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yeah i get all the ins and outs what i dont get is what mine are okay they are dom pies i get that i get that the diffrence between a dom pie and a clearfly pie is but the wing markings i understand the bit where you can have both dom and clear flight in one bird (a fult) but i dont get how you tell with out test breeding if i have a dom pie with clearflight also i need to know or i may be puting the wrong bird in the mix to get what i want ? the cin colbolt upon being paired with a grey blue opaline cock produced 1 full normal wing opaline hen dom pie 1 dom pie grey hen half sholder marking 1 opaline dom pie grey mauve hen full wing markings 1 cobalt blue rececive pie cock /cin lepord spoted markings 1 sky blue dompie opaline cock quarter sholder wing markings she has to be opaline to produes male opalines true ? so that would make her come from what ? as the fathers is a opaline grey blue mother identaical to him his father was a normal sky blue/opaline his brother a the opaline cocks was a normal grey mabe if i just ask what i need to pair up to get a clear wing dom pie spangle opaline chick happening it would be easyer or can i not ?

thanks sailor for takeing the time to help me are those two opaline they are arnt they the dom pie cobalt cin and grey hen ? also i am confussed as the spangle is not grey their is a diluted grey well thats what everyone here told me 2 months ago she is opaline with bad markings lol thats here look she is grey defenently what ever her type but the other spangle has sky blue on her chest and is the exact colour of this bird only softer and looks lavender not blue or grey she has sky blue a tad if you really look ( picture 2 ) i think she is cin wing these are difrent birds top one is a sky 1f violet cin spangle hen n 2 picture the bird in question

i wold say it wouldnt need to be more than 3 ml thick plastics prity tough just so long its not flexable mb perspects would be the shot i think

yes i know these ones im talking are not rececive rececive i know very well breed them always doms clearflights no clue grey feet on doms im told no but im telling you yes not rececive they are something else

thank you so much sailor i will go see if i can name my birds their , i have been doing the mutations topics but every one says a diffrent thing looking at that i have all that info printed out but still their are to many crossed points of views for me to be positive what exactly i have guess i will just have to keep test breeding, its just soooo much extra work if only i knew a breeder with recorlds i could buy from i would sell the lot exept the ones i have windled through and just start over more expencive but in my case not really as i dont want more than a bout 6 pairs going at once so thats stagered 18 pairs with a few extras no more than 100 birds all up i have around 60. 70 now most just sitting pretty i just want some productiveness but with what i have done i need to wait 2 years before i can get my rezults even then its just a guess from what i belive i will get from whom i have breed untill then my breedings are all test breedings to find genetic inheritance i did want a chalange but i think i bit of more than i can chew :laughter: :question:

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. i think im getting to the point that as long as i get the color i want and eventually tie that in with size im not to bothered a bout type i will find that all out after the fact i do every thing else backwards so why should my bird breeding be diffrent :question: :laughter:

does seem that way although i have dom pies with grey blue feet go figure i thought they were ment to have pink feet ?

i do like the holding cages

now they are really cool i love the clear slide doors less interferance i want some them i love them when i move though and have a better set up thanks liv i will have to get on to thoughs

they cool but is it big enough ? looked kind of small the box i mean

couldnt you just sillicon the boxes like a fish tank and add a wire frount air holes along the top alway to vent air flow a hole cut with a whole saw on side end of box so you can add or remove it of corse it wold have a latch door plug that twists on and off they work best to fit back in when box gone not forgetting the siide out floor to clean would have a wire floor and frount so floor can be plastic slide i know what i mean i could make that but is their any real advantage apart from the mite ?

okay i will try :rofl: pink rececive pie grey wing (i think) blue feet dilute grey badly marked opaline spangle :rofl: grey feet grey blue feet on a god knows what a budgie :laughter: purpley grey bluey feet on two normal vishual violet cobolts blue purple feet on my yft2 colbolt vishual violet spangle boy blue grey feet on cin wing vishual violet sky boy (he is very violet purple in life 0 grey blue feet on these two what ever color and viriarty they are i have others but thats it thats me :question:

so he is just a spangle yf t2 well i got that right and the other two are just dom pie nothing more okay so far my recolds are right how about these ones this i think dom opaline coboalt cinnimon pie ? another also dom pie grey mauvenexta df tf2 dom pie ? has she any other trates? she is sky blueam i missing anythingthe cin wing must be holding rececive as she had a rececive pie baby and clearflight pies i think she is clearflight pied would i be right the one beneath is her daughterTwo - It could be a spangle dominant pied but often a bird with very few markings like this is a double factor dominant pied. Do you know what mutations it's parents were?. To be a double factor dominant pied both parents would be dominant pieds. To be a spangle dominant pied one parent would be spangle and the other dominant pied. (The blue on the back of it's head suggests spangle)no this bird i do not know the heratage of i think spangle or df dom i am going to breed him with the hen he is near she is a violet sky spangle pos cin mabe clear wing i am pretty sure opaline that way i was hopeing to work out what he really was what should the out come be if he is spangle dom pie like i think with this hen ?please i can not breed these two till march aprilsorry i lost half the pics and stuff this makes no sence i give up im over it thank you all any way

thanks sailor im giving myself anoyher refresh on the genetics and finding out what birds i really have to what i think mabe i have a tresure chest ?

this does my head in i know its not that hard but i thought i understood but seems i do not can i get a full typing on following birds mutations and colours please as other wize i am going to go in circles .... one i think he is a colbalt opaline dome pie ? two i think he is a colbalt spangle dom pie ? but is he double factor or clear wing mabe or neither three this one really does my head in i thought he was a dom pie opaline spange yf t2 when chick see the defenent green band over his sky blue i know he has yellow doing that but it was very promenent in nest feathering up but now he just looks like an opaline yft2 sky blue spangle ? and is he clear flight or am i compleatly wrong ? i have others so please check back later as i want to make sure i have them right but decided to do what pearce does and post a few at a time see if that helps the posts come out right

jimmy i couldnt emadgine a bird getting his mouth around that like it though

really cause i have breed pies with that simular feathering i just thought it normal as i know nothing about any pie exept the rececive from a clearflight and a normal bird with spangle inheritance /opaline cock i can not get my head around genetics so but the hen was /rec anyhow he is lovley i will hunt down the picture of my one kaz and send it to you one day i thought the dom pie gene over rode the spangle but it could show in the chicks just shows you i know nothing

mice are very weary they send out a scout if the scout does not return they stay clear for a few days depends on the family unit really try chocolate on your traps works every time move your trap about 1 foot away from where you placed it last mb

dr nat cheers i needed all that info specilly how to get a one factor yf out of two type two yellow face and i will need to read it over and over again lol :yes: :hug:

is it posable he has spangle in him kaz

kaz i lovvvvvve stud first green bird i have actually really thought :what: :lol2: :yes: your first boy the one mums colour but dads looks :purr: fict love him i bet you are proud as punch i would be worth your money...i say :hug: :anim_19: i hope you get more geog bubbys like him

pics yes pics love them

thats so cool i love to hear things like that :yes: keep up loving them :hug: they are so worth our respect and time given

i say we dont need to save everything although it would be nice put her back where she was found if the bird is young it will not be to late for mum n dad to find her if old or sick nothing you can rea,lly do

worth the wait i think very cute