Normal Light Green Or Something Else?

[Jodie 0]

I am proberly the stupidest person in the world for asking this question, but I am not sure that this chick is light green as she is incredibly dark and has a blue vent. Even as she had pin feather they came out blue? Not sure why. The Dad is split to blue I am not sure if this explains that. And then there's another part of me saying she'll have an adult molt and wont be this colour??

But what are your opinions??

 

Her vent(Not a very clear picture but you can see)

Other angles

[GenericBlue 0]

looks like my dark green /rec pied hen

i to wondered why so much blue so your not that stupid your equal to me :rofl:

 

 

shes yet to moult

and as yours came out with half blue but in my case more like a single factor goldenface but unless the dad is goldenface in my case thats impossable

and im sure dads not

pretty sure :question:

[Jodie 0]

looks like my dark green /rec pied hen

i to wondered why so much blue so your not that stupid your equal to me :rofl:

 

 

shes yet to moult

and as yours came out with half blue but in my case more like a single factor goldenface but unless the dad is goldenface in my case thats impossable

and im sure dads not

pretty sure :question:

Wow! they do look alot alike. The parents are both caringing Rec pied gene. They have produced two Rec pied hens. I do believe this is a hen also.

She's still very young not yet left the nest box or flew.

She was born 31st May.

[nubbly5 0]

You have a Normal Dark Green/Rec Pied there Jodie!

 

Dark greens often have blue around rump and vent.

[Jodie 0]

You have a Normal Dark Green/Rec Pied there Jodie!

 

Dark greens often have blue around rump and vent.

 

Really....??

Cause I thought green rec pied looked like the two I already have. Could you explain other wise.

 

 

Umm... these are the parents and I am going to tell you what they are carring.

George

I know his more cause I had him off a friend and she had his parents there. Okay he is split Opaline, Cinnamon, Rec pied and blue.

 

Lumina

Where as Lumina I bought from a pet shop and have no idea of what she was carring but through breeding know she is carring rec pied.

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

When he said Dark Green/ Rec Pied, the slash means split. So she is a dark green split for rec. pied

[Jodie 0]

When he said Dark Green/ Rec Pied, the slash means split. So she is a dark green split for rec. pied

 

Ohh! I get it now!!! Wow I am stupid somtimes >.<

Alot of my the chick seem to carry rec pied. Is it domanent??

Where did the dark green come from??

Edited July 2, 2010 by Jodie

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

Recessive Pied, as it's title says, Is recessive This means both cock and hen birds can carry it (unlike sex linked, which only appears in hens as visual) . Both parents must carry the gene to reproduce visuals, but if you put the hen that is split rec. pied to a normal cock bird, you would get all normals split rec. pied.

[Jodie 0]

Recessive Pied, as it's title says, Is recessive This means both cock and hen birds can carry it (unlike sex linked, which only appears in hens as visual) . Both parents must carry the gene to reproduce visuals, but if you put the hen that is split rec. pied to a normal cock bird, you would get all normals split rec. pied.

Wow I have alot to learn about genetics.

What would happen if you put a split rec pied to a visual rec pied??

[GenericBlue 0]

then you can get rec pieds and normals hens or cocks and any normals in the nest will be defenantly split rec pied

 

 

The Recessive Pied

 

Pairings and Expectations Pairings Expectations

Recessive Pied � Normal 100% Normal/Recessive Pied

Recessive Pied � Normal/Recessive Pied 50% Normal/Recessive Pied

50% Recessive Pied

Recessive Pied � Recessive Pied 100% Recessive Pied

Normal/Recessive Pied �Normal/Recessive Pied 25% Recessive Pied

50% Normal/Recessive Pied

25% Normal

Normal/Recessive Pied � Normal 50% Normal/Recessive Pied

50% Normal

[**KAZ** 0]

When he said Dark Green/ Rec Pied, the slash means split. So she is a dark green split for rec. pied

 

 

HE is a she........................Nubbly is female as per profile info to left of post.

 

and I know for sure cos I have seen her in a dress or two

Edited July 2, 2010 by KAZ

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

When he said Dark Green/ Rec Pied, the slash means split. So she is a dark green split for rec. pied

 

 

HE is a she........................Nubbly is female as per profile info to left of post.

 

and I know for sure cos I have seen her in a dress or two

 

Sorry nubbly! I do know she is a female, sorry for my bad typing skills this is what happens when I have cold hands

[Jodie 0]

Updated picture's

Is she defonatley dark green??

 

The little thing just left the nest box yesterday. Wont stay in either when I put her back, XD

 

 

 

Edited July 7, 2010 by Jodie

[GenericBlue 0]

are you asking this as both peronts are light green so

how did i get a dark green ???

cause if the answer to my question is yes

then maybe

i will say just maybe

shes a violet light green

but really mum and dad look nothing like violet modifier is in them and they either are violet light green or their not

and both look not so >>>> im going to say its not violet light green if you were hopeful it is

sorry

but also cant be dark green if mum and dad are both light

so it must be a very nicely colored light green chick if not dark when molts may lighten im not good with greens yet myself as only ever breed blue based pets before show birds

im not much help sorry

[nubbly5 0]

Hmmm it does look like both parents are light green.......... And it looks like neither parents carry violet. Are you breeding in a colony situation? I ask this only to find out if there is any chance another cock could have mated with the hen. Oh and I got it a bit wrong - IF these parents are indeed the parents of this chick - there is a 25% chance of it carrying NO rec pied, 50% chance of it being /rec pied.

 

Sorry about the / thing. I just assume that people know what it means - my bad.

 

AND There is only one situation I can remember that you will have EVER seen me in a dress, Kaz! It's a VERY rare thing.

Edited July 8, 2010 by nubbly5

[RIPbudgies 0]

AND There is only one situation I can remember that you will have EVER seen me in a dress, Kaz! It's a VERY rare thing.

 

:rofl: :rofl:

 

Yup, know exactly where ya coming from there Nubbs!

[**KAZ** 0]

AND There is only one situation I can remember that you will have EVER seen me in a dress, Kaz! It's a VERY rare thing.

 

:rofl: :rofl:

 

Yup, know exactly where ya coming from there Nubbs!

 

Me too :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

 

found this photo already on BBC forum .............

 

Ghalib and Janice Al Nassar and ?

Edited July 8, 2010 by KAZ

[nubbly5 0]

yep okay! But that could be a pair of overalls!

 

Janice is a very lovely lady!

Edited July 8, 2010 by nubbly5

[Jodie 0]

Hmmm it does look like both parents are light green.......... And it looks like neither parents carry violet. Are you breeding in a colony situation? I ask this only to find out if there is any chance another cock could have mated with the hen. Oh and I got it a bit wrong - IF these parents are indeed the parents of this chick - there is a 25% chance of it carrying NO rec pied, 50% chance of it being /rec pied.

 

Sorry about the / thing. I just assume that people know what it means - my bad.

 

AND There is only one situation I can remember that you will have EVER seen me in a dress, Kaz! It's a VERY rare thing.

 

No they are not bred in a colony situation I chose them both and put them into a breeding cage. So they are the only parents of the chick. But she/he is defonatly not in my oppinoin a light green, but other wise I have no clue what it is. I know the dads parentage. His father was a normal green split pied and blue. And the mother was a cinnamon opaline yf2 skyblue. And my hen the mother of these chicks I only know that she is split rec pied because of breeding, so in my opinion she could be masked something...I dont know.

[nubbly5 0]

Well Jodie - then it's a bit of a mystery I reckon! The parents both appear to be light green (MAYBE one is actually a dark green?!) and neither look to have violet. The only real options that I can see is that the chick is either dark green or violet light green. Either of those options given that both parents seem to be normal light greens, without any violet, are impossible.

 

So either it's one of those mysterious happenings or something else is going on.

 

Another dumb question...... how long between taking the pair out of the general flight to when the hen laid?

 

Could you take a picture of both parents together? It could be that the different light of the photo's above is hiding the fact that one of them is in fact dark green.

Edited July 9, 2010 by nubbly5

[GenericBlue 0]

Well Jodie - then it's a bit of a mystery I reckon! The parents both appear to be light green (MAYBE one is actually a dark green?!) and neither look to have violet. The only real options that I can see is that the chick is either dark green or violet light green. Either of those options given that both parents seem to be normal light greens, without any violet, are impossible.

 

So either it's one of those mysterious happenings or something else is going on.

 

Another dumb question...... how long between taking the pair out of the general flight to when the hen laid?

 

Could you take a picture of both parents together? It could be that the different light of the photo's above is hiding the fact that one of them is in fact dark green.

 

 

 

yep everything nubbly said its impossable geneticlly

[RIPbudgies 0]

Jodie, in the pics you posted earlier in the thread you have two Recessive Pieds. I can see one is a baby but I cannot see the other too well to determine if it is an adult or not. Can you confirm it's age.

 

As already mentioned the parents of the chick look like Light Greens. Violet Light Greens are darker so it does not look like you have and violet factor floating around. Is it possible that the Recessive Pied, if it is an adult, is the other parent as that bird is a Dark Green.

[Jodie 0]

Well Jodie - then it's a bit of a mystery I reckon! The parents both appear to be light green (MAYBE one is actually a dark green?!) and neither look to have violet. The only real options that I can see is that the chick is either dark green or violet light green. Either of those options given that both parents seem to be normal light greens, without any violet, are impossible.So either it's one of those mysterious happenings or something else is going on.Another dumb question...... how long between taking the pair out of the general flight to when the hen laid? Could you take a picture of both parents together? It could be that the different light of the photo's above is hiding the fact that one of them is in fact dark green.

My Hen and Cock are my pets and have always been in a cage together there is no chance at all she has bred with another cock he is the only one who been in her cage with her. As I have no aviary as of yet I am however going to build one in the coming months. I am also beating myself up because I have no clue to what colour the chick is and its making me really angry...so sorry if am too impulsive about wanting to know

Jodie, in the pics you posted earlier in the thread you have two Recessive Pieds. I can see one is a baby but I cannot see the other too well to determine if it is an adult or not. Can you confirm it's age. As already mentioned the parents of the chick look like Light Greens. Violet Light Greens are darker so it does not look like you have and violet factor floating around. Is it possible that the Recessive Pied, if it is an adult, is the other parent as that bird is a Dark Green.

The two rec pied I have are siblings though not of the same clutch one is a baby from this one the other is an almost 2 year old. And they are both HENS so that is impossible. And they are both children to Lumina so I would never let them intensionally breed.

[nubbly5 0]

Sorry Jodie, we are trying to help!

 

Can you get a picture of the 2 parents in the same shot. The baby IS a dark green (or at a pinch a light green violet). So given the supposed impossibility of this outcome, I'd like to see if we have missed seeing something in the adults. OR it is possible that this is an mutation - extremely unlikely but still possible.

 

Just noted something else - when I looked at the rec pied photo I noted that it looked to be dark green also. You said that they are siblings - are they also full siblings to the dark green chick?

Edited July 10, 2010 by nubbly5

[RIPbudgies 0]

I am having an idea what we could be dealing with here but at this stage of the query I would rather not say. Like nubbly suggested, pics of parents in the same photo so to replicate exact same conditions. To get better photos do not take under incandesant light (light bulb), put them outside but not in direct sunlight. DO NOT use a flash!