Sailorwolf

This year I was really keen on keeping the rosella if he survived (he didn't) and breeding budgies again. But my flatmate who is also a vet student, 2 years above me in her final year talked me out of it. In final year for us we have to go work in different vet clinics around the country and are busy most of the time. Thus for a lot of the year we aren't actually at home and we have to find someone to look after our pets while we are away. She has 2 dogs that she absolutely loves, but she was upset at the fact that she didn't have time to spend with them this year. Most of the time she couldn't take her dogs with her, or if she was lucky she could take one, but she always had to find someone to look after the other. Now I was really wanting to get more budgies that year, but she said that once I reach 5th year I probably won't have enough time to play with them and then I would have to find someone to look after them while I'm away, which will be often. So I decided not to get any in the end and for me I think that is the best decision. I don't know what your uni is like for the last year. But I thought that that would be something worth thinking about.

Shelfie is so gorgeously bright. Gorgeous pictures!

Just going through these posts I have realised what a great community we are. And this community will sorely miss you if you go, so don't! You're not allowed because we said so! Hehe. Seriously we are a broad bunch of people with differing backgrounds, some are in similar situations to you and I think pretty much all of us think we sound like an idiot half the time. I know I've put my foot in it heaps.

Ooo thanks Kaz, that sounds awesome

Don't go. From what I have read of your posts I have understood everything perfectly clearly. And now that you have told us this it makes us understand even more. None of us mind if you need to ask questions. Fire away. No question is silly. You obviously enjoy it here and we want you to keep having fun, so don't leave. Hugs any way :hap:

She is also an opaline as you can see her clear V marking

I can't see the picture

Denise I feel so sorry for your son. Yes make sure he knows that it was an accident. When i did my first crop tubing, I was petrified of hurting the bird and having not done it before you just don't know. Tell him he is a good man for trying to help anyway and for the care he is showing.

Cinnamon does show up on spangles as cinnamon affects the colour of the wing, whereas spangle affects the pattern. I have 2 cinnamon spangles

Yea I find it interesting. I mean I have 2 birds that look exactly the same, yet one has blue feet and the other has grey feet. okay so here are my pics: Pink feet Grey Feet Blue feet Contrast between pink and blue feet okay so now my mutations that belong to each foot colour and breeding history. Saffy has pink feet and is a DF spangle YF2 hen She bred with Izzy: Izzy has grey feet and is a sky blue normal cock split for cinnamon, opaline and full body grey wing To produce: Albert with blue feet who is a YF2 cobalt spangle cock. I don't have any adult pictures of his brother cereal. BUt they look exactly the same, yet Cereal has grey feet. Albert and Cereal together Albert as baby. Blue feet develop young I see Itha has grey feet. She is a cobalt YF2 spangle cinnamon hen. Bacardi has pink feet. She is a violet YF2 opaline cinnamon spangle hen Kito has pink feet. She is a cobalt YF2 opaline spangle hen Alo has blue feet. He is a cobalt, full body colour grey wing spangle cock Then I bred Arkady to Isis Arkady has grey feet. He is a YF2 (or golden face?) sky blue normal cock split for opaline and full body colour grey wing. Isis has grey feet and she is a YF2, mauve spangle full body colour grey wing hen They had 2 chicks: Nikio has grey feet and she is a violet opaline hen. Robbie has pink feet and he is a YF2, skyblue, full body colour greywing, spangle cock Then I bought Emmett from a pet shop and bred him with Saffy (Actually they did it with out my asking). Emmett has blue feet and is a bright green spangle cock Butters is his son with Saffy: Butters has grey feet and is a DF spangle cock of the yellow series. I couldn't find any good pictures of Saffy's feet, so she could have had grey feet, but I am sure that she had pink feet. Sorry if that was too many pictures to swallow. But everyone else feel welcome to post your budgie family pictures and theories.

I have neither recessive pieds or inos yet I have pink feet. Typically I don't already have a picture of my male with the bluest feet so we'll just have to work with that. This will be a bit of fun trying to work it out. I love a good mystery.

Blue feet. I was wondering if any of you guys bred your birds based on the colour of their feet. I have 12 birds now and 3 have blue feet, 3 have pink feet and 6 have grey feet (lighter than blue almost pink). Looking at it, it seems that the gene must be co-dominant, however when looking at breeding history this does not seem to be the case. Saffy had pink feet and Izzy has grey feet (looks like pink with a grey pink, I will refer to these as grey) They had 6 babies in total. 2 of those babies have blue feet, 2 were pink footed and 2 were grey footed. The two blue footed ones are spangles. However one of the blue footed ones' other brother looks identical to him, but has grey feet ( I tell them apart by their feet!) Interestingly there were two cinnamons in that lot, however this does not dictate foot colour (as one had pink feet and the other grey). I have found that the 2 opalines spangles have pink feet. Yet my unrelated opaline has grey feet. So maybe so far, colour of feet does not link to body colour as of yet. Emmett is my other blue footed budgie. He is unrelated to all my other budgies apart from Butters who he is the father of. Emmett a blue foot mated with Saffy a pink foot to produce Butters a grey foot. Going on to the other family that I have, The Arkady/Isis family. (this is difficult as Arkady has since passed away and so has Saffy so I can't look at their feet and have to go through photos) Arkady and Isis both have grey feet and they had 2 chicks together. A pink footed thing and a grey footed thing. I find this very interesting and am trying to figure out the genetics behind it. Whether it is controlled by one gene or controlled by several, that each, put together, add a little bit more darkness to the foot. I'm going to go get some pictures of said feet. But if anyone has any theories on it post away. I find it fascinating and would one day like to breed blue feet. Sorry camera is completely flat. I'll just work with some already existing pictures.

Nice birds Your first cock looks more of a sky blue to me

Sorry to hear that. She was gorgeous

Those pictures are so sweet

okay. Phew. I was really worried that I'd offended people. I'm really good at putting my foot in my mouth. Note to all BBC people, if I sound like I'm being offensive, I'm really not meaning to

Jimmy, you are evil, you made me sound like I was bashing Aussie. I wasn't. Aussie is my top place for going on holiday too. And I know not all Aussies are mean to kiwis (it was a joke), I mean you guys for starters are awesome. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Evil eyes Jimmy.

Welcome to the forums. He looks like a DF dom pied. (not the best with the pieds is me)

Looks awesome! You just need to change those perches round, when you get time.

I don't know if that is completely true, I'm not sure, but I think that is the case. It might pay to check it out with the proper authorities Because you can import aussie dogs.

Hugs. It's a tough decision to make, but it's good that you made it.

Yea, I don't think you can import birds here any more. Which is sad.

Yes. It sounds like it could be respiratory. Take her to an avian vet. Is she squeaking voluntarily?

Have you been here Jess? I've been to Aus and while it is huge and has some awesome shops and stuff, it doesn't beat home. The people are different. I'd say stay here, we like it when our grads stay. Although I can agree with you as I want to do some work in Aus, but only for a short time. You aussies are also mean to kiwis living over there

27. When you can rattle off the daily goings on of your budgies' social lives in your aviary and cages and it sounds like a soap opera.