign too but the "Hacked / backyard job" flight feathers is french molt.... so we can help others, and they will know what to look for..

Hey all, Just updating you all on the trip from the vets.... She was lovely..... But Chereeoke does have the onsets of PBFD I don't have the $$$ for confirmed diagnoise But she is 99% sure and has seen this case often to tell the signs. She showed me with his tail feather to where ( i thought his wing was hacked ) and there is no folicol this is why he runs and not flies. Only a couple of tail feathers and 1 wing feather no primaries, his wings are trying to grow but pinched off growth point and Adv not to breed him ( He found the nest box today ) Shayanne - Her overgrown beak... WELL that wasn't all.... NOT SCAELY FACE *few how everher Lower beak is as deformity congenital which is allowing the upper beak to over grow........... THIS SUCKS i know I have had them for a few days but i am still crying over this, Hubby says they're just birds, But Hey..... SO because the two of them were/ are sharing a cage she is bound it get it... I have to clean out the Breeding cage they were in and THis is just bloody great....... But I just wanted to let you all know what the go is ... and THANKYOU, if it wasn't for this Forum I wouldn't have known to Quarrentine new birds and the rest of my flock would have it too.. So thanks guys, I don't know what to do with them now I can't have them with / near my others Please any ideas, I am not one to make them dog food cause they are sick, but I might read up more on this...... THanks agin

YEP .... Back from the Vets, He has PBFD He can't be breed ... I am shocked Details well be posted in new topic.... Just when I thought I was gonna get babies eh...... Guess it's just not my time

Thanks Nerwen. My camera doesn't do well with close ups I have posted her picture before... But I came back for the vets tonight and I can't breed her so it's all good She is like at coffee with Milk ( maybe sugar (Laughing out loud) )color and a little crust on the edges... Not scaely face vet confirmed it wasn't....

WELCOME Sock.... This forum is great full of alot of advice... About the Trill... I mix in a pkt with the seeds I get ( I make my own miexs up now) I like the fact that it has the vegies in it too, I am not to sure what others think but my birds are still alive ( 2 ys) I would worm him just to be sure. it is usually every 3 -4 months ( so my bottles says) But I re do all new birds again.... But in Branches not standard dow stick this helps their feet from setting sores and etc, Maybe a cuttlebone or mineral block ( Mine are in the shape of grapes)..... I'm sure you get more info and advice when the other member read your post.... I wish you "Ollie" and your family happy times ahead....

Hey all... I am totally stoked!!!!! If you could see me i'm jumping about like little hot CHilli's... My Chereeoke Found the nest box hehehehehe he is calling to Shyanne but she ain't budging.... They are the 2 that are going to the vets for their check up this arvo.... I spoke to the Vet about disturbing them ( Have to change Cage ) she said it should be fine.... It wanna be ... I have wated for this moment from any of my birds and finally some action ..(Laughing out loud)

Hey guys I have tried searching to find out How Long Are Budgies In Breeding Condition For? Just seems like one of mine have either been going or coming for about 3 months so far... It's not scaley Face ..... *Yuk...... Thought some of the breeders would know, or anyone else...I would love to know Thanks

LMAO there ain't no flower on it ...I better get the user manual out She's going into breeding condition. she is brown and crusty looking.... I just can't take a good picture

Congrats on the aviary !!! It feels great I bet... I know it did for me when I got mine.... All the best with it all... I love it * I need to up grade (Laughing out loud)

Hey Kaz... Iam going with Grey wing too I am only learning with the dilutes, clear / grey wing but I have a dilut ( Margoo) she is really pretty poofy but pretty http://www.budgieplace.com/colors.html click the Click Here to see photos of mutation combinations there is a greywing in there if you want to compare ( nothing like your how ever grey) ....If i was in Perth you could use Elvis.. Best of luck in the show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Feathers..... They all look fantastic.... You are sooooo going to have beautiful baby budgies.... I bet there will be a few sea green colors *Just what I want ... Your idea for the breeding room is kind what I have in my head... I have those big cages but I couldn't for the life of me work out how to put the nestbox on.. what have you used as I had to create a make do internal on hooked to the wall and supported by 3 dows.. ( Trust me bodgy )...So are you gonna part with your seceret?????????? * Begs... ANyways Best of Luck to you & your flock can't wait for pics!!!!!

Thanks Paul.... I know of the hulled oats but i couldn't remember ( pretty sure i was told before) I thought as a treat they get their seeds veggies and greens and the seeds that I'm growing.... I guess a pintch every month or so would be nice for them... I have "Home Brand" in the cupboard...

I'M Green...

Hey all can you give budgies rolled oats????

Eucalyptus Leaves is great for gastro....

Yikes... Hope it stays away... If now maybe a small scarecrow thing or staute of a cat ontop of the aviary maight help??? *Picturing the dance (Laughing out loud)

Yeah all the time Dave gets cranky cause I watch them and don't listen to him talk hahahah I am truly Hooked... Just got to think of a name for it now

Hey all as promised :angel1: Updates They love their Greens (Laughing out loud) they are fighting of leaves which get changed every 3rd day.. http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t200/Ne...photo/Av1-1.jpg Crew just chilling The Crew Close up.... we have Prince & Ozzie From Left to right are Angle SnowWhite2 Elvis is the Big Cinamon in the background and Starchky and MArgoo are at the front They Love their new home... So much room they have now started to investigate the floor on the aviary... Maybe cause I used the Vac this time... I have a stocking on the end When we were little mum sucked up bluey ..... Also I had a BIG problem.. Angle ( The smallest ) got stuck behind the mesh, she was upside down I am guessing all night ( they get checked on at 10.30pm when i go to bed and again at 6.30am when i wake) she found the littlest gap. so I have plugged ALL gaps up... I am loving it so much better then them in their little cages, They sing all the time and are getting used to me coming in there now Thanks all THIS SITE ROCKS

Well..NOT HAPPY JAN My appointment had to be postponed... THere was an emergancy???? Which is understandable... They had a quick sticky beak and nothing looks to bad will know tomorrow at 615PM...... Chereeoke's Tail is more than likely from the perch being to close to the cage..*Thanks Nerwen you maybe be on the money ( No doubt ) They are going to tim her beak and just give them a once over for me..... $10 to trim a beak is worth it i'd hate to cut it too short and cause bleeding especially when there is no cornstarch in the house * shoppinglist... ANyways guys thanks for the wishes and here are more pics... You can see the length on it pretty good in this picture.. Need to update camera i think Chereeoke's Hacked wing you can see the flight feather starting to grow Poor baby.. Thanks for all your wishes guys I will keep you all posted..... I know I am not holding her correctly in here but she wriggles so much and ithe biting was starting to hurt More of SHayanne's beak And Chereeoke is blue Elly

SHe has the red eyes and he does have the iris... Heheh I forgot about that one.. All the other breeds are easy to work out lmao... okay 1/2 hour till vets open yeah..... My hubby calls them retards. he has no heart They will ended up being supermodel budgies when I am done. I am feeding them all their greens.. and oranges and yellows ( vegie ) and well hopefully vet goes well I am sure that she just needs a trim and I ain't doing that I can clip nails but not touching a beak.... Will keep you all up to date... Thanks guys....28 mins to go (Laughing out loud)

I am sure that retiring a Breeding Hen is aroung the age of 4 - 5 years old..... But a breeder will confirm this for us.... Good luck with everything flower I hope it all runs smooth for you....

Let Nature take it course, All should be well... Good luck

I know how you feel Dave. I just want babies too..... But I am learning to be patient VERY patient (Laughing out loud)... Good Luck with everything,