Sailorwolf

I got some great flying pictures Kito Alo Izzy, Robbie and Alo Izzy and Bacardi Nikio Alo takes a swoop Bacardi looks like a rainbow of colours Ninja Izzy drops from the ceiling!!! Bacardi Emmett Bacardi Enjoy.

Again I was able to get my friend to bring around their camera and i got millions of shots.: The budgies eat from my hand. Look at Bacardi's back it is beautiful Alo just landing Aaaargh big giant scary hand! Run away!!!! Robbie about to jump off the top of the cage Nikio and Albert, with Alo's back Alo's back again Kito Nikio Robbie and Isis are in step. Dance! Bacardi my voilet opaline yelowface type 2 spangle Hope you enjoyed, I got lots of flying pictures, but I will put them in another topic

I have been toiling over this for days now, this whole thing is stressing me out quite a bit. I really trust my vet, he knows what he is doing and the vet hospital that they go to is the best in the country, police dogs are flown in on helicopter to get treated here. We have 3 avian vets here on site. Research is constantly being conducted everyday. I even bumped into my vet in the post mortem room, while he was doing a necropsy on a Kiwi. We get wildlife through our vet hospital all the time. I am finding this quite hard at the moment. Pulling her may also add undue stress. I am constantly thinking every few minutes " Am I doing the right thing? Should i pull her? No cause then she will be a chronic egg layer. Maybe I should addle the eggs? maybe, but she will just do it again. But that will stop her for now, but what if raising babies would actually be good for her. Am I being selfish? I don't know maybe I am, but she looks healthy and she is determined to do it, but then again do I just want babies. But is having babies what she needs to do right now. She's too old to breed, but the vet said that she is healthy and not that bad, but should I stop it, or will she go into depression? I should addle the eggs, but i don't like the idea of killing a baby, but I should, because a dead baby and a healthy mum is better." As you can see, I am freaking out a bit.

I talked to my vet this afternoon and he was quite pleased to hear that Saffy had passed the eggs easily and naturally. I asked about a hysterectomy and he said that even though one can be done it isn't unknown for the reproductive tract to grow back. Thus I would still have issues. He said that actually laying the eggs is what is the hard thing is rearing chicks is not that labour intensive. I told him what you guys have said and he said that she is a very healthy bird (contrary to what has happened recently) and even though she is 6, which may seem elderly, in the wild budgies commonly live to 15 years of age. He also agreed with me on the concept that providing her a comfortable place to lay eggs can help prevent eggbinding and not remove the eggs as this can cause birds to become chronic egg layers. When i told him that she has already had babies before and that stopped her for a good 6 months, he said that she is obviously a healthy breeder anyway. I had quite a lengthy discussion with him. And he really knows his stuff. He keeps his own birds too. If Saffy went downhill she would go straight to the vet, but I must say she is looking very perky lately and is quite enjoying motherhood.

The vet told me that it would be a good idea to put Emmett in with Saffy. I questioned this at the time and she said it may prompt her into breeding, but the company would help her even more. It's not like I wanted her to lay eggs. But I am providing a comfortable spot for her to do so, so that she doesn't get egg bound again. She seems to be coping quite well at the moment. I will be getting lots of vitamin D into her via spinach and will go looking for some calcium supplements. She has been chewing on her calcium block which is good. I am assuming that a hysterectomy was not performed perhaps due to her high hormone levels at the time. I think I will text the vet and see what he thinks. (yes she has two vets now, if you were confused by me interchanging he and she). To be honest, I am not encouraging her to breed, she became eggbound in the big cage where there is no where for her to lay. She is not yet 6 years old, but she is approaching it. I know the risks with age as I went through this last year, when she decided to have babies at the age of 5 again without my say in the matter.

haha the last picture looks like he is godzilla about to destroy your city

Well she has gone and laid her second egg with out any difficulties

Your Kito is almost like my Kito, except my Kito is a spangle too, otherwise completely identical.

I love the last picture. I like how it is all black on some random parts of his wing gorgeous, such a lovely contrast, between the black and white.

I love the blue on Sunny, it is so vibrant

Awe poor Lea, was the naughty boy mean to you?

No I have no other hens on eggs. Sigh. It could be fertilised as her and Emmett are pretty close and I have seen them mating. Sigh, the mother is almost 6 and the father is underage. (Laughing out loud) Well he is either 8 or 10 months old. Naughty little thing Saffy is.

*Cries*, but i duon't know whether or not to let her have he babies, it may take her mind off of egg laying

I'm like that too Bea. I don't want to change it because it is so much hard work getting it all cool. But I love doing it though. I love buying treats and toys and cool stuff for my pets. It is so much fun

What a sweetums, look at his pooffed up head, cute!

Haha, always afraid of addling eggs incase a deformed baby comes from it, but like I said I think they have already done a really good job addling it

Well Nikio is a visual violet, a cobalt violet. he he. So she is violet all over, but the most vibrant is on her head and wings.

I'll explain: She initially laid the egg on the floor of the cage. So I am really unsure of what to do, I don't want to take the egg away, because she will lay more. But I'm not sure whether I should let her raise a family, because that stopped her for a good 6 months last time. So I thought I would give her a little concave and cover it over, but still, make it so I can see her, just while I get my thoughts sorted. She is currently incubating it at the moment. I am still trying to decide on what to do and am planning on going to talk to my vet about it. I think she initially got eggbound because she had no where comfortable to lay in the first place, In the big cage, there is absolutely nowhere. So I thought at least now she has somewhere comfortable to lay her eggs.

Sigh, I was hoping to get her spayed, now I just don't know what to do with the egg, she is incubating it and being a very good mum. Moral dilemas.

That I am absolutely thankful for. She just let out a squeak and laid it, with me in the room.

Silly little girl, after all the fuss and trauma we went through two weeks ago, you'd think Saffy would have given up, but no, Saffy has laid an egg. The thing I am most happy about is she passed it really easily. :hap: She laid it on the ground then tried to incubate it. I don't want to remove it cause that would mean even MORE eggs , so I made he a little bit more comfortable and put a concave on the bottom of the cage and put a shelter over it. I dunno what to do with this girl. Sigh Emmett is being a complete idiot, he's going inside the box and rolling the egg around, wondering what it is, either that or he feels very proud. I think they have probably done a very good job of addling it.

Meat chickens and chickens living in barns and cages get that

Nikio is such a silly billy. I reckon she is a tom boy budgie. She loves to poof up her head and sometimes bobs it to me, she is so cute.

I managed to get some pictures of my budgies, a friend came round with a camera. These picture show everyone's colours well except Nikio's because she is a violet. Izzy Izzy, Itha Albert, (isis behind Nikio) Nikio, Arkady, Bacardi and Robbie's bum Arkady, Itha, Alo, Nikio, Izzy and Kito Nikio and Albert flying. This picture came out blurry, but I kinda like how it is all imposed. This is a picture of Nikio, cause you guys haven't really seen a proper picture of her. Arkady, her dad is behind her, with Bacardi (who is another violet) is behind them Millet time!!! The group, with roly poly, their little polar bear toy they love to wrestle. This is Emmett. I finally have apicture of him, so you can all meet him. He is the most gorgeous green I have ever seen. Close up of Arkady and Nikio

Unfortunately because I am vet student, I get my consultations free and my xrays and meds and blood works done a lot cheaper. The vets couldnot diagnose Saffy's problem, but like I said doing physiotherapy on her leg has really worked a treat. Try taking your budgie's leg and extending and flexing it gently and then move it in all natural positions and ways as if she was walking. Flex and extend her toes. This works by increasing blood flow to the area and helps to heal any nerve or muscle damage. Do it for about 5 minutes every day and you might start noticing differences in a week (I know I did). Regarding pain in budgies: Because budgies are a prey animal, they do not tend to show pain as this would make them more susceptible to attack. Budgies therefore do not show many reactions in pain. Saffy didn't really do much she just bit extra hard, while I have her her injections. Most signs in pain are fluffing up, looking sleepy, sleeping more and tail bobbing. They don't tend to react as much as say a dog would.