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Geez that's a nice one GB! You'd be happy with that one no doubt.

Beautiful!

An amazing effort Dean to go from a horror season to winning BIS! I did say that once things started to fall in place it would all seem like a distant memory! And that dark green is a smasher! And going on the pics I can fully see why they pics him over the dark green - very very nice! So many congratulations from me on a well deserved win.

Well finally we have fallows out of the nest. I bragged that we had had 7 of 8 fertile eggs hatch from my fallow pair only to have one tiny baby die but you have no idea how happy 6 visual fallows makes me after such a hard run to try and get any. None the less all the fallow cocks I have purchased at auction came over like a bag of feathers on bones and so far stubbornly refuse to come into any sort of condition and the one nice split cock that I bought that is in condition, although fertile is not filling eggs so I guess that's an AI effort. F_ING FALLOWS!!!!! Still here are the results of my efforts so far and the visual pair is going down for another round!!!

Hi All A bit of a weird question but I'll give you some background. Last month my best friend died after an extended illness. I've been a skeptic all my life but would really love to believe that there is something to the "life after death" and psychic phenomena but after several psychic visits and now waiting for some sign that my friend is still out there somewhere (as well as knowing the father of one of the Claremont serial killer victims (there's a whole other story in there too)) I'd have to say that I'm still a skeptic. I just want to know if others feel similarly or if there is something that has happened to them that has made them "believe"? I'd love to hear any experiences.

find a room you two!

Need better pics you bum!

The cock can still be homozygous for green as well as being split for lutino (or lacewing) as both these genes occur on different alleles.

Would like to see the eyes better but they kinda look black (or at least not the ino red) from that picture.

Yes opaline does dilute out the colour a little but not as much as cinnamon. The combination of the two produce nice pastel colours.

Some more pics but random this time. Some of the ones you've already seen and a couple of different ones. My first ever feather duster in 10 years and it's nest sibling. I was hoping for some olives from the 2 dark green parents of this chick, but I'll still take this light green opaline spangle! A quite special little (or not so little) BES. This is the youngest sibling in a nest of four very nice babies (a sky opaline, 2 dark green opaline spangles and this one). I thought she was going to be smaller than her siblings but I was wrong - she has turned out very very nicely AND has a very sweet nature. The single lacewing baby rescued from it's psycho-cock father (that sounds rather rude doesn't it!!!! ).

Gorgeous Dean! At last some wonderful results to repay your tenacity in continuing with your show lines. I'd kill to have babies like these in my breeding room! Lucky you to have purchased such a good cock that breeds so true. And Kaz! Well I'm glad the master budgie sexer has proven to me that even you can get it wrong! I've never ever had the confidence to say that I get it right 99% of the time (and especially very young babies) as there are always birds such as these that can be tricky even at older ages. I've had a number of birds like this that trick you for ages until all of a sudden that "cock" grows up to be a hen (not often the other way around though, mind you....). Maybe 90 percent?! Hey?

Mother is actually a cinnamon opaline olive.

The dusks that RIP appear to have actually originate from clearwing stock that I purchased from eastern states and the cock RIP is talking about was bred here in my aviary, so it's an interesting topic for me as well. So Paul from Newey would it be possible for you to describe the differences that YOU saw in dusk budgies compared to normal colours? Please..........

My first instinct said all hens.

My little dealing with the WBO makes me think that it's an irrelevant organisation, at least for us anyway. Although the ANBC is a member of the WBO it seems that we still do our own thing. For example a little while ago the WBO was trying to establish a pictorial standard similar to the ANBC pictorial - you know the pretty bidgie depicted in the standard. Well the pictorial was released with minutes of the meeting and the resolution to adopt the standard across the world. Australia effectively said, nick off, we prefer our own and we will continue with it's use until such a time as either we develop something else OR the WBO comes up with a better one. In fact the ANBC suggested that the WBO use our pictorial standard instead. So with that little bit of insight I would have to agree at least in an Australian sense - the WBO has little relevance to us here except for maybe on a political level where judges are angling for international judging gigs.

Don't forget lacewings and fallows born with red eyes.

Looks like it although I wouldn't like to guess at what type of yellow face and it might just be a cobalt rather than violet but photos never show violet properly so I won't say that it's not. And I think it's a boy but the photos really are not good enough to tell properly.

Hen and cock for me (in that order).

Wow some peoples have way two much time on their hands'

I'll pitch at spangle olive cock - at least until better photo's present themselves (hint hint rigger ). Cheek patches look too dark for me to say grey green but the pics are kinda ambiguous.

Not if it's a dominant mutation. It depends more on how the mutation is inherited. The reason people breed back to parents is that they are trying to perpetuate a recessive trait or if they don't know the inheritance I suppose that's a sensible place to start.

You know, seeing as all of our mutations came about as a random change in the DNA, changing the normal to something different, I suppose there is always the tiniest possibility that that same "error" could pop up again, and this guy could get a new mutation of albino. Boy, wouldn't that firmly cement his incorrect theory! Definitely Finnie! I was dicussing resistance development with a prominent entomologist here is Australia and he said that 1 in every 10,000 mytoses (whatever the plural of mytosis is anyway) produces a mutation. Given this, there is always the chance of something mutating the issue is that it's not always something that is visually obvious. Also many mutants are not as thrifty as others and many die out before we even know that they might be a new variety. But yes there is ALWAYS a chance of something different popping out of the woodwork, just it's going to be a very slim chance. AND you can get different genes that do the same thing so technically Jimmy you can get a visually blue bird one of 2 ways that is currently known about. Either a bird with 2 recessive blue genes or a bird with 2 partially dominant yf m1 genes. I have a family that seems to have green cocks I pair a blue cock and a green hen and then green hens when I pair green cock and blue hen - it's just something I've noticed with this family but I haven't quantified it, maybe there is some sex linkage with colour inheritance in this family - who knows I guess a lot of things are possible but need time and patience AND careful recording to prove or disprove it.

Thanks Finnie Yes I'm very pleased with him. His Dad was also beautiful and was selected as 4th (we have a sort of state reserve for the Nats - top 3 go, 4th gets noted and called upon if something happens to one of the other 3) in our state selections in the year that WA won the grey class so he had some super stiff competition. I lost his dad this year whilst we were away overseas but have many other sons and daughters including this grey boy. And to everyone else too! Thank you. I do love seeing the results of the pairings and watching the babies feather up - maybe a little surprise here and there - so satisfying.

okay Jimmy, just for you - this time a pictorial update. This pair have 4 chicks. I'm pretty happy with the quality that the cock has put into the pairing. He is from my top family which has produced quality budgies over a long period of time and the line breeds pretty true. Any cocks from this pairing will be split lacewing. Cinnamon Opaline Grey Cinnamon Grey Green - not the width of head that is not obvious from the frontal photo. A very pretty little grey. And another handy Cinnamon Grey Green. This is what Daddy looked like just out of the nest last year - good similarities even using a lesser hen and these babies are a bit younger than he was in this picture. This pair also has 4 chicks. I'm not as happy with the results of this pairing although the chicks will likely grow on. Note the shorter masks and less width across the cere in all of these babies. Any cocks will be split lacewing and all these chicks will be retained to see how they grow on. This pair has 4 chicks (cock is normal green (10th place at Nats) hen is horrobin (1/2 sister to opaline nats winner)). These chicks have been eagerly watched by me and are turning out very nicely. And 2 very cute but pet shop sized violets bred from a beautiful violet clearwing (hence the small size) and a skyblue hen. I half expected skys but 2 violets from the 2 hatchees was nice.