**KAZ**

also spray all cages and cage equipment, all perches, toys and drinkers and food containers ( remove and replace all food and water after )..............red mites hide in the tiniest of spaces like slots in perches and in the joins of cage bars......the eggs look like specks of pepper.

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Member is USA based

you can post larger photos .......at 480 by 640 if you wish

Top photo is a cock.........if you have had it since 2009 and the cere has not gone brownish by 6 months its a cock. grey dom pied is also a cock and not in breeding condition.

I have no knowledge of the other product you are talking about so I cannot advise you

I use avian insecticidal liquidator for birds and cages. Others use Coopex.

Well the mites are fairly small some a grey and others are red Well then you have a red mite infestation as I suspected. they are very virulent. They hide in tiny cracks in the cage....in the joins of the bars, in the slots of the perches, behind drinkers and any crack or crevice. They suck the budgies blood and they hide in the ear canals of the birds too. You really need to get this sorted bigtime. And the most thorough clean of all cages you have ever done in your life with the right product. If you are breeding stop and get this sorted out.

We have had past members who risked budgies and lovebirds and after they posted graphic pictures of a slaughtered budgie with its head ripped off by the lovebird. So... I wouldnt .

SO TRUE two budgies and you may as well give up now ....

Some piks were done by a club member and I guess will be in the next club magazine

Not all budgies talk anyway.......no matter if they are boys or girls. I hope Dusty does

Is it possible you have a red mite infection ? PS good tip too from Taz Devil

Its an indicator of heavily melanin and is usually only whilst in the nest. Once they fledge the nest it begins to fade away...may only last a week or two.

Most of the suspect bird toys are made in China where standards for pet toys are either non existent or very lax. Even these bells can come out of bird toys and stick onto a birds beak either damaging the beak or making it impossible to eat if not noticed immediately.

There is a budgerigar club in Melton http://www.bcv.asn.au/Melton.htm and note...the secretary Peter Thurn is a member of this forum............known as Chookbreeder

WRONG assumption girl budgies do talk...maybe not as eassily or as readily but they do talk. Female budgies DO talk. The simple fact of the matter is so many people keep saying only boys talk that noone bothers trying to teach females to talk. People who are so convinced a female cannot talk, will never talk etc are the very ones who wont ever try. Quote from a budgie owner................ When I was 11 years old, my mother brought home a beautiful white parakeet. She started talking after about six months,and she was definitely a female. She talked better than any bird I've known, including my African Gray. She picked up phrases, like "Quick,shut the door",and "Uh-oh, Frosty's out!" She enjoyed dive bombing into our cold cereal, and would only bathe in a champagne glass! She was quite a personality and talker. She had a very extensive vocabulary, and lived a long life. --------------------------------------… Quote from another budgie owner My talker isn't my extremely smart male budgie Skyler but the handraised female Holly. When I started hearing words and phrases taken from the recording in the motion detector mirror toy( "where are you Babies" "good budgies", I love you")I presumed it was Skyler although he never spoke anything but budgie, chicken or tiel before. It was hard to make out and most words were surrounded by alien invader noise, "static" and tons of strange sounds. I finally realized the talker was Holly. I guess Skyler lets his "cell phone" speak for him. --------------------------------------… You tube.........talking female http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJQjZxvuBjk --------------------------------------… Quote............ Contrary to popular belief the female budgie will talk with equal enthusiam as a male budgie. I have handfed many budgies and have had many reports back from customers that their bird is talking whether it is male or female. "Hemsky", owned by Shea Long (one of our future veternarians), is a budgie I raised in the past year and Shea just emailed me to tell me Hemsky's vocabulary now consists of: "Pretty, Birdie, Budgie and Hi Cutie". Shea also adds that Hemsky is "a very smart little girl", always entertaining. Hemsky is only five and half months old. --------------------------------------… Quote.... i had a wonderful talking female called sparky who shared the room with a norwich canary --------------------------------------… ANOTHER TALKING FEMALE BUDGIE..... http://talkingbudgie.homestead.com/thesensitive.html --------------------------------------… As long as people continue to say females wont talk, then noone tries to teach them Its just another one of those OLD WIVES TALES.............saying that they dont when they do.

Great auction............definite bargains to be had. Highest priced budgie, a Cec Gearing grey cock sold for $2,400 to an eastern states buyer who attended in person

Dusty is a girl budgie

No, but in other posts he has mentioned he has scatt which is ivermectin.

He already has ivermectin

I will look out for you

reminder.........auction on this saturday

You'd have to be real happy with him. He's quite a handsome dude

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