Angelic Vampyre

Hmmm when are you planning on doing this again? I am so temped to fly to Perth and meet you and drive back, ROAD TRIP, what we have done like two now and I like your kids (unlike other peoples spawn who are the devils....) yes where was I, keep me in mind cause if you are going via Kaz's that is something I would like to see. *note to self take NO money with you or give it all to MBs kids cause they will spend less of it them me!*

Lucy MB and I sort of do this and in the future will be doing it more. The only thing I would recommend is that you might want to keep them apart for 5 - 10 days to let them settle form the stress of being caught and moved before moving them into the avairy. But others might have a different opinion. In the past few weeks I have found out how important it is to Quarantine but if all your birds are healthy just make sure to quarantine birds for outside sources for the full 30 - 60 days.

SW thanks for the info I am now confused so going to go do more reserch. Kaz sweet idea will try the bread soaked in meds water Everyone else thanks for the well wishes and kind words.

Thanks for your concern Liv I am fine, I grew up on a farm giving that stuff to cows and horses and the like and know what to do if I get lots on myself. Priceless Budgie moment!

Thanks Kaz it's good it know what I have to do to move forward. As much of a pain in the backside this is it's also not in a strange sort of way. My guys fromthe avairy had to get moved to the cages anyway and really now i just have to make up water for them and got get it out of my dispenser. Also saves me time as they are all on veggie free diets Every time something like this happens I learn something from it and hopefully I can be a better Budgie owner and breeder because of it. More cages going up tonight and avairy guys getting caught on the weekend as the builder wants to cut wood near them and I don't want them near the dust. All in all I think not a bad result and if I come out of this with all my birds then yeah me. PS I assume you updated the topic title for me, thanks.

Just wait Kaz is from Perth??? Kaz has really nice Budgies! OH MY GOD Kaz you had better lock your avairy up tight!

LOL there is a very good book ( I think I might have a copy of it) called Hoildays with Dogs the RACV puts it out.

okay so I rang the vet he faxed me through some information then the vet nurse faxed me through the information again written out so I could read it (I am really liking this vet) Ashley shows trace signs of Trichomona aka gapeworm or air-sac mites. These are passed on from bird to bird through feeding (why the other girl got as sick as quick and the third bird in the cage seems better then the two girls as he has nothing to do with them.) He said to look out for Raised caseous lesions around the face or large amounts of vomit if this becomes apparent then we will be looking at putting the birds on Camidazole or Ronidazole but not Emtryl (which a lot of non avian vets give to the bird but has a high toxicity level) However he believes that with the doxyclin and smaller intervals between the invermetcin (e.g. once a week for the next 4 weeks) then we should be covered. She does however have.... you guessed it Psittacosis and a pretty advanced case at that, which is not good but nice to know that I did not do anything wrong in quarantine but something she came to my house with. Again explains why the other hen has it and the cock from a different breeder is boarderline and maybe has it. The cock (Kadaj) will have caught it off them and only just starting to develop signs. The vet thinks that she might have had it in the past and been given something like Triple C which can in most cases mask the effects and diminish the signs of illness, he has known a lot of breeders who will use this to get rid of cull birds at a sale instead of missing the sale with sick birds. Then a week or two out the last of the Triple C leaves their system and BANG they fade and they fade fast, another reason why it seemed to come on so quick and with no warning. They also have been contagious for the entire time even though they have not shown any signs of being ill. GRRR at breeder. So everyone gets the doxyclin for 6 weeks, the aviary guys and the guys in the study who show no signs should be right with a 2 - 3 week course but as I have said before the measurement spoon makes two liters I go through two liters when I do water up for everyone so just going to leave everyone on it for the same amount of time. Also found out the aviary guys are drinking water off the roof of the aviary but they have to come into holding cages while I do my breeding room so I know they will be treated when that happens. I also have to disinfect the cages on a weekly base to stop Trichomona from remaining in the cages and re infecting the birds however this is rare as they parasites do not live for long outside of the birds body. I am glad I split the two hens up from the cock as if the do have Trichomona they can't be feeding him or him feeding them and therefore should stop the transfer. As I get more cages together I might even split them up as well. MB Dr said - Antibiotic medicines should be added to a teaspoon of Lorikeet's favorite juice at a rate of 25 - 50mg of medication to 1 kg of bird. He hopes that you can get some doxcylin as it sounds like they have the same thing my guys have. Make sure they drink and do no vomit it back up, if they do repeat process no more then twice for the next 30 days at least. He would like to see them however... So all in all I think I have found a vet I like. My vet is good but he is never there and it takes about 30min to drive to him. These guys are 5 mins down the road and the other lady who works at this clinic is good but a bit rough with my birds and gives lectures of what you are doing wrong and wants you to spend big bucks. This guy is very relaxed, did a bunch of tests and cost me less then last time when I saw the lady and she did squat and charged me almost $200!

Good that you finally have a direction with the boy. Hopefully this can be the start of a great realationship between the two of you and least you know he is in good hands now.

Welcome back you have been missed!

Thanks Kaz that is a good idea.

Liv thought about that but my guys use around 2 liters anyway. Also the way the measure spoon is it would be hard to measure out half and i would be worried that they would not be getting enough.

the measure I have makes 2 liters of water so unless I want to poor it down the drain it might just be easier to keep everyone on it. Do you know the diease that he is talking about I have serched and can't find anything like what he said and wrote.

He has given it to me for 15 days as minimum for everyone not showing signs (eg the avairy, and the guys in my study) I can have the other guys on it for 4 - 6 weeks or untill a week after symptoms clear. So going to keep track and release them into holding cages as they get better then do a short 10 day quarantine before moving them in with my flock.

Is that legal???? So want to do this! MB has a son about the same age and he is really good about the birds she has. I look after a boy who is now three and he has spent large amounts of time at my house. At 18months he was calling mac (the grumpy dog) Grumpy and would not go near him. he always asked before he approached my bird cages so I can't see how this is much different!

Ivan my breeder/pet shop owner keeps telling me that he is going to start charging me rent, however the other day I sold this lady a puppy so I told him he has to start giving me a wage!

okay so Sky is getting better everything is fine until today I come home at lunch and notice tail bobbing and discharge from the cere on Ashley..... so I pull her out of the quarantine cage and put her and the other girl I have who also does not look well in one of my new cages which arrived today (thank god) the third Budgie Kadaj seemed okay so left him in his cage. Go back to work come home and I seriously thought Ashley was dead! So a rush to the vet and get told that she has tmy.. tymr..tyra???? the vets is south african and I can't understand him that well. He wrote it down and I can't read his writing anyone know what I could be talking about? He told me the signs to look for in the other guys, pretty stock standard, breathing issues, messy vent, discharge around the cere. So yeah... he then gives me Doxycycline Hydrochloride and told that ALL my birds even the guys in the avairy should be on it. So I get home and examine the other two that where in with Ashley. The other grey hen looks like she is fading as well but not as bad as Ashley. Kadaj is showing signs of becoming ill and so are the other boys also in Quarantine... I don't get it there where no where near each other but this illness hits them hard and fast however can incubate for up to 2 months. Vet says that she had it when I got her most likely and since MB also lost birds from the same breeder with the same symptoms then I am guessing that it's from that. I split Kadaj into a sperate cage as he came from a different breeder and his signs of illness are not as bad as the others, same with the boys so everyone is split up, everyone is on meds... no one is allowed veggies for the next 15 days... argh MB I am going to have to eat all the veggies I bought! Do you want me to make you more beet water? I am so tired and nothing is going right with the Budgies and I keep having to throw money at them cause of sickness and it is depressing.... I am starting to feel like the gods are against me or are telling me that maybe I should not have Budgies!

SW I am with you but cause I have had a few birds coming and going in the past few weeks and she is an older hen we are on the better safe then sorry side.

Ouch! The vet recommended it, I have a bird that has the dredded "p" word! They are not in the same room etc... so to be on the safe side 5 days of Triple C as recommended by my local avairan vet. I then have to give her a mix of veggies and protien to re balance her internals. To tell you the truth it's going to take a week for the Triple C to get here so I think unless she does it again before then I might not bother with it.

She seems fine now. Let her out for a fly around and today I came home for luch and snapped this video of them Which has nothing to be with the falling off of a perch but is cute :glare: Rang the vet and he said to up her vitiams and keep and eye on her but more likey she just had an unco moment.

So it was time for all my guys to get de mited so I went around with an eye dropper and a bottle of Ivermectin. I did the avairy guys as soon as I got home in torch light, *not to self next time do it a day early or wait till the weekend* anyone ever play "find the Budgie in the dark" game because yeah a world of fun not! So did the other guys had a shower then did the guys in the study. I sat down and buddy was roaming around on my desk like normal, when he comes over to see what the strange item is and knocks a full bottle of ivermectin all over my desk and me! the funny think was the look on his face, he backed away from the mess, rested on one foot and stuck the other one out kung fu panda style, with a look of OH MY GOD MUMMY THAT IS SO NOT COOL.... :glare: I didn't know if I should laugh cry or scream! So another shower and a clean up and I am done for the night!

So true, we don't have an problem everyone else has the problem with not understanding why we have so many budgies!

My guys have been doing this for about an hour and it is driving my sister nuts but I just sort of tune it out It seems louder when they are right next to you talking to the guys in the other room. Seems so quiet on the video!

Bad Bunny!

Oh Oh Oh What is he, where are the pictures!!!! Arghhh don't do this to me! :glare: