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Thank you Thanks! I already know their mutations, mostly. Just want to see what everyone's opinions are Yea the mom is a goldenface skyviolet so the first chick is a goldenface skyviolet as well, will look just like mom without the opaline part. I wish they were double factors though, I love the way they look now, blue with their golden faces

Yea I've seen quite a few greywings at the pet store, I never bought one though. I never knew that any of my budgies would be split for it or that the two that were split would end up as a pair I read that to get a full bodied color greywing you need a clearwing gene and a greywing gene. So that would mean that if my chick is a FBC Greywing then one of the parents is split clearwing ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jasper an Nixie's - Skyblue normal cock X Goldenface(SF) skyblue violet opaline hen Both parents split for greywing? or one for greywing one for clearwing? Chick 1 - Patches are purple/violet, mask is a lot brighter, body color has more of a violet tinge Chick 2 Chick 3 - Patches are purple/violet, mask is a lot brighter, body color has more of a violet tinge Chick 4 Chick 5 Chick 6 Ages for this clutch: Chick 1 - 26 days old Chick 2 - 25 days old Chick 3 - 23 days old Chick 4 - 21 days old Chick 5 - 17 days old Chick 6 - 15 days old ZuZu and Cielito's chicks - Skyblue dominant pied opaline cock X YF2 skyblue violet recessive pied hen Chick 1 - A very light creamy yellow, not white Chick 2 - A very light creamy yellow, not white Chick 3 - A very light creamy yellow, not white Ages for this clutch: Chick 1 - 23 days old Chick 2 - 21 days old Chick 3 - 19 days old Sonny and Fiona's chicks - Goldenface cobalt dominant pied cock X Light green normal hen Cock could be clearflight pied as well? I realized the hen is a light green and not a dark green. Chick 1 - This chick is getting skyblue tail feathers, and even more blue on his legs, belly and vent area. But he is dark green Chick 2 Chick 3 Chick 4 Chick 5 Ages for this clutch: Chick 1 - 18 days old Chick 2 - 17 days old Chick 3 - 16 days old Chick 4 - 14 days old Chick 5 - 11 days old Want to guess on their mutations?

Oh thanks for the help This was all a surprise, I just wanted to understand what was it that happened. I was only expecting blue goldenface normals so I was a little confused with these outcomes So if I understood correctly the chicks that got the gene from both parents are the visual greywings, chicks that only got one gene are split and then I get the chicks that didn't get it at all, right? This is biology all over again

Some of Fiona's chicks, the three oldest. One of Cielito's Nixie's oldest three.

Can hens be slpit for greywing then? I thought it had to be visual in hens? Will the other chicks carry the gene? I'm confused :rofl:

How does the greywing gene work? I have a pair: Normal skyblue cock and a goldenface skyblue violet opaline hen. And I got two greywing chicks from them.. I think. Here's the oldest His body feathers are coming out a bright skyblue violet, not diluted. And I was also wondering.. I know my male chicks from this pair will be split for opaline. How about the greywing? Is that sex linked as well? Don't know anything about that one :rofl: Or are they greywing?

Yea :rofl: That was a surprise, never expected Jasper to be split greywing, and it looks like a full body color greywing too since his body feathers are coming out a very bright violet skyblue. I'm really excited about him, the youngest one also looks like a greywing

Oh yes he is a very big boy! and he is also a violet, which was a nice surprise since I wasn't aware of it even though it was suspected because of his vibrant color :rofl:

I handle them everyday to get them used to hands, I usually put them out only a few minutes while I clean the nest boxes, then they get handled and I take pictures. Every other day I weight them. They are parent raised

Jasper & Nixie - Skyblue Normal x Goldenface skyblue violet opaline ZuZu & Cielito - Skyblue dominant pied opaline x Yellowface skyblue violet recessive pied Sonny & Fiona - Goldenface cobalt dominant pied - Dark green normal http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/C...es/IMG_2237.jpg Those are my current pairs and this is my late journal. I have a very detailed journal on another forum but since there's chicks already I'll just skip to them on this one. You can correct me if I'm wrong on the mutations :party0011: Jasper and Nixie's Chick 1 and 2 Chick 3 and Cielito's 2 (Foster) Had to foster Cielito's chick 2 because of a very long story but he is doing great now All clean :laughter: Ages and weights for this clutch: Chick 1 - 20 days old - 38g Chick 2 - 19 days old - 35g Chick 3 - 17 days old - 34g Chick 4 - 15 days old - 28g Chick 5 - 11 days old - 18g Chick 6 - 09 days old - 15g

Cute birds, this is exciting

Here's my current in flock in random order. My camera is horrible at capturing the violet but you can believe me on those, you can also believe on their genders :party0011: T.Bow - Male - Goldenface cobalt normal. I really don't know why his markings are dark grey instead of black. Eldin - Female - Yellowface skyblue violet recessive pied. Pakku and Sosuke - Males - Skyblue violet opaline and Greygreen opaline both slpit for ino. Haru - Male - Violet olive opaline / ino Roku - Male - Grey opaline / ino Kenji - Male - Green series Dark Eyed Clear. Cielito - Female - Yellowface skyblue violet recessive pied. Fiona - Female - Dark green normal. Snowflake - Female - Albino masking opaline. Louie - Male - Light green recessive pied. Jasper - Male - Skyblue normal. Sonny - Male - Goldenface cobalt dominant pied. Oliver - Violet greygreen opaline Nixie - Female - Goldenface skyblue violet opaline. ZuZu - Male - Skyblue dominant pied opaline. Lanayru - Female - Skyblue violet clearflight pied. And that's all of them plus five of my current chicks that will be staying with me

Here's a picture of the parents :party0011: I'll post a new thread for an update on my entire flock, I know you've had some chicks too. I really want to see! :laughter:

Hello everybody Just wanted to drop by and give you all an update on my flock, I'm very inactive in this forum, thinking I haven't posted in more than 9 months or so.. But anyways.. since I last posted I've set up a pair in early March and four beautiful chicks came out of that clutch and here they are, all hatched in late march. Parents were a Violet greygreen opaline cock split for blue and an albino hen masking opaline, both with one dark factor Four males split for ino, 22 - 26 days old. I kept all four. Here they are now at 4 months old Greygreen opaline / ino Violet skyblue opaline / ino Grey opaline / ino Violet olive opaline / ino Right now I have three pairs set up with a total of 14 chicks ranging from 5 to 20 days old. I don't breed Show types just Pet types. Here's two of my chicks They are not siblings, the one at the top is being fostered. The one at the bottom is the offspring of a skyblue normal cock and a goldenface violet skyblue opaline hen. I'll show you more pictures once they all feather up, all 14 of them :rofl:

All that is a lot of work! I rather do it all in the moment. They get fresh food everyday. Besides my mom would never allow me to keep food in the freezer that was meant to be for the budgies haha.

Yep I know and I completely understand and have nothing against it! Just not when the questions have nothing to do with the question being asked. And I was getting a little scared to ask questions mainly because I was scared of the answers themselves. We are not all expert and super experienced like most of you are. Just here to learn that's all. Take it easy Its all good now

I've been gone for a long time. To be honest I left this forum because I was feeling a little uneasy asking questions here. Hard to get answers without getting a million questions back! But I have no more questions to ask. At least not here. And I have lots to share Thanks to all who helped me get my Sonny back to health. (He had scaly face mites) I believe it was nubbly? at least that's who I remember! He is doing great and the mites are completely gone. Well I put two pairs down for breeding on September, only one pair seemed interested and currently have one egg, should be laying another one today. The other pair was very bonded but never mated. I returned them to the flock and will try them again later maybe next year. I'm hoping my current pair won't have a big clutch so I won't have to foster any eggs since I can't. I'm not too worried about that since they are first timers and so far they are doing great! My hen is already sitting on the egg. He feeds her around the clock and helps her warm the egg. They have a huge bond those two That's all! Wish us luck! Note: Feel free to move this thread.. wasn't sure were to post it. -Corina

Breeding diet ?? It should be the same as that all the time...............all the best of food and fresh vegies etc. Too late wont come into it. There wont be a time thats too late. Mostly this is about our excitement and anxiety to breed. I feel your excitement, but waiting would be best right now. Do NOT put a nestbox in a mixed cage not even for a few minutes. Bad move. You have waited this long and its admirable that you have....another month or so isnt much longer to wait.Okay.. by breeding diet I mean the same food that they had been having. But adding more protein, calcium, soft food, eggfood, and all that little extra breeding budgies need. I've read about it here.The idea of putting in a nest box to see if she is ready I got from this same forum.I won't breed them now. I've read on here that many of you separate your budgies from the rest of the flock a month or so before breeding so you can get them prepared and make sure they are in their top shape and fit.I stated that my hen is old enough and that the cocks will be next month. One of my cocks is already in breeding condition as well as the hen.All I'm asking is if now is a good time to start preparing them to breed them next month.Hopefully I'm clear enough now. Oh......... I guess I got the title wrong. It should have been. "Should I start preparing her now" Silly me.

Head bobbing, louder that usual, feeding her alot, going all over the flight like crazy without stopping, over excited, etc... is that what you mean by overactive?

Hmm when a cock is in breeding condition his cere should be a deep blue.. that would be my Oliver I think Sonny is getting there too. Is there a way to tell their age for sure? Oh and I won't breed them now.. I would wait until september.. they will be 12 months there. But is it a good idea to separate them now and change their diet to the breeding diet? without nest boxes that is. They would be in holding cages.

I've been waiting for my flock to grow up so I can breed again. Some of them won't be ready until march 2010. However I have a hen that is 12 months now or older.. I got her last august so she must be older maybe around 15 months. The thing is that I was waiting to breed her later this year so my cocks can be old enough as well. I have two that will be a year old in december for sure maybe older as well.. I got them around march and they were about 6 months old but since I'm not sure I decided to wait until december. Okay the question: She is in breeding condition, she's been in breeding condition since after her first moult with me but she is showing signs that she wants to breed now. She has shown signs of wanting to mate before but now its different. She gets into the seed dishes and starts kicking all the seeds out, she has been trying to mate with another of my hens. Six handsome boys in the cage but she chooses another hen lol. I'm gonna put a nest box in there and see if she is interested, just for a few minutes of course. But first.... What do you all think? Should I separate her and prepare her for breeding now that she is ready? I'm afraid that if I wait until later then its gonna be too late. My two boys.. lets say that they were 6 months or older in march by now they should be 11 months old would that be okay or do you think I should wait the whole month? One of them has a very blue cere the other one's is blue and dark purple.. and which one should I choose? I'll get to those questions later first I want to know if If I should get ready now or not. Oh.. and another one of my hens is as old as the boys are, not in breeding condition yet but her cere is getting darker and darker everyday so she is getting there. So I thought I could pair her up with the other cock that way I'll have two pairs down. Another of my hens will be a year old in september but she is nowhere near breeding condition yet. If you need pictures just ask. Thanks in advance for the help -Corina

I thought of that but I have no building skills and it would be the same trying to find the wire fronts. Same with nest boxes.. I don't like the ones they sell around here.